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Old 10-11-2021, 12:07 PM   #1
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cops kill with impunity? tell
that crap to darren wilson, whose actions were justified in two separate investigations and yet he had to leave the force.

what do you expect to happen when we ask 700,000 police officers to respond to millions and
millions of dangerous situations every year? tragically, mistakes will be made, and some of them will be bad apples who go as far as to commit murder. how do you stop that?

you’re denying that the left is accusing police of being racist assassins, and of routinely engaging in police brutality?
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Yes Jim I am denying your fantasy the left is doing all those thing you are suggesting. It’s a Lie no different than all Tump supporters are all into white supremacy .. it’s a good sound byte but not reality but please keep your head in the sand about police brutality or the militarization of police hasn’t contributed to these issues

Poisoning Our Police: How the Militarization Mindset Threatens Constitutional Rights and Public Safety

The result of this militarization—where local police take on the appearance, armament, and behavior of soldiers at war—is that the public is both less safe and less free.

And your unwillingness to see it as a their behavior as problematic is why it happens . And your few bad apple argument is a cop out no pun intended .

I don’t see you using the a few bad apples argument on Black on Black Crime? Funny how tha


impunity.

exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action.

Seeing you don’t understand what it means in the context of the topic

Here is another.

Qualified immunity is a defense that law enforcement and other government officials can raise in response to lawsuits seeking monetary damages for alleged civil rights violations. ... Critics argue this high bar effectively shields law enforcement from accountability

So please stop looking for questions that have been answered over and over because you don’t like the answers…
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cops kill with impunity? tell
that crap to darren wilson, whose actions were justified in two separate investigations and yet he had to leave the force.

what do you expect to happen when we ask 700,000 police officers to respond to millions and
millions of dangerous situations every year? tragically, mistakes will be made, and some of them will be bad apples who go as far as to commit murder. how do you stop that?

you’re denying that the left is accusing police of being racist assassins, and of routinely engaging in police brutality?
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Yes Jim I am denying your fantasy the left is doing all those thing you are suggesting. It’s a Lie no different than all Tump supporters are all into white supremacy .. it’s a good sound byte but not reality but please keep your head in the sand about police brutality or the militarization of police hasn’t contributed to these issues

Poisoning Our Police: How the Militarization Mindset Threatens Constitutional Rights and Public Safety

The result of this militarization—where local police take on the appearance, armament, and behavior of soldiers at war—is that the public is both less safe and less free.

And your unwillingness to see it as a their behavior as problematic is why it happens . And your few bad apple argument is a cop out no pun intended .

I don’t see you using the a few bad apples argument on Black on Black Crime? Funny how that works


impunity.

exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action.

Seeing you don’t understand what it means in the context of the topic

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Qualified immunity is a defense that law enforcement and other government officials can raise in response to lawsuits seeking monetary damages for alleged civil rights violations. ... Critics argue this high bar effectively shields law enforcement from accountability

So please stop looking for questions that have been answered over and over because you don’t like the answers…
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Jim it's very simple when you have Government or authority Killing Americans with impunity with clear disparities based on race there is a problem . but the bigger problem is its accepted by many

And as for you blacks killing Blacks argument what's worse stop the false equivalencies because in the real world the vast numbers of killing and assaults are committed by you guessed it people of their own race whites on whites black on black hispanic on hispanic and asian on asian..

Maybe the article will open your vision on the Topic.. Because I or others on this site did not write it..


Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/...brutality.html
and you, like the rest of your liberal ilk here, couldn’t just answer the question. what such a simple question has you all frozen like a deer in headlights, doesn’t that say something about how flimsy your beliefs are?

the left is deflecting on this, not me. desperate to avoid people
seeing that their polices have a direct link to gang violence in cities, they blame cops instead. kiss the cop vote good bye.

the police are the one urban institution that actually works, and the left vilifies them, which always leads to dead cops. the left doesn’t care.
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Jim it's very simple when you have Government or authority Killing Americans with impunity with clear disparities based on race there is a problem . but the bigger problem is its accepted by many
this is some incredible stupidity....
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this is some incredible stupidity....
Please let me know how.. I can’t wait
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there are over 700,000 police officers.

If there are only a few bad eggs or apples in the police as you would have us believe
Why can’t the “overwhelming majority” fix it?



maybe if liberals weren’t so opposed to school choice, more blacks wouldn’t be stuck in these horrible cities? and who runs these horrible cities anyway? is conservatism dominating the landscape in these cities like chicago?
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Does Hartford count?

