Bernzy I love Albert Lee. Awesome picker for sure. Not bad for a British country player. he played back up on a few Claptons tours. I still like Danny Gatton better but once you are at that level how do you choose , I just enjoy. Thanks for the tune it got me going today P.
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Prof. This will really get you going......FZ and friends
Bernzy
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BTW I will call you on Sat.sometime to broach that subject. I got to go to movies with daughter today, school vacation, and I got a date with a plug ho tomorrow. P.
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ProfM, I don't know if you were refering to ALVIN Lee of Ten Years After, but he could pick a lick as well. When he was banging out "I'm Goin' Home" at Woodstock (the REAL one!!), I thought his head was going to explode! Mine too.......TC
No different guy, but he is good also but different style. Listen to the youtube song Bernzy posted you can get a real good idea how good Albert is. Phenomenal picker with his own style. A Barry Manilow look a like, poor guy.
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I would add to the guys to check out Richard Thompson, Danny Gatton and Bob Brozman. Brozman has got to be the top slide player out there at the moment. Gatton was incredible, sort of like a cross between James Burton and Roy Buchanan, left us far too early. Richard Thompson has been around forever but he is not generally well known but can play up a storm on both electric and acousitc.
All of these guys have clips on you tube.
Ronson was not only a great guitar player but he could hold his own on stage in the presence of the bigger than life (gross understatement!) David Bowie. Some rather bizarre theatrics but never at the expense of the music.
just listened to "highway call" again- #^&#^&#^&#^&ey betts is special.
Yeah but listening to CD's of the early Allmans... love hearing Duane...
Saw Leslie West (Mountain) w/Corky Lang on drums in Newport last summer, that was a great small club show and he can still wail...
You know who gets no love is Pete "Hope I die before I get old" Townshend saw the Who at Great Woods 5 or 6 years ago and he was still effortless...
Bryan
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Good point.
He played Npt Blues Cafe last summer.
Heard it was kick-ass 300people...
They had some decent acts last summer; West, Betts, Derringer...
Bryan
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OK, I love this thread! Yes, compelling between- working reading, & great info. & leads on new stuff to hear!
But: at times it has been about the "best" guitarists... & the best "unknown" or little- known names that most have never heard of, or their music... but back to the original question Bryan was asking (100's of pages ago!) ... who are the "most underrated?" To me that means, who has achieved the most as a Guitarist in music history (to me, that means "Rock"-- sorry!). WHO has been among the very best, & also has been in bands that sold millions of records-- yet few (even avid) rock fans know their names, though all have heard their playing/ songs?...
My most underrated: 1) James Honeyman- Scott, Pretenders
2) Neil Schon, Santana/ Journey
3) Randy Rhoads
4) Tom Scholz
5) Joe Perry
#'s 2- 4 I've discussed earlier here, as have others.
Joe Perry must be on this list, because most who know his name do so only linked to lame "new 'smith" songs like "Love in an Elevator," etc. All the fans of this "new" Aerosmith would hate the "old" Aerosmith-- because the songs back then were killer audio/ stereophonic assaults!... and Joes' guitar was always blistering! His work on "Toys..." and "Rocks" alone would make him an all- time "heavy" Rock guitarist... but the earlier stuff was even better, esp. the 1st album (more raw & bluesy). IMHO Joe was way better in his prime then were Eddie VH or Slash or James Hetfield, talented as they were/ are! (I'm quite sure Slash would admit he patterned everything-- his look and guitar-style-- after Joe P.! Maybe you'd have to get him drunk first!)
And Tom Scholz?-- WHO knows that name? Yet who doesn't own and/ or love the first Boston album?? Yes, the drums, bass & songs/ lyrics & vocals were all phenomenal too... but Toms' guitar stole the show on every song! Totally unique sound too, another sign of guitar greatness: you KNOW when you're hearing Duane, Gilmour, Beck, Hendrix-- or Tom S.! No mistaking any for any other player! Most of what Eddie V. did in his (so- short) "prime" was mimicking what guys like Trower, Beck & Jimi did before him... in front of the least- talented backing band imaginable (worst rock bassist ever: Michael Anthony!)... with terribly- written songs! ("Jump" stupidest song in "hard/ heavy- Rock" history!)
