Ron’s at it again

[wdmso]

Louisiana Gov. Edwards Signs Bill Making Mailing of Abortion Pills a Crime

Yep conservatives sure have a funny way of supporting freedom
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Louisiana Gov. Edwards Signs Bill Making Mailing of Abortion Pills a Crime

Yep conservatives sure have a funny way of supporting freedom
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conservatives like freedom, but aren’t keen on what we’d consider to be murder of the unborn.

The fact that you think
opposing abortion is inconsistent with conservative ideals, shows the depths of your complete ignorance.

Conservatives believe there are two sides to the abortion issue, two people involved.

You’ve said that you oppose
abortion after “viability” - right? does that mean you oppose freedom after that point?

conservatism isnt the same
as anarchy.
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[Pete F.]

Democratic Florida frontrunner Charlie Crist is polling one point higher than Ron DeSantis.

DeathSantis can be DeFeated.
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[Pete F.]

“Conservatism isn’t the same as anarchy”

Today 6 SCOTUS justices who go to work every day in one of the most well-guarded buildings in the country ruled against commonsense gun control laws to protect students, teachers, grocery store clerks, and doctors that go to school and work every day without such a privilege.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

“Conservatism isn’t the same as anarchy”

Today 6 SCOTUS justices who go to work every day in one of the most well-guarded buildings in the country ruled against commonsense gun control laws to protect students, teachers, grocery store clerks, and doctors that go to school and work every day without such a privilege.
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and your side is publishing the names of the schools where their kids go. so spare me the civics lesson.

saying a proposed law is popular, is t a reason. why SCOTUS should vote for it. They are supposed to be guided by the constitution, not public opinion.

“Gimme what i want” isnt a legal
argument.
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[Pete F.]

Neither is make up #^&#^&#^&#^&

It’s interesting that it’s called ‘originalism’ when the Second Amendment ORIGINALLY was interpreted entirely differently than it is now.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Neither is make up #^&#^&#^&#^&

It’s interesting that it’s called ‘originalism’ when the Second Amendment ORIGINALLY was interpreted entirely differently than it is now.
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so tell us why they made the wrong legal argument.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so tell us why they made the wrong legal argument.
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You can feel free to read the dissent

SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court

with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei.

So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion.

But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You can feel free to read the dissent

SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court

with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei.

So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion.

But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.
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sure i can read the dissent. i asked you.

do you can’t tell me why you think they made the wrong argument, you just know you’re supposed to side with the liberals.

The court has been liberal since Warren Burger was on it. elections have consequences.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You can feel free to read the dissent

SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court

with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei.

So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion.

But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.
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the right to own guns is explicitly guaranteed. The right to kill your unborn baby was invented out of thin air by judges who thought it was their job to be activists.

Activists play a very important role. But they make terrible
judges. I guess you have no idea what the blindfold represents on every statue of lady justice in every courthouse in the country.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the right to own guns is explicitly guaranteed. The right to kill your unborn baby was invented out of thin air by judges who thought it was their job to be activists.

Activists play a very important role. But they make terrible
judges. I guess you have no idea what the blindfold represents on every statue of lady justice in every courthouse in the country.
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“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Actually activist judges have now interpreted this to mean citizens, not militia and overturned a hundred year old state law.

Generations of Supreme Court and academic opinion held that the amendment did not confer on individuals a right “to keep and bear Arms” but, rather, referred only to the privileges belonging to state militias. This was not a controversial view. The late Chief Justice Warren E. Burger said, in 1991, that the idea that the Second Amendment conferred a right for individuals to bear arms was “a fraud on the American public.” Burger was no liberal, and his view simply reflected the overwhelming consensus on the issue at the time.

But hopefully you’ll get the results you wished for.

Over 20,000 civilians have been killed by gun violence in the US in 2022 so far.

Compare that with 4,662 verified civilian war deaths in Ukraine.
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[wdmso]

For 108 years, New York has said that anyone who wants to carry a gun in public must apply for a license that shows a demonstrated need to carry the gun beyond average public safety fears. This is known as “proper cause.”

Then conservatives started twisting the constitution.. in the 80s shocking

Now they will be filing lawsuits stating requirements of a permit or license is unconstitutional. And their hand picked justices will do as they are told
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[The Dad Fisherman]

A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you.
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In any event, it’s not called the Bill Of Needs.
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[scottw]

since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you.

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Originally Posted by wdmso

Seems the Truth Has made the case that we can’t count in the police.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need

exactly, exactly, exactly.

they want it both ways.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need

Classic you couldn’t figure out the comments were about uvalde

Let me guess if that was your kids school . You would be out shaking their hands for their hard work and dedication to the community..

