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04-18-2007, 08:29 AM
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Fuel costs
This is the THIRD TIME I have seen these two types of headlines on the SAME PAGE of the news on the same day...
Crude keeps falling and pump prices rise...it is really starting to piss me off.
Oil Prices Continue Slide AP
Gas Prices: A Costly Spring for Drivers
Fuel prices are rising higher well before the summer driving season, reaching a record high for April. Will pain at the pump worsen down the road?
Its time we tap our domestic resources and put some economic pressure on the rest of the world We stop buying from them you watch the price drop!
...WHILE AT THE SAME TIME..build more domestic refineries AND invest in next generation atomic plants. I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is our clean long term solution. For vehicles we need improved battery/fuel cell technology and it is coming. But in the meantime I want gas below 2 bucks a gallon fachristsakes. |
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04-18-2007, 10:00 AM
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Great White Scup Hunter
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That's because there is plenty of oil,,,,, Always has been,,, Sh$t you can still get oil at $40 a barrel,,,, It is just bitter,,, not the sweet stuff that needs (key words) Less refining,,,
It all has to do with the refineries..... That's where the shortage is,,,, and it is always a reason for the oil companies to raise gas prices,,,,, So there is no incentive to build a new refinery when you can still meet demand and make more money doing it....
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04-18-2007, 10:26 AM
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Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GattaFish
That's because there is plenty of oil,,,,, Always has been,,, Sh$t you can still get oil at $40 a barrel,,,, It is just bitter,,, not the sweet stuff that needs (key words) Less refining,,,
It all has to do with the refineries..... That's where the shortage is,,,, and it is always a reason for the oil companies to raise gas prices,,,,, So there is no incentive to build a new refinery when you can still meet demand and make more money doing it....
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That is how I see it. If company A processes x number of barrels and continues to make a profit (a substantial one at that) with a set # of refineries, why would they open up or bring back on line more? Sure they could process more and get their costs down. But is it really in their best interests? Their biggest concern is the bottom line and if they make the same net profit by refining more (cumulative) , why would they bother. More refineries means more people working for them and the greater chance for something to cost them money. ie; mechanical failures,potential injuries and lawsuits and all the other expenses associated.
Sure it would make the general population happier. But then again, I don't believe they give 2 craps about us. Their biggest concern is about the bottom line. We are becoming a society of "the Haves", and "Have Nots". Middle class America is slowly heading towards non existence and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.
I would bet 40 or so years ago the majority of homes had stay at home moms. That isn't the case today. Not many households can get by on a single "bread winner". |
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04-18-2007, 11:12 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Fuel costs suck!
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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04-18-2007, 11:15 AM
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I'm sure now they will double this week and blame it on the storm!  |
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04-18-2007, 02:04 PM
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the price will drop when we get into warmer weather....
fuel oil prices will fall... creating a landslide....  |
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04-18-2007, 03:15 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Gas prices will rise thru July 4th as they always do.....so hold onto your hat!!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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04-18-2007, 04:51 PM
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Moderator
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Simplify.......
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04-18-2007, 05:21 PM
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42 dollahs American to fill my JImmy today. I coulda cried...
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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04-18-2007, 06:41 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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I wish my truck was only 42 bucks, I filled up tonight on the way home and paid 90 dollars  freakin oil companies and their greed is making me sick and costing me more than just money 
I can't take this much longer.
55 miles one way to where I'm working, 25 bucks in gas alone for the round trip  |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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04-18-2007, 06:47 PM
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Bruce i'm with you i commute 100 miles a day 6 days a week.I can't wait for it to hit $4.00 a gallon i might as well just have my job direct depost my weeks pay into the oil companies account.
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04-18-2007, 06:51 PM
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Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenn
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What is the "tax" applied by these other countries to their prices? And what do they get from these added taxes?
http://wais.stanford.edu/ztopics/wee...usvseurope.htm
Last edited by MAC; 04-18-2007 at 06:59 PM..
Reason: added text
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04-18-2007, 07:17 PM
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Location: Westport, Ma.
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What torkx me off is that we are double -tripple paying. We paid in cash and blood to liberate and rebuild Kuait. Ditto Afganistan. Then Iraq. Do we get a "deal" of fuel from any of these ingrates??? Noooo. Do we get to pay extra taxs to be over there protecting and rebuilding them. Yessss. So we get to pay extra for their goods AND give them huge chunks of out tax $ too. We're suckers.
