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Old 09-06-2019, 11:23 AM   #181
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Where were the complaints when Obama used these same exact facilities, and separated families in the same way? Answer that, please...

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Jim, he didn't ... seriously do some homework.
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Must be a snowflake.

Congressman Will Hurd of Texas is an increasingly lonely voice in the “build the wall” Republican Party of Donald Trump. A 41-year-old former undercover CIA officer, Hurd represents one of the largest congressional districts in America, Texas’ 23rd, a vast expanse of land roughly the size of Georgia that stretches from San Antonio to El Paso.

Hurd’s district includes 820 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border, more than any other member of the House of Representatives. But if you’re expecting Hurd, who was narrowly re-elected to a third term last year, to support President Trump’s “big, beautiful wall” and stand with the decision to partially shut down the federal government over the fight, you’ve got it all wrong. Trump’s border crisis is a “myth,” Hurd tells Rolling Stone, and a wall made of cement or steel slats is a “third-century solution to a 21st-century problem.”


“What I always say is building a wall from sea to shining sea is the most expensive and least effective way to do border security,” Hurd says.

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Jim, he didn't ... seriously do some homework.
fact-check.org says between 2010 and 2016, about 500,000 illegals were referred for prosecution.! they were allowed to bring their kids?

spence, the most widely circulated photo the left used, to show what a monster trump is on this issue, turned out to have been taken during the obama administration.

nothing but hypocrisy and fake, politically motivated outrage.
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fact-check.org says between 2010 and 2016, about 500,000 illegals were referred for prosecution.! they were allowed to bring their kids?

spence, the most widely circulated photo the left used, to show what a monster trump is on this issue, turned out to have been taken during the obama administration.

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Nothing but lies and fake, politically motivated outrage from you.

Did you actually look on fact-check.org?

If you did you would have found the following and by looking further you could eliminate most of the half-truths you repeat.

Falsehoods About Family Separations Linger Online
By Angelo Fichera

Posted on August 27, 2019

Quick Take
A viral social media post falsely claims that former President Barack Obama “separated” many more children at the border than President Donald Trump.

Full Story
The Trump administration announced a new rule on Aug. 21 that would allow the U.S. government to detain immigrant families that illegally cross the border for longer periods of time than currently permitted. It’s the latest attempt by the administration to deter illegal immigration.

That rule would keep families detained together, instead of being released pending a court date. And it avoids the issue of children being separated from their parents, which occurred in large numbers last year as a result a Trump administration policy that referred “100 percent of illegal Southwest Border crossings to the Department of Justice for prosecution.”

Online, though, misinformation about such separations lingers: One deceptive social media post, shared more than 120,000 times on Facebook, erroneously claims that former President Barack Obama separated many more children than President Donald Trump did.

“1900 children separated from parents at border,” the text reads next to a photo of Trump. “Result – Media Frenzy.”

Next to a photo of Obama, it reads: “89,000 children separated from parents at border. Result – Silence.”

As we’ve written before, there were some separations under the Obama administration, but no blanket policy to prosecute parents and, therefore, separate them from their children.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ inspector general released a report in January noting that, “historically” such family “separations were rare and occurred because of circumstances such as the parent’s medical emergency or a determination that the parent was a threat to the child’s safety.”

But, the report notes, that changed as a result of the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy last spring. The Department of Homeland Security “separated large numbers of alien families, with adults being held in Federal detention while their children were transferred to the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) within the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS),” according to the report.

That report also said the department had “thus far identified 2,737 children in its care at that time who were separated from their parents. However, thousands of children may have been separated during an influx that began in 2017 … and HHS has faced challenges in identifying separated children.” The government is under a court order to identify other children who had been separated, but either way, we know the total far surpasses the 1,900 figure used in the meme.

As for the number of children who were separated under Obama, there have been no official figures released — but, as we said, the HHS inspector general noted that such separations were rare.

The “89,000” figure used in the meme is similar to previous claims that “90,000” children were separated under Obama — a number the Associated Press last year pointed out may have been incorrectly pulled from a 2016 Senate report. The report said that, since the beginning of fiscal year 2014, the Obama administration had placed “almost 90,000” unaccompanied children “with sponsors in the United States.”

At the time, the U.S. was experiencing an influx of unaccompanied children arriving at the border from Central America. The “90,000” figure largely represented children who had arrived at the border without a parent or guardian (though, as we said earlier, there may have been limited cases in which children were separated for the child’s safety).

That process for releasing unaccompanied children to sponsors continues. For reference, HHS data show that 133,502 unaccompanied children were released to sponsors during the 36 months between October 2013 and September 2016. The figure for the 33 months from October 2016 to June 2019 (the most recent data available) was 132,340.

