What another conspiracy theory debunked

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Your regular reminder that, by law, the DNI is supposed to be a career Intelligence Community civil servant.

Would you cite this law? I could only find that he is appointed by the President with the confirmation of the Senate. Which is what happened.

The current DNI is a partisan hack who has never worked a day in the Intelligence Community.

From what is being exposed about the intelligence community, it appears to have been a sort of corrupt swamp at the top.

Trump was impeached for abusing his office to slime Joe Biden. And, what, exactly is Trump, with an assist from DNI Ratcliffe, Fox News, and others, doing RIGHT NOW? Oh.

Oh. Sliming a politician is what politicians always do. That's not what he was impeached for. You keep making stuff up.

And what are the leftist press and social media doing RIGHT NOW? Oh . . . what they always do . . . attempt to mock,"debunk," suppress and destroy information that hurts their guy.

[Pete F.]

Google is easy

50 U.S.C. § 403-3a
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Oh. Sliming a politician is what politicians always do. That's not what he was impeached for. You keep making stuff up.

And what are the leftist press and social media doing RIGHT NOW? Oh . . . what they always do . . . attempt to mock,"debunk," suppress and destroy information that hurts their guy.

1. The fact that the DNI is abusing all instruments of his power and serving as a trump campaign surrogate is a metaphor for how Trump has treated intelligence from day 1: as PR material.

That’s not just un-intelligent it’s dangerous.

2. Why you may ask? Well for starters we have no reason to believe that the DNI is forthcoming about threats / assessments that don’t jibe w Trump’s political needs. Censoring intel to assuage Trump’s ego means policy makers and the public may not get a full picture.

3. Plus he has trumped up material that suits Trump’s TPs - even when it should have a Russian warning label attached.

4. Collection priorities may be skewed toward what Trump needs for his campaign machine vs what we need to keep us safe

5. And assessments that don’t match Trump’s spin machines needs may be censored or neutered.

6. The DNI talking about politics is just a signal to the world that all “intel” has a political filter permanently applied under this President.

7. Our intel partners probably don’t trust Ratcliffe bc he’s looks like Trump’s political errand boy - they won’t want to put their own sources and methods at Risk

8. Our adversaries likely think if they can put out “Intel” that suits Trumps campaign needs Ratcliffe will release it / elevate it even if it’s part of a disinfo attack

9. This gross politicization of intel could turn off qualified Americans from applying to serve in the IC. And it could lead existing IC personnel to leave.

10. It appears that Ratcliffe doesn’t care about the adverse effects he’s having on our country’s security.

11. How unpatriotic can you get?

12. A DNI should not be using the media to do the President's political errands.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

1. The fact that the DNI is abusing all instruments of his power and serving as a trump campaign surrogate is a metaphor for how Trump has treated intelligence from day 1: as PR material.

That’s not just un-intelligent it’s dangerous.

2. Why you may ask? Well for starters we have no reason to believe that the DNI is forthcoming about threats / assessments that don’t jibe w Trump’s political needs. Censoring intel to assuage Trump’s ego means policy makers and the public may not get a full picture.

3. Plus he has trumped up material that suits Trump’s TPs - even when it should have a Russian warning label attached.

4. Collection priorities may be skewed toward what Trump needs for his campaign machine vs what we need to keep us safe

5. And assessments that don’t match Trump’s spin machines needs may be censored or neutered.

6. The DNI talking about politics is just a signal to the world that all “intel” has a political filter permanently applied under this President.

7. Our intel partners probably don’t trust Ratcliffe bc he’s looks like Trump’s political errand boy - they won’t want to put their own sources and methods at Risk

8. Our adversaries likely think if they can put out “Intel” that suits Trumps campaign needs Ratcliffe will release it / elevate it even if it’s part of a disinfo attack

9. This gross politicization of intel could turn off qualified Americans from applying to serve in the IC. And it could lead existing IC personnel to leave.

10. It appears that Ratcliffe doesn’t care about the adverse effects he’s having on our country’s security.

11. How unpatriotic can you get?

12. A DNI should not be using the media to do the President's political errands.

This is all your piled on conjecture and accusation.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

He said the laptop is “in the jurisdiction of the FBI” and the Bureau’s investigation “is not centered around Russian disinformation and the intelligence community is not playing any role with respect to that.”

Why would the DNI be answering questions about the FBI that the FBI wouldn't even answer?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Why would the DNI be answering questions about the FBI that the FBI wouldn't even answer?

The FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence. What question are you referring to?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Google is easy

50 U.S.C. § 403-3a

That doesn't say, as you claimed, that he must be a "career Intelligence Community civil servant." It does say he should have extensive intelligence experience, which he doesn't seem to have, but the Senate was satisfied that he did. In any event, he would know what the intel says about the emails.

[Pete F.]

The Trumplican Senate confirmed him, afraid of San angry tweet from the head victim.
Notice that they are now starting to claim they secretly disagreed with him.
Worse than rats
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The Trumplican Senate confirmed him, afraid of San angry tweet from the head victim.
Notice that they are now starting to claim they secretly disagreed with him.
Worse than rats
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if the democrats and the media had evidence it was a russian plot, that would prove that the head of NI is lying. so what aren’t any of them sharing any of the evidence?

here’s biden spokesperson saying that no one on the campaign is saying the emails are inauthentic. the campaign doesn’t have to say that. democrats and the media are saying it for them.


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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the democrats and the media had evidence it was a russian plot, that would prove that the head of NI is lying. so what aren’t any of them sharing any of the evidence?

here’s biden spokesperson saying that no one on the campaign is saying the emails are inauthentic. the campaign doesn’t have to say that. democrats and the media are saying it for them.

Again, they use the "just say it" method. Just saying it is the proof. And when you can combine that with the "kill the messenger" ploy, that's a double whammy faux proof.

