Drip.....Drip.....Drip...the Russians are coming

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Maybe Scott is a Russian bot trying to get Trump reelected?
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he doesn't need my help...the democraps are doing a fine job...what a freekin' disaster

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You constantly say nobody cares

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nobody cares what pete thinks...I think you even said you don't care what pete thinks

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Donald Trump: President: not a felon. Not convicted. Not conspiracist. Not convicted for obstruction. Yada, yada, yada . . .

Impeached
Corrupt
Putin’s Puppet
Once again enabling Russian interference in our elections
Selling pardons

Bush 43 in his final weeks in office pardoned a developer convicted of mail fraud. When it came out that the developer’s father had contributed $30,000 to the GOP, Bush was so upset that it would look like a favor for a donor that he took the pardon back.

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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Impeached
Corrupt
Putin’s Puppet
Once again enabling Russian interference in our elections
Selling pardons

Same old yada, yada, yada

[Got Stripers]

Same old same old like Trump willing to aid Russia indirectly to avoid (like anyone with a brain can’t see through that smoke screen) the appearance of impropriety. Intelligence head briefs those cleared to receive such briefing about Russia taking steps to help Trump again in 2020, Trump freaks out over it, fires him and puts in a dolt who is as qualified as I am to head that agency and it’s deja vu all over again.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Same old yada, yada, yada

And he is still The Same Old Corrupt Conman

Bush 43 in his final weeks in office pardoned a developer convicted of mail fraud. When it came out that the developer’s father had contributed $30,000 to the GOP, Bush was so upset that it would look like a favor for a donor that he took the pardon back.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And he is still The Same Old Corrupt Conman

Bush 43 in his final weeks in office pardoned a developer convicted of mail fraud. When it came out that the developer’s father had contributed $30,000 to the GOP, Bush was so upset that it would look like a favor for a donor that he took the pardon back.

RePete

[Pete F.]

Hey, do you know who ISN'T a convicted and sentenced felon?

It's a long list, but I was promised that ANY day now the "Deep State Coup Plotters" would be brought to justice...

Jim Comey.
John Brennan.
Andy McCabe.
Pete Strozk.
Lisa Page.

Sorry, Detbuch and QAnon.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

nobody cares what pete thinks...I think you even said you don't care what pete thinks

I care as much for what Pete thinks as I care about the majority of the other folks on this forum - no more or no less.

[PaulS]

Drip - the Russians help Trump in the 2016 election
Drip - Trump ask the Russians to find HC's emails
Drip - The Russians search for HC's emails
Drip - Trump lies about his Russia investments/plans
Drip - Trump takes Russians into the oval office
Drip - Trump praises Putin constantly and takes his word over our intelligence agencies
Drip - Russians do all they can to help Trump get elected in 2020 election.
Drip - DNI head briefs congress about Russian interference, Trump has a tantrum and fires person giving briefing
Drip - SB Trumplicans moan, deflect and cry.
Drip - Republican party strangely quite on DNI briefing.

Still trying to figure out why the Russians are so intent on getting a Repub. elected.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Drip - the Russians help Trump in the 2016 election
Drip - Trump ask the Russians to find HC's emails
Drip - The Russians search for HC's emails
Drip - Trump lies about his Russia investments/plans
Drip - Trump takes Russians into the oval office
Drip - Trump praises Putin constantly and takes his word over our intelligence agencies
Drip - Russians do all they can to help Trump get elected in 2020 election.
Drip - DNI head briefs congress about Russian interference, Trump has a tantrum and fires person giving briefing
Drip - SB Trumplicans moan, deflect and cry.
Drip - Republican party strangely quite on DNI briefing.

Still trying to figure out why the Russians are so intent on getting a Repub. elected.

So they could give more arms to Ukraine, drill more oil and natural gas to keep the price down and hurt the Russian economy, continue to strengthen NATO, slow China's economy down, Boost the American economy, maintain sanctions on Russia and Iran, stretch Russia's resources as it further involves into the Middle East, create a space force to counter and beat China to it and the power to control the space grid, and a bunch of other small stuff which obviously can't compare to your or Pete's drips.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

