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Old 12-12-2006, 09:45 AM   #1
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I'll usually judge a guitarist by his knowledge of chords more than how loud and fast he can play. Don't get me wrong I like loud fast music but not everyone can do both. Listening to Tony Rice play chords on his Martin or Steve Morse with the Dregs is what floats my boat. It all depends what mood I am in. One day I like Ozzy next I'm listening to Harry Connick JR. There are just way too variables in styles to have a best. I like them all, well except Joan Jett. Very interesting listening to what different people listen too. Funny that we all like music but are turned off by certain things others like. Not a bad thing, just interesting.

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Old 12-12-2006, 10:03 AM   #2
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RIJIMMY My taste's have changed a lot over the years. I love jazz and I'd say 50% of my music I listen to now is Jazz. I am also on a Bluegrass and Celtic kick too the last several years. There is so much good music out there that is just overlooked by so many of the younger people because they are not exposed to it. I have a 6 year old that is taking piano lessons and I try to expose her to many different types of music so she can form a well rounded knowledge, with a emphasis on reading music. Reading opens so many doors in music. I wish I had learned. I think I prefer any music that combines different types or styles into their sound. The possibilities are endless. Joe Pass is really about as good as it gets when you talk about jazz guitar IMO.

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Nobody mentioned Ronnie Montrose....another great Guitarist

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Old 12-14-2006, 09:27 PM   #4
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:30 PM   #5
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Sammy Hagar when he was about 17.
I actually bought that tape.
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:40 PM   #6
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sok, I still got that one on vinyl, buried in the back of the closet with all the other LP's

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Different = Stanley Jordan, how about Vince Gill the guy can play. Loud and fast Frank Marino. Woman Emily Remler. I mean if you really sit down and think of it you can come up with 100's of individuals' that can play the crap out of the instrument. I wish one was me. I gave up guitar 10 years ago. I have 2 Les Pauls, a Strat, and several acoustics just sitting in cases in my upstairs room that haven't been opened in years. My daughter doesn't know how lucky she will be if she wants to play guitar in the future. I'd rather listen to music than play it .

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And, as Im sure you know, Frank Z is one of the cooooolest players ever, noone sounds like him.

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Yup, but not for the masses. Not just a good player but his writing is what set's him apart. Lots of variety in his stuff. BF Larry's favorite Band

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For pure technical skill most jazz players will have the edge. Even more so for drums than guitar.

But in the rock guitarists it's the entire performance that counts.

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Old 12-12-2006, 11:04 AM   #11
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Cast another vote for deaner from the Bombas. Young Mike and I readily progniosticate to him.
Last time I saw those guys was the day before I sold my marital house. They played for like three hours!!!
Maybe the best show I've ever seen, which says a lot beacuse I really only like punk and metal.
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:56 PM   #12
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Cast another vote for deaner from the Bombas. Young Mike and I readily progniosticate to him.
Last time I saw those guys was the day before I sold my marital house. They played for like three hours!!!
Maybe the best show I've ever seen, which says a lot beacuse I really only like punk and metal.
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PS-I ate a pizza next to Dean and Gene after work one night in Jersey, had no idea it was them. Realized afterwards that I was like 5 miles from where they recorded "The Pod."
See BF... you have no idea what you are missing.

See them live and you will never feel the same about music again.

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Old 12-13-2006, 07:15 PM   #13
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You can keep him all to yourself....sucks IMO!

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Ok, a few more...this thread must not die...
I was thinking of RIR original intenet of this post last night and thought of two guitarists that, every time I have heard them, I was impressed with the solos, both style and originallity. I also think they both did not make the lists posted here because of the same reason....
1. Peter Frampton - the live stuff from Frampton comes alive, is excellent guitar playing. Style wise, he is a few notches above many of his 70's contemporaries, and yes, I mean a lot of the BIG 70's guitar names. Listen next time its on the radio, he does not play alot of the same "blues" based lines most other players do.
2. Neil Schon, from Journey. I think his playing is fantastic. The first few Journey albums were almost progressive rock and Schon plays some blistering leads. Even when Journey went lame, he still played very lyrical and tasteful solos. Great player IMHO.