Amid backlash, Trump ended the widespread practice of family separations through an executive order in June 2018. Court filings show that some separations have continued to occur.

The administration’s new rule to detain families until their cases are complete would replace the 1997 Flores settlement agreement, which has limited the circumstances and duration for which children can be detained to about 20 days. The government would be able to use certain Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which are not licensed by the states, to house families together.

Attorneys in the Flores case have already signaled they will challenge the rule; a federal judge in California is expected to determine whether it lives up to the settlement agreement.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/fa...linger-online/

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/05/tr...-on-democrats/

If you actually go to factcheck.org and put separation into the search engine you can find more similar to the above.

But that wouldn't fit your agenda of Orangeman good (but I don't really like him and that leaves me an opening if it doesn't work out) and anyone who opposes Trump and the sycophants in his house of misfit toys is a snowflake, cuck, socialist, liberal, etc.

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If it makes America stronger and safer the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s go haywire.
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why i they cannot violalate the constitution when it pleases them.
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You mean like Trump who believes he owns the power of the purse and not congress as intended by the constitution.
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how well are the ones all ready there working?? and you want billions more to spend on something that wont do what you say it will ...

you shut your door at night ... (omg the world has had doors for centuries.. didn't know they were to keep mexicans out?? ) what a simpleton view of the world I can see how Trump appeals to you and the base ...
i’d wager the walls are working where they exist. i’ll wager most illegal immigration takes place where there are no walls.

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"This (AP) story has been corrected to reflect that Alabama WAS included in charts mentioning wind speed probabilities from August 28 to August 31. The story previously said it was not."

AP Agency reverses course on Trump’s Alabama hurricane claim


The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration issued a statement that information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to the president had demonstrated that “tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama.” The advisories were dated from last Wednesday, Aug. 28, through Monday, the statement read.

Friday’s NOAA statement, points to graphics issued by the National Hurricane Center to support Trump’s claims. The maps show percentage possibility of tropical storm force winds in the United States. Parts of Alabama were covered, usually with 5% to 10% chances, between Aug. 27 and Sept. 3. Maps on Aug. 30 grew to cover far more of Alabama.
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Not a single word in the NOAA statement backs up Trump’s claim on Sunday that Alabama “will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

Only a malignant narcissist would be unable to admit they too cannot predict the weather and be obsessed with it for close to a week, so far, keeping the story alive.

Yesterday the Stable Genius tweeted this, perhaps he was worried about the late night comics having to find new material.

The Fake News Media was fixated on the fact that I properly said, at the beginnings of Hurricane Dorian, that in addition to Florida & other states, Alabama may also be grazed or hit. They went Crazy, hoping against hope that I made a mistake (which I didn’t). Check out maps.....
....This nonsense has never happened to another President. Four days of corrupt reporting, still without an apology. But there are many things that the Fake News Media has not apologized to me for, like the Witch Hunt, or SpyGate! The LameStream Media and their Democrat.....
....partner should start playing it straight. It would be so much better for our Country!
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Not a single word in the NOAA statement backs up Trump’s claim on Sunday that Alabama “will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

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he's not a meteorologist and they get it wrong all the time...triggered snowflakes a need to settle down
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he's not a meteorologist and they get it wrong all the time...triggered snowflakes a need to settle down
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Only a malignant narcissist would be unable to admit they too cannot predict the weather and be obsessed with it for close to a week, so far, keeping the story alive.
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You mean like Trump who believes he owns the power of the purse and not congress as intended by the constitution.
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Congress funded the military. The President is commander in chief of the military, and directs how the military and how its resources will be deployed in defense of the nation. Congress is comprised of the House and the Senate. The Senate plus the President can override the House. Which Constitution are you talking about?
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he likes to keep you busy cutting and pasting
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I can't believe the military is using premium gasoline??? that is disgraceful
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He’s losing it.

“President Donald Trump's aides and confidants are growing more and more worried about his mental state after days of erratic behavior, wild outbursts, and bizarre fixations.”

As of Friday evening, Trump had posted 15 tweets and five maps about Alabama and the storm to try to prove his original tweet was correct, despite the fact that he'd been publicly rebuked by the National Weather Service.
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Hey if Trump looses in 2020, he can always get a job as a weatherman, or I really think he would be the super sharpie sales rep for the eastern US. Nobody draws a better black fake wind field circle than Trump.
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Hey if Trump looses in 2020, he can always get a job as a weatherman, or I really think he would be the super sharpie sales rep for the eastern US. Nobody draws a better black fake wind field circle than Trump.
I thought it was great that the triggered dummies at CNN, while attacking trump managed to mistake Alabama for Mississippi...you'd think that a high-minded, more highly educated American news organizations would know the difference
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This seems like a fuss over nothing. So I haven't paid it any attention. Did Trump predict the weather? Or was he interpreting or regurgitating what he thought the weather folks said? Did Trump actually say that he can predict the weather better than or without the forecast of weather experts?