So they could give more arms to Ukraine,
Arms don't help when the continued support of Russia (Donald Trump meets Russia's top diplomat at White House, etc.) in the Ukraine is rapidly eroding Zelensky's popular support. I will be surprised if he lasts till our election.
drill more oil and natural gas to keep the price down and hurt the Russian economy,
Rosstat said growth in the natural resources industries, including the production of gas and gas condensate — which jumped by more than 10% — was the biggest contributor to growth over the year.
Saudi Arabia and Russia appear to be heading toward the fourth consecutive year of OPEC+ collaboration when producers gather in early March. A continuation of the output cuts agreement with a possible deepening of agreed reductions is widely anticipated.
Russian consumer demand rises in January on growing real income levels.
continue to strengthen NATO,
His brilliant move to let the Turks into Syria just might be the end of NATO as we know it. Things are breaking there.
slow China's economy down,
Morgan Stanley says China’s first-quarter growth could fall as low as 3.5% due to coronavirus, still 1% better than ours. He'll probably take credit for Coronavirus
Boost the American economy,
US GDP growth is the same as it has been for the last 10 years, and he has the deficit up to a Trillion. Just like his other bankruptcies
maintain sanctions on Russia and Iran

What happened to the sanctions on Deripaska and the other oligarchs?
U.S. President Donald Trump ordered Attorney General William Barr to drop charges against state-run Halkbank, now accused of seeking to circumvent U.S. sanctions on Iran, to deal with persistent Turkish pressure
And that stuff is just the tip of that particular iceberg

, stretch Russia's resources as it further involves into the Middle East, create a space force to counter and beat China to it and the power to control the space grid, and a bunch of other small stuff which obviously can't compare to your or Pete's drips.

Just keep believing the conman

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Originally Posted by detbuch
So they could give more arms to Ukraine,
Arms don't help when the continued support of Russia (Donald Trump meets Russia's top diplomat at White House, etc.) in the Ukraine is rapidly eroding Zelensky's popular support. I will be surprised if he lasts till our election.

Well, if arms don't help, we shouldn't be upset about a delay in sending them. I guess they help our economy when Ukraine pays for them. Damn that Trump--he should stop meeting Russian diplomats. We would be much safer and world peace would be more greatly advanced if he would stop talking with the Russians.

drill more oil and natural gas to keep the price down and hurt the Russian economy,

Rosstat said growth in the natural resources industries, including the production of gas and gas condensate — which jumped by more than 10% — was the biggest contributor to growth over the year.
Saudi Arabia and Russia appear to be heading toward the fourth consecutive year of OPEC+ collaboration when producers gather in early March. A continuation of the output cuts agreement with a possible deepening of agreed reductions is widely anticipated.
Russian consumer demand rises in January on growing real income levels.


Like I said, our increased production keeps the price down. I would suppose other oil producing nations would want to fight that by decreasing production. Either way, it hurts their economy.

continue to strengthen NATO,

His brilliant move to let the Turks into Syria just might be the end of NATO as we know it. Things are breaking there.


His insistence that Europe's countries pay more into NATO strengthens it and sends the message that Europe must more greatly support NATO. That, in effect, ended NATO as we knew it. So what did NATO do to stop Turkey?

slow China's economy down,

Morgan Stanley says China’s first-quarter growth could fall as low as 3.5% due to coronavirus, still 1% better than ours. He'll probably take credit for Coronavirus


It used to be more than 1% better than ours. And the trade war has led to a weakening growth in China's economy. And if Coronavirus expands, especially here, you will blame Trump. If it doesn't, no way you'll give Trump any credit.

Boost the American economy,

US GDP growth is the same as it has been for the last 10 years, and he has the deficit up to a Trillion. Just like his other bankruptcies


GDP growth remaining the same in a wealthier economy means an actual rise in growth. Same rate, but larger numbers.

maintain sanctions on Russia and Iran

What happened to the sanctions on Deripaska and the other oligarchs?

Congress made that decision. And it was heavily influenced by our beloved Europeans--Ambassadors from Austria, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Sweden, the U.K. and the E.U. sent a letter to Democratic House Committee Chairman Eliot Engel lobbying for the end of sanctions on

U.S. President Donald Trump ordered Attorney General William Barr to drop charges against state-run Halkbank, now accused of seeking to circumvent U.S. sanctions on Iran, to deal with persistent Turkish pressure

Halbank is Turkish, not Russian. According to the Hill: "Justice Department spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said The New York Times report “grossly mischaracterizes” the attorney general’s conversations with Bolton and that Barr never had any discussions of “personal favors” or “undue influence,” nor did he think the president’s communications with foreign leaders were “improper.”

, stretch Russia's resources as it further involves into the Middle East, create a space force to counter and beat China to it and the power to control the space grid, and a bunch of other small stuff which obviously can't compare to your or Pete's drips.