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04-18-2007, 07:40 PM
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Slip, believe me, I feel your pain. Last year I sold my ex-interceptor Caprice, an ex Chief's car because it was costing 100 bucks every time I had to re-fuel. Man, I loved that car. Fast and comfy. And a ginormus fuel tank. My Jimmy gets 20mph, I thought that was ok, but geeze.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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04-19-2007, 09:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
42 dollahs American to fill my JImmy today. I coulda cried...
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thats about half a tank in my truck. |
boatless................can I have a ride?
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04-19-2007, 05:32 PM
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$49 to fill my 150... you guys must have some huge tanks..
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04-19-2007, 07:34 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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how does 5.12 a gallon sound. Thats what I paid in Lauderdale today...........................for jetA
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boatless................can I have a ride?
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04-20-2007, 10:33 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Looks like I will using the smaller tin boat a lot this year, again.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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04-20-2007, 03:48 PM
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It's about respect baby!
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Location: ri
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46 n change to fill my 4 cyl tacoma.
As an aside. Does anyone else feel that we should be paying twenty-five cents a gallon for gas with what our guys and gals are doing over there in the sandbox??
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Domination takes full concentration..
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04-20-2007, 04:13 PM
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I pay 90 to fill up the Yukon XL but I don't drive very far so it last a good 6 weeks. The boat is my problem... That is a $400+ bill each fill up.
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04-20-2007, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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hopefully
things will change for the better soon.
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04-20-2007, 08:02 PM
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$40 to get just over a 1/2 tank this evening for an Expedition. That would have filled the VW from fumes, but that car was making up the $$ difference in repair bills....
Yeah, there is no incentive for the companies making historic profits per fiscal quarter to do anything different. We keep buying it, so they will keep the supply at a level where they can get the most for it. It will be $3.30 - $3.50 by the July 4th holiday.
It is irritating to see that the prices go down per barrel and the prices at the pump go up. I am in my late thirties, but it does seem that in the past few years - the price is always going up at the slightest perceived political problem, or excuse. I literally heard that CA was experiencing a fuel issue and a big spike in prices about 1.5 months ago - because a raccoon had gotten in and shorted out their electrical power generation capability and that brought two refineries down for two days, or rather reduced their capabilities for two days. Iran or Korea's nuclear programs, increased demand during warmer months, Mercury in retrograde, etc., etc., etc.
In my naive and unsophisticated perspective it is the commodity markets and investors that are driving this - whatever they can get away with they will - because they can....
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04-20-2007, 08:20 PM
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Labrax your avatar says it all.We be the smallest fish.
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04-20-2007, 09:33 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taJon
how does 5.12 a gallon sound. Thats what I paid in Lauderdale today...........................for jetA
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Try signature in Detroit City... 6.24 a gal for Jet A ,,, that was a while ago,,,,,, Nothing like only getting 2000 gallons,,,,, Love those AMEX points,,,,, |
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04-23-2007, 06:50 AM
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there has not been one comment about building any more refineries in this country.... what a joke...
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04-23-2007, 10:51 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland,RI
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I think when we get a new democrat for president , they will lower prices. About 1 year later , The Bush oil gang will be charged with conspiracy for minipulating prices along with tons of oil company big wigs.
Of course i could be wrong. the new pres may also own oil stocks so who knows????  |
Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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04-23-2007, 11:27 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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One of the local stations in town actually went DOWN two cents over the weekend 
Saw the funniest thing yesterday. We went up to Pawtucket to visit my mom and sister, and on the way we had to make a stop at the CVS on the corner of Newman and Central Aves in Seekonk. While I was waiting for my wife to get what she needed, I noticed that the Hess station across the street had yellow crime scene tape wrapped around the pump islands. Wassup? Robbery? Shooting? Someone accidently crashed a pump resulting in damage and maybe a leak? Nope. They just roped off the pumps in order to raise the price 4 cents   As we were leaving, a kid was wrapping up and throwing away the tape, and carrying a ladder out to change the prices on the sign.
I wonder how many $50 sales they sacrificed to people who drove to the Valero station down Newman Ave in order to avoid losing 80 cents each on a couple of fillups  |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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04-23-2007, 01:48 PM
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Permanently Disconnected
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local station went down 1c today also.
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04-23-2007, 01:57 PM
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yep
the one in Upton did the same...
advertising 5 cents off special
and they went down just a penny
thats wrong.... and illegal |
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