Why do I think they are overlooked and underrated? Becasue of the "girl" appeal. Frampton was not taken seriously after his teeny bopper appeal. And Journey became a lame ballad teen age girl band. Both of these guys are great guitar players, very unique styles, technical and tasteful.....

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Old 12-13-2006, 08:05 PM   #15
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Ok, a few more...this thread must not die...
I was thinking of RIR original intenet of this post last night and thought of two guitarists that, every time I have heard them, I was impressed with the solos, both style and originallity. I also think they both did not make the lists posted here because of the same reason....
1. Peter Frampton - the live stuff from Frampton comes alive, is excellent guitar playing. Style wise, he is a few notches above many of his 70's contemporaries, and yes, I mean a lot of the BIG 70's guitar names. Listen next time its on the radio, he does not play alot of the same "blues" based lines most other players do.
2. Neil Schon, from Journey. I think his playing is fantastic. The first few Journey albums were almost progressive rock and Schon plays some blistering leads. Even when Journey went lame, he still played very lyrical and tasteful solos. Great player IMHO.

Why do I think they are overlooked and underrated? Becasue of the "girl" appeal. Frampton was not taken seriously after his teeny bopper appeal. And Journey became a lame ballad teen age girl band. Both of these guys are great guitar players, very unique styles, technical and tasteful.....


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Schon was a child protege if I am not mistaken. well schooled in the instument. Good answer.

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Old 12-13-2006, 06:25 PM   #17
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Schon

Yes, RI J! Great name! As far as under- rated specifically, Schon is among the top of that list. Forget later/ commercial Journey. Do yourself a favor-- if you love/ appreciate great "heavy metal" Guitar skills, get the first few Journy albums (pre- S. Perry)... and I guarantee you Neil's playing will blow you away.

Equally under-rated, but still great (that "R.S. Top- 100 List" was a total joke! Retarded! ):

Dave Mason/ Chris Wood (both!), from Traffic/ solo; Dave Davies/ Kinks; Santana; Tom Sholz from Boston-- agreed John. R.!... Randy Rhodes (he's NOT the "best Heavy Metal" guitarist ever?? Tony I. is ??) ... Gary Ritchrath from REO Speedwagon (yes, the early stuff!!)... Neil Geraldo/ Pat Benatar's band (1st three albums)... Blackmore yes... Beck is almost forgotten... Steve Howe no one even mentioned? Anyone ever hear of Martin Barre? (Jethro Tull-- awesome guitarist!)... the Cars Elliot Easton was under- rated (though not "great")...

I can go on, but won't!... As said, of course here re. music to each his own!
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:17 PM   #18
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:34 AM   #19
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M.Barre Dave Mason's version of All Along The Watchtower is the best I have heard, plays one of the best Wha Wha's on Shouldn't of took more than you gave too.

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:05 PM   #20
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Here is one for Bigfish

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:12 PM   #21
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Here is a real underrated guy. A Barry Manilow look a like I know but he is awesome. Not Alvin Lee but Albert Lee. I know even Larry will like him as he has backed up Clapton on many of his tours. The guy's style is clean and fast. I just love his pickin. P


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Another one. Hope it is not too country for you but his playing is fantastic. Barry Manilow or what??


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My #1 vote on the underrated list . Just way too bad the guy took his own life because he is one of the all time best. Plays jazz, country, blues, studio work you name it he can do it. Funny his blues sound had a little of the Telley Roy Bucanhan sound and Roy killed himself too. Way better than Roy though IMO. Enjoy.


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Old 12-14-2006, 12:31 PM   #24
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:38 PM   #25
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I have way too much time on my hands. Here is another. IMO one of the best acoustic players and flatpickers out there. A bluegrass player. Tony Rice. What a sound .

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:48 PM   #26
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Damn who got me into this U-Tube thing. I 'm goin crazy now. What do you think of Bela Fleck not a guitarist but he could if he wanted. Early New Grass Revival


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i love belafleck- victor wooten's solo bass playing is out of this world
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Yup. He auditioned for Bela over the phone and was hired.

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Yup. He auditioned for Bela over the phone and was hired.
I had a great conversation with Vic Wooten one night. Amazingly enough we spent it all talking about computer graphics

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