Just keep believing the conman

Keep trying to make everything Trump does, or says, or thinks, or wants, or implies, or suggests, or criticizes, or makes sarcastic fun of, or supports, or is in contact with, or breathes, a destruction of America, of the Constitution, evil, wrong . . . and that anything or anyone that opposes him, no matter how idiotic, dingbat, socialist, corrupt, will actually save us if only we all would embrace them rather than giving Trump even a slight nod of credit, or ability . . . and keep telling us that we are no better off now than under Obama, actually worse off and about to collapse into some pit of political and economic horror even though Trump is just living off of Obama policies.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Keep trying to make everything Trump does, or says, or thinks, or wants, or implies, or suggests, or criticizes, or makes sarcastic fun of, or supports, or is in contact with, or breathes, a destruction of America, of the Constitution, evil, wrong . . . and that anything or anyone that opposes him, no matter how idiotic, dingbat, socialist, corrupt, will actually save us if only we all would embrace them rather than giving Trump even a slight nod of credit, or ability . . . and keep telling us that we are no better off now than under Obama, actually worse off and about to collapse into some pit of political and economic horror even though Trump is just living off of Obama policies.

You ought to loosen that MAGA hat, it's cutting off the circulation to your brain. Twittler is losing it.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You ought to loosen that MAGA hat, it's cutting off the circulation to your brain. Twittler is losing it.

I showed you the courtesy to actually respond to your post, point by point, which I have done many times. You, here, as you have done many times, respond with nonsense.

I don't have a MAGA hat. The circulation to my brain is just fine. I am not afraid to say "Trump." That is not a taboo name that would cause me harm if I spoke it. I don't know about "Twittler" losing it, nor what it is that he is supposed to be losing.

President Trump has had a lot of wins. He doesn't appear to me to be more irrational than Bernie Sanders, or Joe Biden, or E. Warren, et. al. If I were to compare what Trump has accomplished to what you are accomplishing by your incessant, repetitious, ranting, it would appear to me that you would be the loser, not him.

It has occurred to me that, because of your method of idiotic or no response, your inability to have a rational discussion, any attempt to which you respond by merely extending your diatribe, that you are not worth talking with.

Actually, your worth ignoring. Memo to self. Will do.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I showed you the courtesy to actually respond to your post, point by point, which I have done many times. You, here, as you have done many times, respond with nonsense.

I don't have a MAGA hat. The circulation to my brain is just fine. I am not afraid to say "Trump." That is not a taboo name that would cause me harm if I spoke it. I don't know about "Twittler" losing it, nor what it is that he is supposed to be losing.

President Trump has had a lot of wins. He doesn't appear to me to be more irrational than Bernie Sanders, or Joe Biden, or E. Warren, et. al. If I were to compare what Trump has accomplished to what you are accomplishing by your incessant, repetitious, ranting, it would appear to me that you would be the loser, not him.

It has occurred to me that, because of your method of idiotic or no response, your inability to have a rational discussion, any attempt to which you respond by merely extending your diatribe, that you are not worth talking with.

Actually, your worth ignoring. Memo to self. Will do.

I answered everyone of your points that were worth answering with a defendable answer.
You deflected with baloney and weasel words each of my points.

As far as praise of Twittler or Trump goes, I think Shakespeare called that out long ago: “He that loves to be flattered is worthy o’ the flatterer.”

[detbuch]

Drip . . . drip . . . drip from Bongino. He's really good as well as charismatic and entertaining. Highly recommend his daily episodes to get an alternative view from someone with sources that have proven accurate re the Russia hoax, etc. Not for wdmso, or Striper, or Spence, but for those who want a wider range of information than the MSM which so often has gotten it wrong--almost as if they have an agenda . . . nah . . . can't be . . .

[Pete F.]

Really looking forward to a Trump/Sanders general election which is decided by who gets the coveted Vladimir Putin endorsement!!
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Really looking forward to a Trump/Sanders general election which is decided by who gets the coveted Vladimir Putin endorsement!!
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so trump can’t beat Bernie without Russia’s help? Yeah, you have your finger on the pulse.
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[Got Stripers]

Thought this was a perfect example of which column Trump checks off almost every box and it's not on the left (no pun intended). Not sure who posted it on facebook, but on seeing it this morning, boy doesn't that column on the right describe Trump to a tee. Since this thread turned to perceived Trump success, I thought it fitting.

