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Boat Fishing & Boating A new forum at Striped-Bass.com for those fishing from boats and for boating in general |
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11-21-2006, 06:24 PM
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#91
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Mike - if you are going to encapsulate the whole piece with cloth & resin and the ply is securely attached to the frame and coated, it will be strong as using pine for a brace. I am assuming that you are going to completely cover all your wood with glass on both sides. The cloth will add strength to the understructure.
The sketches you provided are great. What drawing or CAD system are you using? 
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11-21-2006, 06:43 PM
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#92
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
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no CAD system, pencil and paper.
the fiberglass won't stick at all to the presure treated at all. 
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11-21-2006, 08:23 PM
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#93
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DDG-51
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Looking Good Freak,  impressive to say the least. Keep the pics coming I'm enjoying the hell out of this thread. 
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11-21-2006, 09:19 PM
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#94
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
no CAD system, pencil and paper.
the fiberglass won't stick at all to the presure treated at all. 
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I was going to offer my design services but you're more talented than I
I see you already found out about PT not good with resins... Don't know much about that but the CS guys are pretty confident that it won't work
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11-21-2006, 09:32 PM
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#95
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lobster = striper bait
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ditch the PT
get marine plywood.
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11-22-2006, 08:48 AM
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#96
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You could laminate 3 pieces of 1/2" ply or 2 3/4's to get that 1 1/2. If on a budget you really don't need to get the more expensive marine or okume pylwood for that purpose. AC plywood will work just fine for that particular application.
When it comes to doing the cockpit floor which will be glassed over, many of the guys I know use MDO.
For more "important" and structural parts of the boat use the good stuff.
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11-22-2006, 04:06 PM
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#97
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Location: West Wareham
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FF I have some pretty big pieces of leftover 3/4 marine ply and some CDX 3/4 smooth on one side if ya want it
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11-22-2006, 05:34 PM
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#98
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"Fishbucket"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vectorfisher
FF I have some pretty big pieces of leftover 3/4 marine ply and some CDX 3/4 smooth on one side if ya want it
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yeah i'll take it. i have to go pick up the bench seat in cohaset possibly friday i could swing bye then.
i've since laminated two pieces of plywood together to replace the presure treated. huge difference in strength with the plywood, plus it really soaks up the resin.
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11-22-2006, 05:48 PM
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#99
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For more "important" and structural parts of the boat use the good stuff.[/QUOTE]
This is good advice Mike!!!
Don't go the cheap way out!!!
You need to make that boat good and safe for as much time that I plan to spend on it ! 
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LETS GO BRANDON
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11-23-2006, 10:18 PM
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#100
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"Fishbucket"
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ok here's what i did.
got rid of the presure treated.
laminated two pieces of plywood together with resin then cut to shape.
then i used mohogany boards with okoume plywood in the middle. all resined together and clamped and screwed. the center one is triple thick. i figgured to support a small pulpet.
still mocking stuff up with cheapo pine as i have a habit of screwing stuff up.
almost ready to glass these supports in permanantly.

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11-23-2006, 11:42 PM
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#101
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Mike - you are a craftsman. Looks real good from the photos. I think you added mucho strength to the structure by slipping the braces over the existing glass. Your transition inside as well as out will be real smooth.
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11-24-2006, 07:37 AM
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#102
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damn dude
holy leftover turkey... lol
you should be workin at a boat yard........
or be running freaks boat shop or sumthin...
because you are way off the charts man...
for a do it yourselfer... your using rocket fuel.
very impressive.... 
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11-24-2006, 09:03 AM
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#103
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awesome work, you crankin dude
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11-24-2006, 05:46 PM
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#104
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Mike did you mention pulpit?? I have a teak pulpit that someone stuck on the front of my SC it's all yours
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11-24-2006, 06:25 PM
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#105
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Location: Ashburnham, Ma.
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Wow!
Thats a really cool project! 
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11-24-2006, 07:50 PM
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#106
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Take a Kid Fishing
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Mike's kid was too cool when he came for the bench today. He'll rember your project for ever...
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11-24-2006, 10:50 PM
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#107
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"Fishbucket"
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11-24-2006, 10:59 PM
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#108
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Looking good Mike!
You're one sick puppy...I mean that in a good way..
Have fun..Can't wait to see the finished product. 
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11-24-2006, 11:10 PM
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#109
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[QUOTE=thefishingfreak;436160]
the last pic is just a test overnight. i'm gunna see if liquid nails will hold the wood to the glass hull just enough so i can lay the heavy mat over it. filling the huge gap with resin looked like a very messy job.
Looks great Mike
don't use liquid nails to fill that gap
use thickened resin peanut butter consistency, mix wood flour with resin to make the paste.
also be sure to sand off all paint and gelcoat, clean surfaces well for best adhesion.
you been busy
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11-24-2006, 11:13 PM
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#110
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"Fishbucket"
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wood flour, i'll try that
i been putting sawdust in it but it just makes it lumpy. 
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11-25-2006, 08:38 AM
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#111
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Look at that, yesterday you couldn't even spell Boat Builder, today you is one. Great looking job!!!
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11-25-2006, 04:29 PM
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#112
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Mike West Systems 406 is a good product to use for thickening epoxy, there's also cabosil, milled fibers. US Composites in Springfield is the guy you want to talk with he can get you what you need and has great prices too!
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11-26-2006, 04:12 PM
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#113
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
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all glassed in. the wood flour worked great.
so did the liquid nails, as i could not get that one off.
3 layers of heavy mat.

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11-26-2006, 08:05 PM
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#114
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its gonna take shape real fast. looking good
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12-02-2006, 11:16 PM
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#115
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"Fishbucket"
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plugin along.

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12-02-2006, 11:37 PM
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#116
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Your a freak, were are all the Buds
VB
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12-02-2006, 11:41 PM
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#117
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vineyardblues
Your a freak, were are all the Buds
VB
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no buds.
O'doules and root beer. 
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12-03-2006, 06:12 AM
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#118
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Fishing Chauffeur
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: raynham mass
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You need
To throw a boat building party for some wood workers knock a lot of that out in a day Hmmm free beer and cook out Ill bet you get some help maybe not work but a lot of good chat!
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12-07-2006, 02:25 PM
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#119
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What was that!?!
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what gives??? no pics for the past 5 days???  opcorn:
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12-07-2006, 02:34 PM
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#120
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i love the smell of resin in the morning. 
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