It seems that a great portion of our population is infected by a malignant anti-Trumpism which sadistically reacts against just about everything Trump does or says.
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What’s next? Will the National Air and Space Museum construct exhibits on the significance of military aviation during the Revolutionary War?
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This seems like a fuss over nothing. So I haven't paid it any attention. Did Trump predict the weather? Or was he interpreting or regurgitating what he thought the weather folks said? Did Trump actually say that he can predict the weather better than or without the forecast of weather experts?.
As of Friday evening, Trump had posted 15 tweets and five maps about Alabama and the storm to try to prove his original tweet was correct, despite the fact that he'd been publicly rebuked by the National Weather Service.
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How can we not be caught up in it, it's something stupid or dumb coming out of his mouth or twitter account week after week and when he gets called out on something he got totally wrong he reverts back to his childhood. Only a child caught in a lie takes out a sharpie to recreate the hurricane track to make his lie the truth.

You MR. (Detbuch) CONSTITUTION, you seem to be OK with Trump steeling money from the military to build his wall. The constitution was set up to prevent authoritarian leadership to have control over our tax payer money, yet now apparently you don't see a problem with him taking control of the purse. Where are you now when our Potus is ignoring the intent of the constitution, or is it as I've stated before; the means justify the ends and a rule bent here or there is ok?
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Do you mean stealing $?
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I thought it was great that the triggered dummies at CNN, while attacking trump managed to mistake Alabama for Mississippi...you'd think that a high-minded, more highly educated American news organizations would know the difference
False equivalence, if they had then started tweeting and claiming that Alabama was once or really Mississippi, they’d be in line with Trump’s behavior.
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I wasn't making an equivalence...false accusation of false equivalence..I just pointed out that the dummies at CNN don't know the difference or they were so desperately triggered to attack trump that they made themselves look dumber than trump which is par for the course in scotland
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@JRubinBlogger wields her Magnum Sharpie to connect the dots. “And so it is that a map, covered widely by news media and used for comedic fodder by late-night comedians, has entrapped Trump in a web of his own lies, obsessions and insecurities.”
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I see a clear pattern from our resident Trump Supporters and liberal haters

Most of their responses are canned responses as if they cant articulate a reasonable argument that is Fact base .. aka TDS, snowflake , spelling

you think Climate change is real . ( response its a hoax and it any attempts to fix will destroy the economy and our way of life happens all the time ) evidence non provided

support gun control even if you own a gun and have a license to carry ( response you want to take our guns and rights seizure ) evidence none provided

Against a wall but not against fixing the issue (response you support open borders or illegal immigration ) evidence none provided

Against police who shoot unarmed people ( response you hate the police or do as your told )

Trump changing the forecast map, lying daily Pence staying at Tump property in Ireland so on and so forth , Trump supporters oddly enough have nothing to say about theses topic .. ( other than the canned TDS or snowflakes)

they only have comments towards those who highlight their existence... they even ignoring their past paper trail of written words exposing their Hypocrisy .. some who had extensive detailed posts who now only only conduct Drive by post's others who feel 1 or 2 critical post for or against response is all it takes to show objectivity with hundreds of post in 1 direction ..

Clearly My Views of the Direction Trump is taking the USA (not talking economy) is a road to Nationalism hiding behind Patriotism...

and will be seen by the cult personalties or Trump supporters as hating America again with no evidence given


A cult of personality, or cult of the leader,[1] arises when a country's regime – or, more rarely, an individual – uses the techniques of mass media, propaganda, the big lie, spectacle, the arts, patriotism, and government-organized demonstrations and rallies to create an idealized, heroic, and worshipful image of a leader, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.

And here I thought this ^^^^^ couldn't happen in America How wrong i was

NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Threat In Alabama (don't question the leader .. fact not one forecasting map had the hurricane map any where Alabama...



After the president's tweet, the National Weather Service, in Birmingham, Ala., responded with its own tweet, saying "Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east."

they also must be trying to embarrass Trump liberal operatives have infiltrated the national weather service in Alabama .. its the only logical explanation

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this is dumb...trump did provide the dummies with something to blabber on about mindlessly and endlessly though....marker gate.....he and his family are probably robbing the bank while the dummies talk about magic markers
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