[Jim in CT]

“perceived” trump success. It’s only perception that my take home pay went up, it’s only perception that our 401ks are through the roof and part of that is because of his pro growth policies, and it’s perception that he’s appointing judges who will be guided by the constitution rather than by personal activism. no reality, all perception.
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[Got Stripers]

As always your metric for success is tied to the market and your precious 401K, everyone has a different view of whether this conman is an American success story, yours is yours, that however doesn't make it mine.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

“perceived” trump success. It’s only perception that my take home pay went up, it’s only perception that our 401ks are through the roof and part of that is because of his pro growth policies, and it’s perception that he’s appointing judges who will be guided by the constitution rather than by personal activism. no reality, all perception.
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Jim, is it also your perception that quality public servants are being cleaned out and replaced by inexperienced sycophants to not question the President’s bidding?

Is it your perception that decorated veterans are being punished and shamed for upholding their oaths to the constitution, something you know a bit about.

Is it your perception that Trump is once again trying to gaslight the entire country about Russian election meddling contrary to our entire national security organizations and congressional duty to receive such information.

Is it?

You’re worried about your 401k, I’m worried about our Country.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

As always your metric for success is tied to the market and your precious 401K, everyone has a different view of whether this conman is an American success story, yours is yours, that however doesn't make it mine.

i mentioned judges as well, probably the single most important thing a president does. our national security is also in good shape.

you’re all desperate to ignore the economy, because you can’t handle the job economic success ushered by a guy you despise. but regular people aren’t going to pretend the economy isn’t doing well.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, is it also your perception that quality public servants are being cleaned out and replaced by inexperienced sycophants to not question the President’s bidding?

Is it your perception that decorated veterans are being punished and shamed for upholding their oaths to the constitution, something you know a bit about.

Is it your perception that Trump is once again trying to gaslight the entire country about Russian election meddling contrary to our entire national security organizations and congressional duty to receive such information.

Is it?

You’re worried about your 401k, I’m worried about our Country.
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i concede that some good people have left because of trump, and that he says stupid and outlandish things. i am willing to tolerate that if it means national security is in good shape and that i can retire a year earlier because of what my ira is doing, and if he’s appointing judges who aren’t political activists. i don’t look to him to be any kind of role model for personal ethos. the side benefit is watching democrats willingly humiliate themselves every single day, but that’s just the cherry on top.

i want my mechanic to be able to fix
my car. i don’t especially care if he cheats on his wife or if he says loathsome things. when my wife is driving my kids around, i only care that the car is safe and reliable.

Similarly i want my potus to grow the economy, to kill terrorists, to look out for the unborn, and to appoint judges who abide by the constitution.

i’m results oriented. not style oriented. i hate his style, but care more about his results. you deny the results and obsess over style.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, is it also your perception that quality public servants are being cleaned out and replaced by inexperienced sycophants to not question the President’s bidding?

Is it your perception that decorated veterans are being punished and shamed for upholding their oaths to the constitution, something you know a bit about.

Is it your perception that Trump is once again trying to gaslight the entire country about Russian election meddling contrary to our entire national security organizations and congressional duty to receive such information.

Is it?

You’re worried about your 401k, I’m worried about our Country.
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It's all Transactional with Trump supporters it's a quid pro quo my 401k is doing well , and judges ( whom they think wont follow the law but be ttheir activist judges ) and for that, they will ignore everything else ..

So when things go south and historical they do. What will be their reason of support

Integrity, honesty, his love of God, family values, his compassion , none of theses will be the reason , it will be victimhood and oh how the deepstate plotted against him bla bla bla .

Today they have no issues with Nunes telling Trump hes
Intel director doesn't have his back , or Trump firing his appointee for telling congress the Russians are at it again .. because it looks bad for him and puts a puppet in is place .. looks a lot like how other country's operate , but his supporters again have no issues it's just getting rid of Obama hold overs ...

America 1st my ass

[Sea Dangles]

He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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[scottw]

moderate democrats will be voting for TRUMP in November...

[Jim in CT]

wdmso, i jeep sating i don’t like how he handles people, you keep saying i don’t care. i do care, but i care more about results.

“when things go south”.

when is that going to happen? do you know? what indicators do you see that suggest things are heading south because of trump? if that happens, i’ll be the first to hold him accountable. i can’t predict the future like you can.

you’re blaming him for things that haven’t happened.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

moderate democrats will be voting for TRUMP in November...

the black ones just might. if he gets 15% of the black vote, he can’t lose. i can not wait to see that number.
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