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scottw · 08-21-2011, 07:25 AM

AUTOWEEK
CAR NEWS 3/30/2009

U.S. will guarantee GM, Chrysler warranties, Obama says

"Let me say this as plainly as I can. If you buy a car from Chrysler or General Motors, you will be able to get your car serviced and repaired just like always," Obama said in a speech. "Your warranty will be safe. In fact, it will be safer than it has ever been. Because starting today, the United States will stand behind your warranty."

Any funds for the warranty program will come from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) provided by Congress, according to White House fact sheet on warrantees that was distributed last night

GM says bankruptcy excuses it from Impala repairs

Wed, Aug 17 2011

By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK, Aug 19 (Reuters) - General Motors Co (GM.N) is seeking to dismiss a lawsuit over a suspension problem on more than 400,000 Chevrolet Impalas from the 2007 and 2008 model years, saying it should not be responsible for repairs because the flaw predated its bankruptcy.

THE DETROIT NEWS
August 18. 2011

GM hits new low

David Shepardson/ Detroit News Washington Bureau

General Motors Co. hit a new low closing price since going public in November, ending the day at $23.60, down $1.34, or 5.3 percent. GM's struggling shares also set a new intraday low of $23.30 before recovering slightly. GM is down 28 percent over its IPO and down 22 percent since July 22.

At the current price, taxpayers could lose nearly $15 billion on their $49.5 billion bailout of the Detroit automaker. The government's 500 million shares — or a 26 percent stake — declined in value by nearly $700 million Thursday.

The government's sale of its remaining shares isn't likely anytime soon

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AUTOWEEK 3/30/2009

Obama also on Monday said he will work with Congress to try to fund credits for consumers who turn in old cars and buy cleaner, more fuel-efficient automobiles.

Programs of this kind "have been successful in boosting auto sales in a number of European countries," Obama said the news conference.

August 17, 2011

Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers
By JIM MOTAVALLI

Costco, the membership warehouse-club chain, was an early leader in offering electric-vehicle charging to its customers, setting an example followed by other retailers, including Best Buy and Walgreen. By 2006, Costco had installed 90 chargers at 64 stores, mostly in California but also some in Arizona, New York and Georgia. Even after General Motors crushed its EV1 battery cars, the Costco chargers stayed in place.

Costco is reversing course and pulling its chargers out of the ground, explaining that customers do not use them.

Chevrolet Volt monthly U.S. sales (2010–2011)

2011
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
321 281 608 493 481 561 125

2010
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
326 326

and this is WITH a $7500 government rebate incentive!!!
The first 200,000 Volts sold will qualify for a US$7,500 federal tax credit, which effectively reduces the MSRP to US$33,500

so with only about 3000 sold...plenty of govmint subsidy left

UserRemoved · 08-21-2011, 08:15 AM

I read that this morning and laughed. Once again SNOWBAMA proves why he's a bad president. I'm affected by this too.
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Raider Ronnie · 08-21-2011, 06:49 PM

MARK MY WORDS, THE AMERICAN BIG 3S DAYS ARE NUMBERED !
20 years from now maybe Ford will be around, the other 2 forget about.
0 kids today (Y generation 18-30) are buying any of them.

basswipe · 08-23-2011, 07:13 PM

This thread is moot.Ford and Toyota are now partners in developing REAL hybrids.

Ford And Toyota To Develop Rear-Wheel Drive Hybrids Together

Earthquakes and Depressions breed strange bed partners.Can't wait to see Huyndai and Kia,the two cheepest piece of crap vehicles ever to be built go belly-up.

Toyota got the biggest flush down the toilet by the Obama admin for what was in the end a fabricated recall for "stuck accelators" for the best built cars/trucks on the planet......imagine that.

In the end Ford paid back its "loan" and by partnering with Toyota gave Obama the "One Fingered Salute" he so deseverdly earned.Ford actually took some forward thinking intitiative without Obama's consent and will actually make American autos great again and Obama will have had zero to do with it.

Win/Win for America!

likwid · 08-23-2011, 07:50 PM

And Hybrids still can't match the mileage of TDI.

Suckerssssssssss

trevier · 08-23-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid

And Hybrids still can't match the mileage of TDI.

Suckerssssssssss

no they can't,

buckman · 08-24-2011, 04:27 AM

Obama has a clear pattern of BS. I wouldn't believe a word he says.

basswipe · 08-24-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid

And Hybrids still can't match the mileage of TDI.

Suckerssssssssss

But that's the whole point of the Ford/Toyota venture.They will exceed the mileage and then some.Suckers nothing.....this venture will actually produce engines that make the TDI look like a guzzler.Screw German engineering,wouldn't you rather see US made cars outperforming VW in the fuel economy category?

Currently other than the TDI motor VW's suck.

FishermanTim · 08-24-2011, 04:53 PM

Ford didn't take any bailout money.

