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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, the investigation resulted in 34 indictments including 5 people very close to Trump who have either plead guilty or been convicted and Stone who still goes to trial.

The investigation has spun off other investigations into campaign finance violations, campaign contribution fraud, Trump foundation fraud and on and on.

We now know that Trump and the campaign had numerous ties to Russia around business and political conflicts of interest and they all lied about them repeatedly to cover it up. It appears the report also lays out a case for obstruction of justice.

How is this finding nothing?

it’s finding nothing, because it found no evidence that trump or his team, collided with russia to influence the election. which if you
listened to any of your fellow shrieking marxists, was the whole point. It was a flop.

We know the trump campaign had meetings with russians? donwe knownif that happens every presidential election cycle? is that sinister, or normal? who did your man crush meet with in the run up to his elections?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s finding nothing, because it found no evidence that trump or his team, collided with russia to influence the election. which if you
listened to any of your fellow shrieking marxists, was the whole point. It was a flop.

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. They found plenty of crimes, just didn't have strong enough evidence to pass a very high bar on the specific conspiracy charge.

We know the trump campaign had meetings with russians? donwe knownif that happens every presidential election cycle? is that sinister, or normal? who did your man crush meet with in the run up to his elections?
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Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual. So is sharing campaign data with the same nation and people you owe millions of dollars to. So is discussing US policy and lying about it...and on and on...

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference.

we know that's complete BS..


trump campaign slogan next year should be

"COLLUDING TO WIN IN 2020"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

yes we need to investigate obama and hillary and everyone that they ever contacted

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. They found plenty of crimes, just didn't have strong enough evidence to pass a very high bar on the specific conspiracy charge.


Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual. So is sharing campaign data with the same nation and people you owe millions of dollars to. So is discussing US policy and lying about it...and on and on...

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

"It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. "

I see! So it wasn't about Trump? No?

"Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual"

It is unusual. It's not indicative of a high ethical standard. But unfortunately, it ain't an impeachable offense. "Because I hate his guts", is not grounds for impeachment.

You really are avoiding commenting on the media's accuracy regarding all things Trump, aren't you?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I see! So it wasn't about Trump? No?

There certainly was concern the campaign was coordinating with foreign actors.

It is unusual. It's not indicative of a high ethical standard. But unfortunately, it ain't an impeachable offense. "Because I hate his guts", is not grounds for impeachment.

You should read this...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...framers-222752

You really are avoiding commenting on the media's accuracy regarding all things Trump, aren't you?

The media gets whipped up from time to time but I think their accuracy on Trump has been pretty good and really help highlight Trump's chronic dishonesty and corrupt nature.

[The Dad Fisherman]

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Originally Posted by spence

I’m not sure how by any rational evaluation you can consider Obama a narcissist.
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Originally Posted by scottw

funniest thing ever written here....

Originally Posted by spence

Hold My Beer

Originally Posted by spence

The media gets whipped up from time to time but I think their accuracy on Trump has been pretty good and really help highlight Trump's chronic dishonesty and corrupt nature.