Can the Stable Genius spin the Coronavirus missteps

[Pete F.]

He and his cohort certainly keep trying.

McConnell just said on Hewitt that impeachment diverted the attention of the government in Jan while virus was developing, paraphrasing but thrust is correct.

Strange considering Trump* said he knew it was a pandemic from the beginning, but if Trump* & GOP couldn’t defend against a legitimate impeachment inquiry & protect the country from COVID-19, then they‘re not equipped to lead. The rest of us multi-task and Presidents have in the past, many thru far more extensive and longer investigations and impeachments than this one has been subjected to.

But the best way to obliterate McConnell's claim that impeachment distracted Trump* is for reporters to ask the Stable Genius, "Is it true you weren't able to govern the country for two months?" Trump* won't be able to say yes -- he'll brag that he was amazing and doing things better than ever. That's just what malignant narcissist's do.

We now find ourselves in the same place as with the Ukraine scandal, where they are testing various "defenses" to see what sticks. First it was that the virus was a Democratic hoax, then it was the "Chinese" virus to play squirrel, next Obama did it, then wartime president, onto great ratings, off to stealing supplies that they exaggerated the need for and now it's impeachment waa waa

[Slipknot]

nobody is perfect Pete, you have time to read this. I am not saying it is verified truth but sure is interesting.

https://nationalinterest.org/feature...navirus-130877


"It’s time to reverse the globalist sellout of America that has put Beijing in charge of our drug supply chain."
That should be obvious to all of us, I saw it coming when Ross Perot spoke of the giant s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g sound. Greed, all greed. Warren Buffet and all those other uber rich cronies have profited from this crisis while us working stiffs see our investments plummet,that is a fact.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

nobody is perfect Pete, you have time to read this. I am not saying it is verified truth but sure is interesting.

https://nationalinterest.org/feature...navirus-130877


"It’s time to reverse the globalist sellout of America that has put Beijing in charge of our drug supply chain."
That should be obvious to all of us, I saw it coming when Ross Perot spoke of the giant s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g sound. Greed, all greed. Warren Buffet and all those other uber rich cronies have profited from this crisis while us working stiffs see our investments plummet,that is a fact.

what drug is china holding hostage to plunge America into Covid 19

more China is the new enemy ..... unless you want to nationalize us industries . everything else is noise

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

what drug is china holding hostage to plunge America into Covid 19

more China is the new enemy ..... unless you want to nationalize us industries . everything else is noise

Who do you believe is our biggest global adversary at the moment?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Who do you believe is our biggest global adversary at the moment?

The 1% who make money off of overseeing the outsourcing our industries with the knowledge that our government has put in place a way to make that a profitable venture.

The biggest global adversary to the strength of our nation is our corrupt politicians who have enabled this broken system. It’s that simple.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The 1% who make money off of overseeing the outsourcing our industries with the knowledge that our government has put in place a way to make that a profitable venture.

The biggest global adversary to the strength of our nation is our corrupt politicians who have enabled this broken system. It’s that simple.
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Outside of our borders, who is our biggest adversary?

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by wdmso

more China is the new enemy .....

they have been a bigger enemy than Russia and even N Korea even before rocketman. We have done it to ourselves

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The 1% who make money off of overseeing the outsourcing our industries with the knowledge that our government has put in place a way to make that a profitable venture.

The biggest global adversary to the strength of our nation is our corrupt politicians who have enabled this broken system. It’s that simple.
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rich and powerful, yes it's that simple

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Outside of our borders, who is our biggest adversary?

According to Trump the world is our economic enemy , our military enemies are russia Or Iran North Korea or china. This hasn't changed in 50 years


Inside our borders ...clearly its Democrats, the media execpt Fox illegals BLM Antifa and anyone who doesn't bend the knee or those who don't go to church

[Pete F.]

I don't expect perfection, just the basic ability to pay attention and guide a bureaucracy. The ability to multi task is assumed.

A bizarre aspect of Trump* loyalists seems to be their ability to exist in a world made fresh each day with no collective memory. It’s a goldfish like quality. If today Trump* says the sky is blue, that he spent months calling it green no longer exists.

The CDC issued its first warning on Jan 8

Trump* held campaign rallies on Jan 9, Jan 14, Jan 28, Jan 30, Feb 10, Feb 19, Feb 20, Feb 21 & Feb 28 and what did he say about Covid-19 in them?

He golfed on Jan 18, Jan 19, Feb 1, Feb 15, Mar 7 & Mar 8, I guarantee you there's a tweet from him about prior Presidents for that

The first time he admitted the coronavirus might be a problem was Mar 13.
I don't believe for one second that he was not informed of what was going on in China every step of the way. If he was somehow isolated from the information someone should hang.
Just think what might have happened if the WH had held press conferences and been asked what they were doing about the threat of pandemic from China. Or would that have been a "nasty question" from fake news?

As far as the article goes, I guess you have to decide if you want to be:

A socialist country, where the government gets to choose what people can make, where they can buy and who they can sell to, it would be for the good of the people, of course.

Or sorta kinda socialist suggestion that a government agency(s) be responsible for the development and manufacture of (some) pharmaceuticals?
That have to be made in America.
Just do a federal construction project where you have to make sure that all the steel, etc. needs to be made in USA, see how much more it costs and source it on time. Just how did that work out for the Steel industry? And are Americans willing to pay the added cost?

Or do you want a free market economy?

Last year Forbes looked at what was going on in the US-China market and why.

For all-around emerging market manufacturing know-how, for reliability, for currency stability, for safety and for domestic market growth, China is No. 1. The rest are more like No. 100.