[Pete F.]

Well emails worked last time, why not try that again
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[Pete F.]

Besides, this is the reality: Tweety has lost all contact with reality. He is consumed by paranoia, rage, fear, and a massive feeling of failure so anything goes.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Besides, this is the reality: Tweety has lost all contact with reality. He is consumed by paranoia, rage, fear, and a massive feeling of failure so anything goes.

Actually, this is more like projection than reality.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Well emails worked last time, why not try that again
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Apparently, there are more coming out soon.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the democrats and the media had evidence it was a russian plot, that would prove that the head of NI is lying. so what aren’t any of them sharing any of the evidence?

here’s biden spokesperson saying that no one on the campaign is saying the emails are inauthentic. the campaign doesn’t have to say that. democrats and the media are saying it for them.


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Classic blame the media.. burden of proof jim you have none and haver never had any.. yet we have lots of proof the man who runs the post gave trump campaign 75mil
We know Giuliani has been feeding Trump with russian supplied info.. seems these emails as well. But i get it by any means nessarary, honor decency respect eithic once were republicans ideals .. not any more i guess what Obama said was spot on they cling to religion ( minus it teachings. You've showedus that. )and guns.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Well emails worked last time, why not try that again
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again, biden’s campaign is t saying it’s not hunters laptop, they aren’t saying the emails aren’t authentic.

does it suggest anything tonyou that the media and elected democrats are saying it’s a russian smear campaign, worth zero evidence?

you whine that we’re saying emails again. no can whine that your side is playing the russia card again, can’t i?

what’s the evidence that this is russian smear?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Classic blame the media.. burden of proof jim you have none and haver never had any.. yet we have lots of proof the man who runs the post gave trump campaign 75mil
We know Giuliani has been feeding Trump with russian supplied info.. seems these emails as well. But i get it by any means nessarary, honor decency respect eithic once were republicans ideals .. not any more i guess what Obama said was spot on they cling to religion ( minus it teachings. You've showedus that. )and guns.
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wayne, are you denying that the media is saying this is a russian hoax? that’s whet they’re saying. and there’s zero evidence. zip.
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[Pete F.]

The problem for the GOP going forward is not Trump. Keep this in mind, a large majority of Trumplicans: don’t believe in evolution, don’t believe in climate change caused by human activity, support a ban on Muslims, and believe Christianity should be America’s national religion.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The problem for the GOP going forward is not Trump. Keep this in mind, a large majority of Trumplicans: don’t believe in evolution, don’t believe in climate change caused by human activity, support a ban on Muslims, and believe Christianity should be America’s national religion.
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i guess that explains why republicans never win any elections.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, are you denying that the media is saying this is a russian hoax? that’s whet they’re saying. and there’s zero evidence. zip.
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Keep the deflection going ... So again you have no issue with Trump suggesting Barr should arrest Biden?

Or Fox News and Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) for suggesting without evidence that a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden contained child pornography.

Like i said they've Republicans and apparently you as well have abandoned any moral high ground and self respect and have gone all in on conspiracy theories its all they have.. 😥
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Like i said they've Republicans and apparently you as well have abandoned any moral high ground

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so are you saying(again?) the republicans and jim...previous to this...occupied the moral high ground?

[Pete F.]

Giuliani: Even if Hunter Laptop Story ‘Isn’t Accurate,’ Americans ‘Are Entitled to Know It’

So when they shout "fake news" at a story, they're really acknowledging that they want in on the action.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Giuliani: Even if Hunter Laptop Story ‘Isn’t Accurate,’ Americans ‘Are Entitled to Know It’

So when they shout "fake news" at a story, they're really acknowledging that they want in on the action.
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Pete, when exactly did you stop beating your wife?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Giuliani: Even if Hunter Laptop Story ‘Isn’t Accurate,’ Americans ‘Are Entitled to Know It’

So when they shout "fake news" at a story, they're really acknowledging that they want in on the action.
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Except no one has offered a speck of evidence that the laptop isn't his. I posted a video of someone from Biden's campaign, and she admitted that the campaign isn't saying the emails are inauthentic.

It was the Russians. Again.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Pete, when exactly did you stop beating your wife?

Again, the Biden campaign has said explicitly, that they aren't denying that the emails are genuine. That means nothing to you?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Pete, when exactly did you stop beating your wife?

equally absurd, why didn't Trump disavow white supremacists at Charlottesville? Unless he's supposed to do it, literally, in every sentence. Because yes, there were specific sentences where he didn't disavow white supremacists. But in his Charlottesville remarks, he disavowed white supremacists very clearly. Years later, the media is still beating that drum.

[Pete F.]

One upshot of impeachment, I think, is that it inoculated a lot of folks to whatever they were trying to do here with the “laptop”

Now tell us about the candidate whose kids stole from cancer victims and vets, also known as suckers and losers
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It was the Russians. Again.

if biden wins...I will get up and get to work the next day...I think a lot of these guys are gonna need a few personal days if trump wins

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Except no one has offered a speck of evidence that the laptop isn't his. I posted a video of someone from Biden's campaign, and she admitted that the campaign isn't saying the emails are inauthentic.

It was the Russians. Again.

Seems why so many intel experts are saying this reeks of a Russian operation. Hack Biden's emails, manipulate whatever you want and then plant them on a random laptop that just happens to be sent in for repair and suddenly exposed.

That you're taking any of this seriously is disturbing Jim.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

if biden wins...I will get up and get to work the next day...I think a lot of these guys are gonna need a few personal days if trump wins

Yup I will have either golf, fish, maybe break out the chain saw and do some carving, or gets some beds or mulch piles turned over with the tiller; won’t miss a beat. Pete however might need therapy he seems to be close to the edge.
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