OK, to our subject: which "unknown" guitarist luckily (or by good choosing) had an AWESOME band behind him... and with one of Rock history's most charismatic front- men (ahem, front- women!). If all you've ever heard of the Pretenders was "Brass in Pocket" or "Back on the Chain Gang" then you'll have to take my word for this ('till your own research!): the Pretenders were one of the greatest bands in Rock history (not "top- 10" but def. "top- 20")-- in TWO albums only!-- and much of this was due to their amazing guitar- player, James Honeyman- Scott!
Again, like poor Randy R., it was two great masterpieces (albums) and gone from this World for poor James (in this case it WAS drinking/ drugs)... so any curious to prove me wrong have little material to hear & judge! "Pretenders (One)" and "P. Two" were the albums... songs to make you instant believers are: "Mystery Achievement"; "The Wait"; "Private Life"; "The Adultress"; "Space Invader"... Hard/ rockin' cuts mix with mellow/ acoustic/ melodic ballads sung with such depth & soul by Chrissy... and James plays accordingly with equal beauty. Sometimes hard & driving & "metal"- ish... sometimes wispy or acoustic or background. The drummers' top- notch, the bassist is amazing (& also died young)... and Chrissy's voice & style back then made her a lasting Rock icon (though she tarnished this by doing crappy pop stuff after James & Pete died). oke:
Simply listen... or listen again if it's been a while! Yes, there are better guitar- players you'll say... but how great is this guy to be a no- name??... now to be nearly/ completely forgotten?
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Couple more I thought of lately as I got a fantastic album and they were both on it. Mike Stern and Hiram Bullock. You might remember Hiram on David Sanborns great album Voyer, along with Steve Gadd, RR. and the original Letterman guitarist. Both are very underrated.
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You want to hear some sick $#!+ pick up the Vital Techtones album. Scott Hendersen Victor Wooten and a great drummer whose name escapes me. Scott Hendersen is from a band called Tribal Tech, his playing is reminiscent of Steve Morse maybe a little Satriani in there too. Vic is the bass player and if you don;t know of him, you HAVE to hear him. He plays bass for Bela Fleck and the Flecktones (also a great band). Victor has won Bass player of the year the last 3 or 4 years running. Check it out.
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You know who gets no love is Pete "Hope I die before I get old" Townshend saw the Who at Great Woods 5 or 6 years ago and he was still effortless...
Townsend was the lord and master of the power chord which worked so well with Who music but he was never a pickin' and pl#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&' master like SlowHand, Beck, Stevie Ray, Buddy Guy, Jimi and some of the other great ax men.
Townshend was fantastic. You don't have to be lightning fast to be good in my book. Saw them in the 70's, I think, at Boston Garden. Moon passed out on stage at the drums if I remember correctly, show ended early. It is all a blurr at point. Quadrophenia is one of my favorite albums still to this day. P.
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That was great John. Always like them together and separately, hate guys with fingers that long.
TDF The Real me. Love the bass line. I am going to have to listen to that album right now, for the second time this week.
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I love Albert Lee. Awesome picker for sure. Not bad for a British country player. he played back up on a few Claptons tours. I still like Danny Gatton better but once you are at that level how do you choose
, I just enjoy. Thanks for the tune it got me going today
P.
... who are the "most underrated?" To me that means, who has achieved the most as a Guitarist in music history (to me, that means "Rock"-- sorry!). WHO has been among the very best, & also has been in bands that sold millions of records-- yet few (even avid) rock fans know their names, though all have heard their playing/ songs?...
I think, at Boston Garden. Moon passed out on stage at the drums if I remember correctly, show ended early. It is all a blurr at point. Quadrophenia is one of my favorite albums still to this day. P.
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