Last week, one of the biggest lobby groups for American multinationals in China, the U.S. China Business Council, put out their annual member survey. China was still as profitable or more so than other emerging markets where they have set up shop or source supply.

Only 3% said they were relocating to the U.S. because of tariffs. Under 7% said they were leaving China.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo.../#1c02c24871de

[Slipknot]

March 13th?
you believe that?

Why would he restrict travel as early as January 31st?

as usual, paint the picture how you see fit to degrade the guy
wasn't he also defending himself thru this by far left Dems like yourself?

I think everyone should work together but life is hard and I see the left as always wanting to take the easy road in their problem solving areas of governing. It's that simple why when it comes to certain policy that people side one way or the other.

The country set up monopolies shipping manufacturing and control overseas long ago, we could have kept some here.

Pretty sure we will get thru this Pete, be positive. There will be plenty of blame to go around. Be smart and be safe.

[Nebe]

Jim, China and the US have a symbiotic relationship. China is the parasite and the US is the host. Trump never pointed the finger at the full problem. The finger he pointed at was that the tick was getting bloated off the dog. When he did not say was the owner of the dog was too cheap to pay for the frontline to be applied to protect the dog in the first place. All he did was say that the ticks were bad and we were going to charge more for the dog food
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

March 13th?
you believe that?

Why would he restrict travel as early as January 31st?

As Azar explained when he announced the travel restrictions on Jan. 31, the policy prohibits non-U.S. citizens, other than the immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents, who have traveled to China within the last two weeks from entering the U.S.

At a House subcommittee hearing on the coronavirus on Feb. 5, Ron Klain, White House Ebola response coordinator under the Obama administration, took issue with the characterization of the travel restrictions as a travel “ban.”

“We don’t have a travel ban,” Klain said. “We have a travel Band-Aid right now. First, before it was imposed, 300,000 people came here from China in the previous month. So, the horse is out of the barn.”

“There’s no restriction on Americans going back and forth,” Klain said. “There are warnings. People should abide by those warnings. But today, 30 planes will land in Los Angeles that either originated in Beijing or came here on one-stops, 30 in San Francisco, 25 in New York City. Okay? So, unless we think that the color of the passport someone carries is a meaningful public health restriction, we have not placed a meaningful public health restriction.”

Indeed, on Jan. 24, a week before the travel restrictions, the CDC confirmed two cases of the novel coronavirus in the U.S. from people who had returned from Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began.

as usual, paint the picture how you see fit to degrade the guy
wasn't he also defending himself thru this by far left Dems like yourself?

I think everyone should work together but life is hard and I see the left as always wanting to take the easy road in their problem solving areas of governing. It's that simple why when it comes to certain policy that people side one way or the other.

The country set up monopolies shipping manufacturing and control overseas long ago, we could have kept some here.

Pretty sure we will get thru this Pete, be positive. There will be plenty of blame to go around. Be smart and be safe.

Defending himself from what?

On January 22, Trump claimed that the virus was “one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

On February 2, he told Sean Hannity: “We pretty much shut it down…”

On February 5, he was acquitted by the Senate.

On February 9, he suggested that warm weather in April would “kill the virus.”

On February 26, faced with statements by public health officials that the virus was spreading, he assured Americans that “We’re going very substantially down, not up… We could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time.”

On February 27, he predicted: “It’s going to disappear. One day—it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”

On February 28 he added, “So far we have lost nobody to coronavirus.”

And why would we? On that same day he informed people at one of his campaign rallies that the virus was the Democrats’ “new hoax”—merely a cynical sequel to impeachment and the Mueller investigation.

Besides, he said on March 3, our “great companies” were “going to have vaccines, I think, relatively soon.” This baseless prognosis was amended by Dr. Anthony Fauci : “ “relatively”, it transpires, actually means “a year to a year and a half.”

As the virus kept extending its fatal reach, so did Trump – resorting to yet more disinformation, manipulation, and demonstrable lies.

Faced with the World Health Organization’s prediction of a 3.4 percent death rate, on March 4, Trump told Sean Hannity “I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number… I would say the number is way under 1 percent.”

Besides, he assured the country on March 6, “anybody that needs a test can have a test.” This particular fabrication was so blatant that his own HHS secretary was forced to retract it.

On March 7, Trump said breezily “I’m not concerned at all,” that the virus might be getting closer to the White House, adding: “We’ve done a great job.” A day later, his new chief-of-staff self-quarantined.

Bobbing and weaving, on March 13 he falsely claimed that Google was developing a website “to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location ” -which, apparently, was conveniently located in his own head.

On March 15, Trump belatedly allowed at a press briefing: “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something we have tremendous control of.” Yet again the commendable Dr. Fauci felt compelled to refute him – this time in Trump’s presence – by saying, “The worst is, yes, ahead for us.”

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

March 13th?
you believe that?

Why would he restrict travel as early as January 31st?

as usual, paint the picture how you see fit to degrade the guy
wasn't he also defending himself thru this by far left Dems like yourself?

I think everyone should work together but life is hard and I see the left as always wanting to take the easy road in their problem solving areas of governing. It's that simple why when it comes to certain policy that people side one way or the other.

The country set up monopolies shipping manufacturing and control overseas long ago, we could have kept some here.

Pretty sure we will get thru this Pete, be positive. There will be plenty of blame to go around. Be smart and be safe.

The other part is shipping monopolies and manufacturing controls.

The USA is 20th in shipping and drops further down every year.

The last wacko tariff try, the Smoots Hawley Act, at best exacerbated the Great Depression and reduced US trade by 67%.

History will tell what the effects of Trump*s tariffs were.

Congress, not the President needs to do the job that the Constitution gives it thru the Commerce Clause and control trade if it needs to be controlled at all.