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10-26-2020, 05:08 PM
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Toggin’ it
Getting late for stripers, so went for togs. Did pretty well; seven keepers with my bud. Used Joe Baggs Orange togzilla jigs. Had one on next to a bare hook. Every fish on the bare hook was a short; every keeper came on a jig. Sure get a thumbs up here! So did anyone else catch anything?
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10-26-2020, 06:44 PM
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Location: Cape Cod
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10-26-2020, 09:32 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hq2
Getting late for stripers, so went for togs. Did pretty well; seven keepers with my bud. Used Joe Baggs Orange togzilla jigs. Had one on next to a bare hook. Every fish on the bare hook was a short; every keeper came on a jig. Sure get a thumbs up here! So did anyone else catch anything?
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Stocked trout... boring.
That's a key piece of advise about jig/ keeper ratio.
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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10-27-2020, 06:25 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Not a big fan of the jig, when I was using it (With bait) I tied a short leader tied to the hook with a treble hook , not many missed fish but it tore them up so I stopped,,, but it worked !
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10-27-2020, 01:54 PM
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#5
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,617
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guppy
Not a big fan of the jig, when I was using it (With bait) I tied a short leader tied to the hook with a treble hook , not many missed fish but it tore them up so I stopped,,, but it worked !
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You know how simple and effective and inexpensive my go to is 
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10-27-2020, 04:40 PM
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#6
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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Bob , do you tip it with bait ???
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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10-27-2020, 05:04 PM
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#7
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
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Originally Posted by Clammer
Bob , do you tip it with bait ???
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Off the braid and swivel, I run 40# seagar to a 6/0 gamakatsu octopus hook. I tie 30# mono directly to the hook eye, then form a loop in the mono close to the hook, usually no more than a couple inches away. Gives me easy weight changes, easy handle to land fish without a net, unless they are togzillas. The crab sitting just off the bottom allows me to more easily feel when the tog has tasted and decided to move off with his snack. Simple, inexpensive and I’ve found out fishes anything I’ve tried, including the latest jig craze. Usually cut the larger crabs in half, if small they go on the hook whole with corner cut to let the juices flow.
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10-27-2020, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
You know how simple and effective and inexpensive my go to is 
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Yes I do....
But I’m still using double hooks a little below the sinker.... I can feel them lookin at the bait... LOL
Last edited by Guppy; 10-29-2020 at 04:20 PM..
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10-29-2020, 04:21 PM
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Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guppy
Yes I do....
But I’m still using double hooks a little below the sinker.... I can feel them lookin at the bait... LOL
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10-27-2020, 07:16 AM
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#10
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Join Date: May 2003
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I should have pointed out that I did have crabs on obviously. Used the Joe Baggs green togzilla jig too, and did NOT catch anything, for the second time.
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10-27-2020, 10:28 AM
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#11
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,295
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just got back from about 2 hours of tog fishing. About 6 fish 17" and lots more shorts so no keepers.
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10-31-2020, 09:20 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: CT
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Probably had my best togging day ever today. Cold start 25 at the ramp in the dark, even my outboard said I don't know about this.
I like the tog jigs too. I recently switched to using the Magictails jig because it has a wide flat bottom and it holds the crab up well. I'm running pp super slick version2 in smoke grey to a 40lb mono leader which I tie as a dropper loop. On the bottom I have the jig and 8" up Im using a 3/0 gami baitholder hook. It is very important how the crabs get hooked.
On the 3/0 gami the crab has to be small (1/2 dollar) size or a medium crab cut and hooked between the rear legs (all removed) and coming back out between the top of the shell and the tail. This hook is small enough that the blackfish suck it right in no problem.
On the jig, which I consider my workhorse, I hook the crab 2 ways. 1. Same as above.
2. Medium to small crabs I also push the hook up thru the tail near the rear of the crab and right up thru the shell. The crab kinda gets wedged at the bend of the hook, I use this when I know there are larger fish but the smaller ones can't pull it off.
All day today on either tide the fish were switching their preference as to top or bottom.
I somehow managed to land two tog one 6 & one 7 lbs on this rig today. I thought I had a beast but it was just two solid fish.
The best part about the jigs is that they are super forgiving with the bottom even in a boulder field. A crossing current maybe not so much but upstream or down it can search around the boat to fish a larger piece than the swing of your anchor line. Let the current walk your jig down a drop-off, the thin diameter of the pp ss cuts the water and keeps the feedback coming from the jig to your hands nicely.
Such a cool fish.
