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08-06-2011, 11:15 AM
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Larry-You wouldn't have to do that. You are a known entity whose credibility is above reproach.
When such a prized record falls guys will always cast a suspicious eye, especially when the details are as ... Interesting ...as they are here: 1) The guy won't seek the IGFA record, 2) The fish is short for its weight, 3) The fish is entered in, and will likely win, a major contest, 4) Said contest does not require the fish be cut open to see if it has been loaded, 5) The fish was caught in Connecticut, 6) By a relative unknown...
Being a skeptic does not make one a jealous a$$hole as some would like to believe.
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08-06-2011, 11:24 AM
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woody
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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08-06-2011, 11:25 AM
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There is more information on the Field and Stream site, good story, hats off to the angler
http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos...d-striped-bass
Looks like it will be submitted too: "There’s another rumor he can put to rest: Reports that Myerson won’t enter the fish as a world record? Bunk, he says. “I’d be an ass if I didn’t, wouldn’t I?”
Some poor bastard broke this fish off too, there was a hook and leader in its jaws 
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08-06-2011, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodyCT
Larry-You wouldn't have to do that. You are a known entity whose credibility is above reproach.
When such a prized record falls guys will always cast a suspicious eye, especially when the details are as ... Interesting ...as they are here: 1) The guy won't seek the IGFA record, 2) The fish is short for its weight, 3) The fish is entered in, and will likely win, a major contest, 4) Said contest does not require the fish be cut open to see if it has been loaded, 5) The fish was caught in Connecticut, 6) By a relative unknown...
Being a skeptic does not make one a jealous a$$hole as some would like to believe.
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1) Looks like he is submitting it for the record.
2) How long are all the other 81+ pound fish you've seen?
5) There are plenty of very big fish caught in CT during the summer.
6) The guy has a bunch of 50 pound plus fish to his credit. I'd say he's pretty well known to a lot of striper fishermen.
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08-06-2011, 11:28 AM
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49" and 82 lbs?? That don't make sense.
And they call it a 54" striper in the article??
That's a RHM fish
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08-06-2011, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
49" and 82 lbs?? That don't make sense.
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either does being 5'8" and 300 pounds but its possible. 
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08-06-2011, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by iamskippy
either does being 5'8" and 300 pounds but its possible. 
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Wow, this thread really is bringing out the worst in people  
-spence
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08-06-2011, 11:46 AM
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Wow, this thread really is bringing out the worst in people  
-spence
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Spence i was actually referring to myself 
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08-06-2011, 11:57 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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The Field and Stream article is quite interesting. Clearly the record fish was well earned. That is nice to see.
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08-06-2011, 11:46 AM
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the fish wa actualy 54" according the FnS article. its a good read, with a nice little play by play.
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08-06-2011, 12:04 PM
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I'm happy for the guy and happy it fell too a real fisherman. I really thought the record would end up going to some guy out drinking beers who decided to throw out a chunk and see what happened - "johny grab the rod" scenario. This guys resume speaks for itself. Would like to see fish examined though, if nothing else to eliminate rumors.
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08-06-2011, 12:43 PM
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man looks like someone else could've had this same fish if they didn't get broken off. This bass had 6' of leader and a hook in her from a recent hookup according to the F&S article. What a epic fish and a great story!
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08-06-2011, 03:10 PM
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I was out in that area wens. night and had a big fish break me off. I lost the leader.
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08-06-2011, 03:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
I was out in that area wens. night and had a big fish break me off. I lost the leader.
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Sea story? Or no sheet?
You should describe the leader / hook to G.M. and see if it looks the same 
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08-06-2011, 04:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
I was out in that area wens. night and had a big fish break me off. I lost the leader.
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Sea story? Or no sheet?
You should describe the leader / hook to G.M. and see if it looks the same 
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Wouldn't that be something!  To me , that would be a question worth asking Paul! 
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08-06-2011, 04:12 PM
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08-06-2011, 04:21 PM
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A quick look at a few length - weight charts shows that, based on scientific studies and metrics, that a bass would need to 55" + to be in the 80lb. range.
49-54" bass = 39-73 lbs..
81.88 lbs. of something hung from that scale, and it would put all this speculation to bed if the fish were opened up for inspection.
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08-06-2011, 05:14 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodyCT
A quick look at a few length - weight charts shows that, based on scientific studies and metrics, that a bass would need to 55" + to be in the 80lb. range.
49-54" bass = 39-73 lbs..
81.88 lbs. of something hung from that scale, and it would put all this speculation to bed if the fish were opened up for inspection.
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Actually, using the time honored seat of the pants estimator, length times girth squared dividied by 800, a 54" fish with a 35" girth would weigh........82.6875 pounds.
I did this with the reported dimensions of McReynolds' fish, 53-1/2" length and 35" girth, and it comes out at...81.92 pounds.
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08-06-2011, 05:08 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
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Congrats on a nice fish.....
WR.. Just not feeling it.
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08-06-2011, 05:12 PM
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Nebestadomous has spoken.
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08-06-2011, 05:16 PM
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Thanks Mike!
