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01-25-2015, 05:29 PM
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john harbaugh- don't know the rule book do i? try this one on for size tb and bb.
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01-25-2015, 05:54 PM
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And I'm I'm sure adding or removing air from the ball after they are inspected is illegal.
I'm sure we've all played with footballs in the cold weather. They can lose air and still actually feel harder
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01-25-2015, 06:09 PM
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And I'm I'm sure adding or removing air from the ball after they are inspected is illegal.
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...unless of course, the refs approve it. The point is, the Pats were
responsible for ensuring that the balls were right at game time. They
had AMPLE opportunities to check their standard procedures to make
sure they got it right. If they didn't do it, that's negligence. Right, any
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01-25-2015, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hq2
...unless of course, the refs approve it. The point is, the Pats were
responsible for ensuring that the balls were right at game time. They
had AMPLE opportunities to check their standard procedures to make
sure they got it right. If they didn't do it, that's negligence. Right, any
lawyers out there?
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I believe it's the refs job to add or remove air at that point
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01-25-2015, 06:51 PM
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At this point I don't believe any "reports" or "sources" that are not attributable - especially on the internet. I was watching a media specialist who said if you believe anything you read online and its not attributable - shame on you. Until the game referee/official comes on camera saying "I did check the balls with a gauge", I'll have to assume he didn't. Funny how the Patriots got into trouble during spy gate with a single camera but now with hundreds of cameras all over the stadium there hasn't been any suspicious activity reported - yet.
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01-25-2015, 08:16 PM
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Once the REFS inspect it is Refs responsibilty not the Pats...Refs inspect the balls it is their signature and everyone believes everything is fine...... 
Latest report is the balls were about a pound short....wait for commish report.... |
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01-25-2015, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hq2
...unless of course, the refs approve it. The point is, the Pats were
responsible for ensuring that the balls were right at game time. They
had AMPLE opportunities to check their standard procedures to make
sure they got it right. If they didn't do it, that's negligence. Right, any
lawyers out there?
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This is not a legal issue,it is a rule book issue. Is it possible the Colts balls were overinflated and then lost psi due to the weather? The balls are checked 2 hours prior to kickoff for compliance,after that,whatever happens due to conditions other than being manipulated by humans is OK.
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01-25-2015, 08:36 PM
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when does it become defamation of charater
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01-25-2015, 09:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
when does it become defamation of charater
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LOOOOONG past that Raven |
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01-25-2015, 09:55 PM
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when does it become defamation of charater
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Its not when you are guilty......
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01-25-2015, 10:00 PM
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Its when you are not guilty......
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01-26-2015, 08:57 AM
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As in suspended for ped use
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01-26-2015, 09:46 AM
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Monday morning and Deflategate is still the NFL topic of conversation throughout the country The week of the game instead of the game.
Can't be good !
Like I said.
This will be their legacy.
Greatest run in NFL history, But......
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01-26-2015, 09:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Monday morning and Deflategate is still the NFL topic of conversation throughout the country The week of the game instead of the game.
Can't be good !
Like I said.
This will be their legacy.
Greatest run in NFL history, But......
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Blame Indy !
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01-26-2015, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Monday morning and Deflategate is still the NFL topic of conversation throughout the country The week of the game instead of the game.
Can't be good !
Like I said.
This will be their legacy.
Greatest run in NFL history, But......
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So what you are saying is that the Raiders showed the Pats how to cheat? But not how to lose? |
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01-26-2015, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
So what you are saying is that the Raiders showed the Pats how to cheat? But not how to lose?
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John.
I said from the start I thought this is silly.
The Raiders for 40 years prided themselves on playing outside the rules and if others down like it tough #^&#^&#^&#^&.
The Pats just the oposit.
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01-26-2015, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
This will be their legacy.
Greatest run in NFL history, But......
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I think people are going to realize just how stupid this entire hype cycle really was. |
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01-26-2015, 12:04 PM
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I know against Seattle is not going to happen, but boy wouldn't a big blow out win shut everyone up.
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01-26-2015, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I know against Seattle is not going to happen, but boy wouldn't a big blow out win shut everyone up.
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Even if the balls were checked by NASA every play the haters would still be claiming we cheated... |
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01-26-2015, 01:48 PM
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There was talk of ticket prices for this game being low, and the general interest in the Pats saturated around the country due to their long term success, and the Seahawks far from a favorite team with their scandals. It makes you wonder how much of this talk is the media trying to create a hot story to artificially inflate some interest in less than fully inflated Super Bowl week.
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01-26-2015, 04:18 PM
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I wonder if the locker room attendant acted alone
Hmmm
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01-26-2015, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I wonder if the locker room attendant acted alone
Hmmm
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No, it was this crazy situation where the Pats balls deflated due to the temp and the Colts didn't. Likely there was a polar vortex caused by Bellychicks ego or Gisele's thigh gap that caused a lower temperature around the Patriots balls. The attendant is just a scapegoat for mother nature. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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01-26-2015, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
No, it was this crazy situation where the Pats balls deflated due to the temp and the Colts didn't. Likely there was a polar vortex caused by Bellychicks ego or Gisele's thigh gap that caused a lower temperature around the Patriots balls. The attendant is just a scapegoat for mother nature.
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There's a perfectly good explanation for that. The Colts balls were inflated to the high end of the NFL regulation psi.
From what I understand they are looking at the 6 to 10 minute window from when the balls removed from the referees locker room and taken to the field.
Nothing will come out of this .
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01-26-2015, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
There's a perfectly good explanation for that. The Colts balls were inflated to the high end of the NFL regulation psi.
From what I understand they are looking at the 6 to 10 minute window from when the balls removed from the referees locker room and taken to the field.
Nothing will come out of this .
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Thigh gap. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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01-26-2015, 05:21 PM
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This is getting really old. WTF America ?
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01-26-2015, 05:33 PM
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01-26-2015, 05:39 PM
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Do you guys think it should be 2 balls at 10.5 PSI or 1 ball at 12.5 PSI? Would it be deflated equivalency? ....oooops, wrong thread...sorry.
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01-26-2015, 06:24 PM
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the pats were stepping off the plane
(just caught the tail end of it-news)
and they were hinting around about some new info
somethin about a rouge or disgruntled pats employee?
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01-26-2015, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
the pats were stepping off the plane
(just caught the tail end of it-news)
and they were hinting around about some new info
somethin about a rouge or disgruntled pats employee?
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Disgruntled employee makes the balls the way Brady prefers them. I think polar vortex is more feasible. Although, if it was a disgruntled employee, what happens to all the weather theories? This is a much better way to pass the winter than that ridiculous ice fishing business. Thanks Brady, Bellychick, Mother Nature, Giselle, disgruntled ball boy, or whomever really is responsible. Most of us wouldn't have cared two craps about this super bowl with out this. I mean that sincerely. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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01-26-2015, 07:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
John.
I said from the start I thought this is silly.
The Raiders for 40 years prided themselves on playing outside the rules and if others down like it tough #^&#^&#^&#^&.
The Pats just the oposit.
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