Why do “school choice” advocates never advocate eliminating school district boundaries/funding schools by local property tax and allowing poor, Black students to attend white, wealthy schools in neighboring municipalities? They don’t really want choice, just privatization.
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Does Hartford count?

Why do “school choice” advocates never advocate eliminating school district boundaries/funding schools by local property tax and allowing poor, Black students to attend white, wealthy schools in neighboring municipalities? They don’t really want choice, just privatization.
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Those of you who insisted the Quinnipiac poll was an outlier (Biden job approval 38%) have a stronger case. New CBS poll (50% approval) and Ipsos (48% approval) suggest Biden either was never at 38% or has recovered lost ground.
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Those of you who insisted the Quinnipiac poll was an outlier (Biden job approval 38%) have a stronger case. New CBS poll (50% approval) and Ipsos (48% approval) suggest Biden either was never at 38% or has recovered lost ground.
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And they probably all poll different people sooooo…..
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wayne, one last time. which kills waaay more black victims, white cops or black on black crime.
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wayne, one last time. which kills waaay more black victims, white cops or black on black crime.
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It's an irrelevant question.
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It's an irrelevant question.
Not when Jim gets his needle stuck and Wayne asking Scott for anything other than his one line snarky standard is why this board is just an amusement at times.
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It's an irrelevant question.
only to a huge intellectual
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oh yeah, which is why you ran away and hid under your bed when i asked, you’re a pure intellectual for sure, totally objective and neutral.

still haven’t answered. that’s what an intellectual
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wayne, one last time. which kills waaay more black victims, white cops or black on black crime.
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I take it you didn’t read the story of the link I provided …. It’s clearly answers your question

Here it is again Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/...brutality.html


PS I am not Black nor do I chose to speak for the black community about what issues impact them in a positive or negative way ..

Nor do I try to base my arguments on such a simplistic comparison of who’s the better killer

Not just “a few bad apples”: U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries
Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.

It’s seem you can’t discuss 2 different issues at the same time.. oh well
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I take it you didn’t read the story of the link I provided …. It’s clearly answers your question

Here it is again Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/...brutality.html


PS I am not Black nor do I chose to speak for the black community about what issues impact them in a positive or negative way ..

Nor do I try to base my arguments on such a simplistic comparison of who’s the better killer

Not just “a few bad apples”: U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries
Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.

It’s seem you can’t discuss 2 different issues at the same time.. oh well
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i can discuss two issues, we can talk about actual police brutality. but you refuse to talk about black on black crime, even though it claims a thousand times more black lives than white cops.

you’re the one who can’t discuss two things. not me.
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i can discuss two issues, we can talk about actual police brutality. but you refuse to talk about black on black crime, even though it claims a thousand times more black lives than white cops.

you’re the one who can’t discuss two things. not me.
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Jim when you use your black on black crime line to distract from talking about police brutality.

It’s like making sugar cookies then throwing in a handful of chocolate chips .. and saying I didn’t change anything it’s still a cookie

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It’s like making sugar cookies then throwing in a handful of chocolate chips .. and saying I didn’t change anything it’s still a cookie

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this sounds racist
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Jim when you use your black on black crime line to distract from talking about police brutality.

It’s like making sugar cookies then throwing in a handful of chocolate chips .. and saying I didn’t change anything it’s still a cookie

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i’m not mentioning black on black crime to deflect away from the police. people
with IQs above 65 can think about two things at once. im sorry if you don’t fall into that category.

but we can prioritize.

i mention black on black crime ( and the fact that the left refuses to discuss it) to prove that the left doesn’t really care about black lives. the left is only interested in black deaths which help them win elections, and only deaths at the hands of white cops ( a minuscule percentage of black homicide victims) help
democrats win elections.

Democrats want blacks to stay right where they are. in the cities, in huge numbers, completely dependent on government to survive, with no hope of large scale upward economic mobility. because democrats are afraid if they all
move into the middle class, they’ll vote republican. democrats have replaced 1830s plantations with today’s failing cities. and any black who dares wander off the reservation to identify as a republican, s branded an uncle tom sellout. try making that wrong.

Thats why democrats like all you here, refuse to talk about black on black crime, and things like fatherlessness, which is by far the first thing that needs to be addressed. it’s why you’re all opposed to school choice, despite referring to yourself as pro choice, an idiotic title to bestie upon yourselves. you desperately want them to fail to thrive, so they can remain a reliable
voting block.

liberals see what’s going on in the cities today, and conclude blacks need more of the same. conservatives look at what’s going on in the cities and say that what we’re doing isn’t working, these people deserve better. which is obviously why we advocate for school choice.
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Of course, some would say we should be able to solve more than one problem at a time.