:-)
+1 Rizzo!
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08-06-2011, 05:21 PM
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Why is everyone doing the calc at 54"? Am I missing something or does the picture not show the length at 49", therefore, according to the "formula" makes it impossible to be 80 pounds unless the fish has the girth of a 55 gallon drum.
I dont think this brings out the worst in people, as a new record is good for publicity for striper fishing, if its a legit record!
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08-06-2011, 05:39 PM
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Envy ain't it Larry.
A burden of proof must be met before The Holy Grail can change hands.
Too many things seem askew with this fish for folks to accept a certified weight ALONE as the word of God.
Had the guy handled this better, ie more transparently, we would all be smooching his arse and patting his back.
For his sake I hope it is a 100% legitimate record, but he's got some proving to do before I can accept the record has fallen.
Luv ya Larry,
Jon
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08-06-2011, 07:06 PM
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Didn't say the tape was flat I said it was straight. It's VERY close to being flat on the ground though...and not enough error to make this a 54" fish. If you can prove the Pythagorean theorem wrong your a better man than me. There couldn't possibly be enough parallax in that picture to make up for 3-4" If the tape was further away sure. Not from what I see. Just saying. Don't really care one way or another. Just sorry to see another fish dead for a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing tournament.
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08-06-2011, 08:32 PM
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Hey cowhunter, admit it, you're mad because he's a redsox fan.
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08-06-2011, 08:49 PM
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You know whats stupidly priceless? Not a single person runnin their gums saw the fish ist hand. LOL.My 56lber was51 in. my 54 was 49 in my 53 was 52 in my 51 was 53 in. I've got a couple more in there too. LOL. I saw a 58 in that was 38lb.I also saw a 96 lb net fish that was 63 in long.The guy is credible. The jealousy isn't.Stupidly sad.My hats off to the guy. I've lost some really nice hogs an saw one over 60 in lost by a buddy on the Vineyard . big fish are out there. Thats a big fish. I have a 54 on the wall that that fish makes look like a Guppy.
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08-06-2011, 08:55 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Originally Posted by stripermaineiac
You know whats stupidly priceless? Not a single person runnin their gums saw the fish ist hand. LOL.My 56lber was51 in. my 54 was 49 in my 53 was 52 in my 51 was 53 in. I've got a couple more in there too. LOL. I saw a 58 in that was 38lb.I also saw a 96 lb net fish that was 63 in long.The guy is credible. The jealousy isn't.Stupidly sad.My hats off to the guy. I've lost some really nice hogs an saw one over 60 in lost by a buddy on the Vineyard . big fish are out there. Thats a big fish. I have a 54 on the wall that that fish makes look like a Guppy.
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Yeah, but you and I are so old that we still measure them at fork length. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-06-2011, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stripermaineiac
You know whats stupidly priceless? Not a single person runnin their gums saw the fish ist hand. LOL.My 56lber was51 in. my 54 was 49 in my 53 was 52 in my 51 was 53 in. I've got a couple more in there too. LOL. I saw a 58 in that was 38lb.I also saw a 96 lb net fish that was 63 in long.The guy is credible. The jealousy isn't.Stupidly sad.My hats off to the guy. I've lost some really nice hogs an saw one over 60 in lost by a buddy on the Vineyard . big fish are out there. Thats a big fish. I have a 54 on the wall that that fish makes look like a Guppy.
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Common bud, U can tell wieght / length proportions... Broadness of tail, body, girth etc.. Not one correct lenght/ girth measurement? Ive seen VA fish that were 48-49 inches long and well over 50lbs. that fish aint it and that and what everybody else I know says.. I have seen fish 53"-54" long in the 60's, Yeah never a 70 or 80 and probably never will. I spoke with my buddy that personally saw mcreynolds fish and is laughing his but off in comparison... I nor anybody I know could hold em out like this guy... I got a 59 on the wall and it looks bigger, the 53.10 mouth that I have is bigger than that fish.. There are alot of variables... I predict it will not be accepted as a WR By IGFA...
Look at the mouth where he is putting a tape measure too. You can get an idea of the girth and how the belly is sunken in... I cant tell u how many guys predicted this when Vican caught his fish.
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08-07-2011, 12:25 AM
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Pete K.
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[QUOTE: stripermaineiac: "You know whats stupidly priceless? Not a single person runnin their gums saw the fish ist hand".
To Stripermaniac: Your assumption that no one saw it first hand is stupidly priceless... You remember the crowd that was reportedly gathered at the shop for the weigh in??? Some of those people were actually fishermen... from this board... And it didnt look a pound over 65.
If the fish LOOKS like its 80+ youre fine... when it looks like its a 60, you get a video camera and you dissect the thing in front of Geraldo Rivera to dispel all doubt. I would do it to shut everybody the hell up preemptively.
If you fish just for fun and dont want cash, prizes, and fame, dont bring it to a shop to get weighed... weigh it at home on a deer scale... but if you want the lime light, prepare to have it shined up your Asss for a card-pulling colonoscopy.
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08-06-2011, 09:00 PM
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LOL so true so damn true LOL
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