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Old 07-07-2020, 06:43 AM   #1
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Give me the total number dead and a smiley face, that number should have been so much lower, your guy owns that. The young and stupid are adding to the case numbers and lower death rates, something to be proud of, you head is strewed on backwards.
if we had taken radical steps early on, and people bought into that, we may have been better off. but if the left went berserk at a sliver of a travel ban, what would they have done if trump ordered that the movements of infected people be tracked?

Pelosi and Diblasio were telling their constituents in late february that it was safe to go to crowded
public places. Trump owns that?

i don’t give him good marks on handling this, but many on the left and in the media were saying in late february, that trump was overreacting, that the virus wasn’t serious enough to justify his concern. and you don’t utter a syllable about that, because all that matters is orange man bad.
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if we had taken radical steps early on, and people bought into that, we may have been better off. but if the left went berserk at a sliver of a travel ban, what would they have done if trump ordered that the movements of infected people be tracked?

Pelosi and Diblasio were telling their constituents in late february that it was safe to go to crowded
public places. Trump owns that?

i don’t give him good marks on handling this, but many on the left and in the media were saying in late february, that trump was overreacting, that the virus wasn’t serious enough to justify his concern. and you don’t utter a syllable about that, because all that matters is orange man bad.
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So are we now blaming the left for pushing a Trump in the wrong direction, well it only makes sense, Trump is the king of the blame game it only makes sense his minions would too.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:23 PM   #3
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So are we now blaming the left for pushing a Trump in the wrong direction, well it only makes sense, Trump is the king of the blame game it only makes sense his minions would too.
No, please respond to what I actually said, not to voices you hear under your tin foil hat. I never said or implied that the left influenced Trump. I said we should blame Trump for his actions, and blame elected democrats for their actions. You are happy to blame Trump, you refuse to blame democrats.

I blame the left for (as recently as late February) saying that the little that Trump did, was an over reaction. I blame all elected officials, regardless of party, who said that it was safe to be in crowded public places. But officials who said that then, and who now blame Trump for not doing enough, they are guilty not only of being responsible, but of amazing hypocrisy. Not sure how you don't see that, but most people these days are incapable of saying anything critical of their own side.
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No, please respond to what I actually said, not to voices you hear under your tin foil hat. I never said or implied that the left influenced Trump. I said we should blame Trump for his actions, and blame elected democrats for their actions. You are happy to blame Trump, you refuse to blame democrats.

I blame the left for (as recently as late February) saying that the little that Trump did, was an over reaction. I blame all elected officials, regardless of party, who said that it was safe to be in crowded public places. But officials who said that then, and who now blame Trump for not doing enough, they are guilty not only of being responsible, but of amazing hypocrisy. Not sure how you don't see that, but most people these days are incapable of saying anything critical of their own side.
The left wasn’t running the country or the strategy to respond and evolve as this virus exploded, but hey if you want to blame the left who had no control the federal response go tip your foil hat. The response and messaging even now has been to promote a Trumps agenda, NOT protect American lives.
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The left wasn’t running the country or the strategy to respond and evolve as this virus exploded, but hey if you want to blame the left who had no control the federal response go tip your foil hat. The response and messaging even now has been to promote a Trumps agenda, NOT protect American lives.
OK, so Trump is responsible for what happens in NYC and San Francisco, not local elected officials. You go ahead and stick with that.

You are refusing to fold democrats accountable for their own words.
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