Mass Striper decline numbers from NOAA - Page 9 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Typhoon · 02-23-2012, 10:11 AM

I was going to say make Massachusetts a residents only commercial fishery.

Chatham is ridiculous.

l.i.fish.in.vt · 02-23-2012, 10:05 PM

Andrew,check with the ACLU,residency laws are basically illegal,you can not deny a person the right to work.that is why most states have nonresident licenses.

Sea Dangles · 02-23-2012, 10:11 PM

Well I am a resident and I can't get a fluke permit while others can. RI has no problem telling you where to go. MA is just greedy. Hope your winter has been fun John.Sebastian soon.

angler229 · 02-23-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoon

I was going to say make Massachusetts a residents only commercial fishery.

Chatham is ridiculous.

I was a a fisheries meeting were this was discussed. The explanation is they can't legally do it do to labor laws. But the option is there to make a non-resident license cost up to 5 times what a resident license cost. That might negate the benefit for a lot of out state part timers.

l.i.fish.in.vt · 02-23-2012, 10:47 PM

Chris,i am pretty sure no more fluke license are being issued in Mass.just because a state doesn't issue a license doesn't make it legal.if you want to fight it there are numerous cases were residency laws have been fought and won. i have been thru it twice once in Fla and once in LI.a call to the ACLU will make most towns or states comply to your right to work.winter has been disappointing snow wise,but skiing has been good overall.let me know if you get up this way in March

MAKAI · 02-24-2012, 09:40 AM

Getting back to the thread for a moment,

Few of us seem to be able to see past the fish that are swimming around now and wrap our heads around the real concern.

THE THING THAT WILL BITE US ALL IN THE ASS IS THE WAY THE CHESAPEAKE WITH ITS MYCO, HYPOXIA ,POLLUTION ETC. IS PUTTING A BIG HURT ON THE JUVENILE BASS.

Present anomaly of last years YOY excluded, it takes 3times the biomass of bass to produce the same YOY it normally would take. So does it not make sense to keep more eggs in the water now ? The Chesapeake isn't going to be cleaning up anytime soon.

This is the real 800 pound gorilla in the room. Not our incessant childish whining of who gets to keep or not keep fish.

Raider Ronnie · 02-24-2012, 10:28 AM

You guys bitching on favor should either show up at the state house or shut the #^&#^&#^&#^& up !
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MAKAI · 02-24-2012, 10:57 AM

See what I mean.
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BasicPatrick · 02-24-2012, 11:17 AM

I'd love to know if those on this thread have communicated their opinions to any MA based organizations that they belong to?

I'd also like to know if anyone is attending the hearing at the State House next week.

My Point is that Democracy is not a spectator sport.

BasicPatrick · 02-24-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoon

I was going to say make Massachusetts a residents only commercial fishery.

Chatham is ridiculous.

that is a valid allocation argument but will not save one striped bass...the quota is the quota and oho bye the way it is not enough fish to really matter in the numbers....we need real conservation and that means an across the board mortality cut

eelskimmer · 02-24-2012, 11:54 AM

Last Tuesday I posted if anyone wants
to carpool to split parking fee in Boston
to send me a PM. I live in Dedham
and we can do four people. Any takers???

JohnnyD · 02-24-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BasicPatrick

I'd love to know if those on this thread have communicated their opinions to any MA based organizations that they belong to?

I'd also like to know if anyone is attending the hearing at the State House next week.

My Point is that Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Can't go to the hearing because of work, but I've already sent out a few emails and left some voicemails to politicians in my district. I'll update if I ever hear back.

stripermaineiac · 02-24-2012, 10:13 PM

Got a funeral to go to at 10 so no can do. ist damn one on my day off too.Bites

Eric Roach · 02-27-2012, 11:21 AM

Some people do not learn unless it is first-hand.

When anglers in ME and NH started voicing concerns a few years ago, some guys from southern New England and NY called us alarmists. I think many in those states have a different opinion today.

The menatality of some of the anglers in this thread is truly alarming. It seems some don't want to see beyond their own limited experience -- they could be one day tracking and pounding on the last school of bass in the Atlantic and their perception would be all is well, and their primary concern would be promoting their success.

JohnnyD · 02-27-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Roach

The menatality of some of the anglers in this thread is truly alarming. It seems some don't want to see beyond their own limited experience -- they could be one day tracking and pounding on the last school of bass in the Atlantic and their perception would be all is well, and their primary concern would be promoting their success.

The mentality of some is motivated by the all-mighty dollar. I'd bet 9 out of 10 people that say the bass are healthy and no new regulations should be made are also people that commercially fish, provide charters or both.