Location matters when it comes to police killings, both in U.S. states and around the world. Black persons in Oklahoma are six times more likely to be killed by police than those in Georgia. Additionally, eight of the 100 largest police departments in the United States kill black men at higher rates than the U.S. murder rate. These departments are Reno, Oklahoma City, Santa Ana, Anaheim, St. Louis City, Scottsdale, Hialeah, and Madison.

The United States, however, does not have the highest number of police killings or the highest rate of police killings per 10 million people. The United States has the fifth-highest number of police killings and the 30th-highest police killing rate per 10 million people.
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Of course, some would say we should be able to solve more than one problem at a time.

Location matters when it comes to police killings, both in U.S. states and around the world. Black persons in Oklahoma are six times more likely to be killed by police than those in Georgia. Additionally, eight of the 100 largest police departments in the United States kill black men at higher rates than the U.S. murder rate. These departments are Reno, Oklahoma City, Santa Ana, Anaheim, St. Louis City, Scottsdale, Hialeah, and Madison.

The United States, however, does not have the highest number of police killings or the highest rate of police killings per 10 million people. The United States has the fifth-highest number of police killings and the 30th-highest police killing rate per 10 million people.
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hey pete,

do you have any statistics that show what percentage of the population who comply with the police during encounters get injured or shot?
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CNN just released a new poll showing Biden at 50% approval too. The key question is: will the news media change their narrative that Biden's ratings are plummeting?
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CNN just released a new poll showing Biden at 50% approval too. The key question is: will the news media change their narrative that Biden's ratings are plummeting?
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and if CNN wasn’t so right wing, they’d be reporting that Biden’s approval ratings are closer to 80%.

sounds like you’ve got nothing to worry about Pete. Everyone loves how Biden is handling the southern border, the withdrawal
from Afghanistan literally could not have gone any better even if Sun Tzu had planned it, oil
prices are plummeting, inflation is at 0, Biden’s brain is clearly sharp as a tack, everyone has full
confidence in Kamala Harris who didn’t humiliate herself even a little bit with a cringeworthy video where she was surrounded by child actors because she knows she can’t relate to actual kids, crime in cities has disappeared, and everyone us fleeing Florida and Texas to move to California and Connecticut. It’s all going your way.
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and if CNN wasn’t so right wing, they’d be reporting that Biden’s approval ratings are closer to 80%.

sounds like you’ve got nothing to worry about Pete. Everyone loves how Biden is handling the southern border, the withdrawal
from Afghanistan literally could not have gone any better even if Sun Tzu had planned it, oil
prices are plummeting, inflation is at 0, Biden’s brain is clearly sharp as a tack, everyone has full
confidence in Kamala Harris who didn’t humiliate herself even a little bit with a cringeworthy video where she was surrounded by child actors because she knows she can’t relate to actual kids, crime in cities has disappeared, and everyone us fleeing Florida and Texas to move to California and Connecticut. It’s all going your way.
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Well, at least you’ve moved on from but her emails

Just repeat what the Trumplican machine says like a good little puppet.
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Well, at least you’ve moved on from but her emails

Just repeat what the Trumplican machine says like a good little puppet.
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My 10 year old could read your posts, and know that you're a small, terrified little man who is desperately trying to convince himself of something that even he knows isn't true. People who are confident in their beliefs, don't behave remotely like the way you do.

Bitch slapped.
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Isn't everything I said true?

In addition, the capital police officer WAS beaten to death with a fire extinguisher, Warren never once profited from a foreclosure, and teachers union contracts don't guarantee that lazy gym teachers make the same salary as dedicated science teachers if they have the same number of years experience and credentials.

You said those things. You know how many times you admitted that you were wrong? Zero. Only conservatives can be wrong. Which is why you admitted there are zero actual liberal policies that you disagree with. Not a one. But you're a very serious intellectual, according to you.
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Isn't everything I said true?
No.

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In addition, the capital police officer WAS beaten to death with a fire extinguisher, Warren never once profited from a foreclosure, and teachers union contracts don't guarantee that lazy gym teachers make the same salary as dedicated science teachers if they have the same number of years experience and credentials.
I never saw the updated report that said he didn't have head trauma, but, it's really irrelevant because he's still dead because of the riot.

Never said the other two things.
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I never saw the updated report that said he didn't have head trauma, but, it's really irrelevant because he's still dead because of the riot.

Never said the other two things.
"I never saw the updated report that said he didn't have head trauma, but"

Everyone else did.

"it's really irrelevant because he's still dead because of the riot."

Fascinating that you know more than the doctor who did the autopsy.

"Never said the other two things"

The hell you didn't.
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