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11-01-2020, 08:21 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
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I used a rig like in Ray's photo but just 1 hook 2 it would tangle a lot. The other modification was I used a kale hook,, which gave me better better hook set.
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11-01-2020, 09:58 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guppy
Frozen deck to start off yesterday and a terrible bite,,, thinking all the big wind from previous days murked things up....
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Today much better
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That is about as good a catch as possible.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-01-2020, 11:00 AM
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#16
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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perfect shape on the oysters >< over the counter shape
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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11-05-2020, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Can you still get tog in buzz bay this time of year or am I better heading out front maybe even in a state to our south
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11-05-2020, 10:02 PM
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#18
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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 ... for another month if you're willing.
and then go a little South, and you can still pick some up close to Christmas...
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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11-06-2020, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Thanks bloo
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11-09-2020, 06:17 AM
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#20
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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Higgie, ...2 of us landed close to 100 fish yesterday until the tide shut the bite down...BB. Was like peace-work for a couple of hours straight...
Soft Asian-crabs left little room for error when setting the hook,...with cut green crabs catching the larger fish..Albeit we only boxed 5 keepers. My bait of choice will always be the female green crab, (which is actually orange bottomed)
So get out there, still plenty of action to be had....saw birds working surface fish too, but I wasn't playing the anchor game with such a steady bite going on.
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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11-09-2020, 02:19 PM
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#21
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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Hit it again this AM....closer to Clamma, but ddeeeeeeeeeeeeeepp
Again, incredible numbers....much larger fish too.
Ran out of asians, but the frozen green crabs were still knockin' em dead!! 
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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11-09-2020, 03:09 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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don,t care to use Asians out front
still 18 to 20' yesterday … just very little sea bass ……………………….. crashed today ….trouble making two in ROW ><>
WATCHED SOME RUN & GUN YESTERDAY // FU CKIN NUT S 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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11-09-2020, 04:15 PM
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User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bloocrab
Hit it again this AM....closer to Clamma, but ddeeeeeeeeeeeeeepp
Again, incredible numbers....much larger fish too.
Ran out of asians, but the frozen green crabs were still knockin' em dead!! 
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WOW
went with Niko today out of NB,,,, headed south to 5 spots along the way ,,, worst day ever for this time of month... not even the onslot of smalls.... really strange....
Could it be Earthquake!
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11-09-2020, 06:35 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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Ray … they were all caught over the weekend …………..it looked like the July 4th 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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11-09-2020, 08:23 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: East Prov RI
Posts: 1,501
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guppy
WOW
went with Niko today out of NB,,,, headed south to 5 spots along the way ,,, worst day ever for this time of month... not even the onslot of smalls.... really strange....
Could it be Earthquake!
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Went rec out Newport area, only fished for a cpl hours did well, released a cpl dd.
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11-10-2020, 05:58 AM
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bloocrab
Higgie, ...2 of us landed close to 100 fish yesterday until the tide shut the bite down...BB. Was like peace-work for a couple of hours straight...
Soft Asian-crabs left little room for error when setting the hook,...with cut green crabs catching the larger fish..Albeit we only boxed 5 keepers. My bait of choice will always be the female green
crab, (which is actually orange bottomed)
So get out there, still plenty of action to be had....saw birds working surface fish too, but I wasn't playing the anchor game with such a steady bite going on.
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I went out of wareham Saturday for a few hours not a sniff. I’m thinking I may have needed to be a little deeper. Hit some spots I’ve got tog in in the spring while seabass fishing. Hope to get out again it’s been to nice to put the boat away. Got a bunch of oysters tho and couldn’t beat the weather so wasn’t a total loss
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It would be raining soup, and id be be standing outside with a fork
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11-10-2020, 06:56 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgie
I went out of wareham Saturday for a few hours not a sniff. I’m thinking I may have needed to be a little deeper. Hit some spots I’ve got tog in in the spring while seabass fishing. Hope to get out again it’s been to nice to put the boat away. Got a bunch of oysters tho and couldn’t beat the weather so wasn’t a total loss
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We were between 25 - 35' when out in BB, but over 60' yesterday in RI
My spring spots become vacant this time of year, I don't even bother
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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11-10-2020, 07:06 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bloocrab
We were between 25 - 35' when out in BB, but over 60' yesterday in RI
My spring spots become vacant this time of year, I don't even bother
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90-100ft over the weekend, and had a decent chew going.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-10-2020, 09:35 PM
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#29
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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https://www.flseagrant.org/fisheries/venting/
Good info on venting. Not ideal, but better than certain death.
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11-10-2020, 09:37 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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why go deep until you have too ???????
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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