It’s odd how conservatives demand accountability from everyone but themselves and those they support

Then try to twist that accountable as some form of plot for discrediting the police or the POTUS

But claiming Biden took showers with his daughter is what exactly ?accountability or Discrediting

Or just the usual Childlike like lies and. Name calling and pedo obsession the right is famous for?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Classic you couldn’t figure out the comments were about uvalde

Let me guess if that was your kids school . You would be out shaking their hands for their hard work and dedication to the community..

It’s odd how conservatives demand accountability from everyone but themselves and those they support

Then try to twist that accountable as some form of plot for discrediting the police or the POTUS

But claiming Biden took showers with his daughter is what exactly ?accountability or Discrediting

Or just the usual Childlike like lies and. Name calling and pedo obsession the right is famous for?
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because the left wasn’t demonizing the police before Uvalde. Nope.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

because the left wasn’t demonizing the police before Uvalde. Nope.
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https://www.newsmax.com/platinum/sch...23/id/1075701/

School shooting errors damaging cops reputation nationwide

See Jim I live in reality not a bubble of excuses and made up lies that the left is demonizing cops or religion or Trump or Ron . But I am the one with a narrative that’s funny

Seems you only want accountability with those you disagree with not based on the merits of why people or groups should be held accountable .. big difference
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[Pete F.]

And the second amendment is not included in the bill of rights

Originalism is great because it means whatever my headcanons are about the founding fathers, who were obviously a hive mind, is the basis of all law.
Yea, sure
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[Pete F.]

Republicans have only won one popular vote in the last 34 years. Democratic Senators represent 40 million more voters than Republican Senators. Doesn’t matter. We have 6 conservative Supreme Court monarchs who call all the shots. This is not what functional democracy looks like.
How dare anyone suggest the court was loaded by the right wing
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Republicans have only won one popular vote in the last 34 years. Democratic Senators represent 40 million more voters than Republican Senators. Doesn’t matter. We have 6 conservative Supreme Court monarchs who call all the shots. This is not what functional democracy looks like.
How dare anyone suggest the court was loaded by the right wing
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they don’t have to win the popular vote. why would
they waste energy in CA and NY?

Maybe if your side didn’t go
out of their way to show disdain and contempt for flyover country.

If your side can’t figure out the mathematical realities of the electoral college, maybe that’s their fault.
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[Pete F.]

There will be high fives all around at the GOP coke orgies tonight.
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Originally Posted by Pete F.

There will be high fives all around at the GOP coke orgies tonight.
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And much complaining about the threats from liberal activist judges.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

There will be high fives all around at the GOP coke orgies tonight.
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absolutely. been hoping for 50
years. indescribably rejoicing.

although, i’m not sure what the practical effect is. abortion will still be available, just not everywhere.

for all his many many faults, Trump will go down as, by far, the best friend the unborn ever had in the Oval Office.

liberals wanted criminal justice reform for decades. Conservatives wanted Roe overturned for decades. Trump delivered both. Amazing.
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[Pete F.]

And you think the insurance industry has not set things up so they are indispensable and can charge whatever they want?
That people are not required to buy their product?
That they don’t find anyway possible to not pay claims?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And you think the insurance industry has not set things up so they are indispensable and can charge whatever they want?
That people are not required to buy their product?
That they don’t find anyway possible to not pay claims?
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insurance companies don’t take one cent from customers, which the customer doesn’t choose to give them. competition. free market. Real world.

make that wrong.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

insurance companies don’t take one cent from customers, which the customer doesn’t choose to give them. competition. free market. Real world.

make that wrong.
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Are you telling me workmens compensation, proof of vehicle insurance, bonding for contractors, etc are not required by legislation?
Who lobbied for that coverage?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Are you telling me workmens compensation, proof of vehicle insurance, bonding for contractors, etc are not required by legislation?
Who lobbied for that coverage?
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i’m telling you MY insurance company cannot take a penny of yours, which you dont freely choose to give to them.

you may have to buy insurance, but not from any one company. each company has to make its customers want to hand over their money. That’s very different from deducting it directly from everyone’s paycheck. Couldn’t be more different.

Make. That. Wrong.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m telling you MY insurance company cannot take a penny of yours, which you dont freely choose to give to them.

you may have to buy insurance, but not from any one company. each company has to make its customers want to hand over their money. That’s very different from deducting it directly from everyone’s paycheck. Couldn’t be more different.

Make. That. Wrong.
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Who lobbied to make coverage required?
Seen any new startups in insurance?
Everyone I know in the insurance industry does pretty well, of course compensation helps to justify the profit since it is cost based.
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