The rest literally begged for bailout money.

JohnnyD · 08-24-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim

Ford didn't take any bailout money.

The rest literally begged for bailout money.

Ford has all those cushy government contracts which probably helped.

justplugit · 08-25-2011, 07:34 AM

Doesn't hurt that the F-series pickups have out sold every other
pickup in it's class since the early 90's and is the only one that
has increased sales since 2008.

They make a great truck.

UserRemoved1 · 09-23-2011, 01:12 PM

HE LIED

They're refusing to service pre-O'bama vehicles on a case by case basis.

I have first hand information from today.

AZZHOLES :smash

tysdad115 · 09-23-2011, 01:21 PM

Who is refusing ? GM ? I have first hand knowledge too...every day, GM isn't refusing any repairs.

striperman36 · 09-23-2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit

Doesn't hurt that the F-series pickups have out sold every other
pickup in it's class since the early 90's and is the only one that
has increased sales since 2008.

They make a great truck.

With single digit gas mileage
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UserRemoved1 · 09-23-2011, 02:53 PM

Tysdad I heard it from the horses mouth. I have no reason not to believe him I've known the guy for 20 years?

tysdad115 · 09-23-2011, 03:42 PM

I'm a service manager at a GM dealership. Have been for seven years. The dealer empowerment has increased hugely. In no way has anything been put out stating to deny any coverage on any vehicle if that is what your being told.

UserRemoved1 · 09-23-2011, 04:05 PM

10-4 tnx. I own two. I'm being raped for a vane position sensor in my lly g van right now. Also told Tech 2 is the only thing out there that can diagnose this supposedly by moving the turbo and watching the signal ecm voltage.

$700 dealer only part plus labor.

I hate this #^&#^&#^&#^&. And I'm about to buy another.

Karl F · 09-24-2011, 10:17 PM

well, from the blue oval POV.. my wife's 06 Mountaineer, went to Ford with an issue, and it is off warranty, but we have the extended, (100 detuctable) that we negotiated into the sale when we bought it new...dealer called all fixed, pick it up, ready to fork over the C-note, and the service writer says, "No Charge, computer shows that the Mercury (when they were still around) dealer fixed this once when on warranty, second round, same issue, on Ford. And if it comes up again, we will address it again."
Thank You!

justplugit · 09-25-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by striperman36

With single digit gas mileage
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Depends on the engine, i have a 305 that gives me 15 around town
and 19 on a trip. Modified with duals and K+N FI air filter.

tysdad115 · 09-25-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

10-4 tnx. I own two. I'm being raped for a vane position sensor in my lly g van right now. Also told Tech 2 is the only thing out there that can diagnose this supposedly by moving the turbo and watching the signal ecm voltage.

$700 dealer only part plus labor.

I hate this #^&#^&#^&#^&. And I'm about to buy another.

That has a 5 year 100k warranty on it, you should look me up I can help you out with that. As a business owner and frequent GM customer you deserve some assistance.
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UserRemoved1 · 09-25-2011, 12:28 PM

5.5 years old. 60,585 mileage. They say select emissions components only. I say it's not even the sensor the truck has a serious history of doing "possessed" things...as in check lights, tranny codes, abs, low water, low fuel, etc etc.

Karl F · 09-25-2011, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit

Depends on the engine, i have a 305 that gives me 15 around town
and 19 on a trip. Modified with duals and K+N FI air filter.

Dave, when did you take out the Ford 302, and put a chevy 305 in ???

or did you somehow find a way to punch it out and only gain 3 cubic inches????

my old F150 with the 4.6 got somewhere between 12 and 15 around town, and up to 22 on the highway, depending on how heavy the right foot was

..the wifes old expedtion with the 5.4 was the same...my now truck superduty, with the 5.4 gets an honest 11 around town, and 17 on the highway, but, it is a heavier vehicle, and geared lower...but it is nice to be driving a real truck again

tysdad115 · 09-25-2011, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

5.5 years old. 60,585 mileage. They say select emissions components only. I say it's not even the sensor the truck has a serious history of doing "possessed" things...as in check lights, tranny codes, abs, low water, low fuel, etc etc.

All the more reason to give you assistance. We've sold alot of those and don't have that many problems with them. Although we have replaced a couple turbos on the vans. The vane position sensor didn't fix them, the vanes in turbo stick when commanded..Have replaced maybe 2 turbos since they came out. My shops in Wareham, I can help you if they wont.
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UserRemoved1 · 09-25-2011, 03:35 PM

I think the problem is all electric but they're gonna hit me with whatever. I'll keep you in mind. Its there now so it's not going anywhere.

justplugit · 09-25-2011, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl F

Dave, when did you take out the Ford 302, and put a chevy 305 in ???

or did you somehow find a way to punch it out and only gain 3 cubic inches????

my old F150 with the 4.6 got somewhere between 12 and 15 around town, and up to 22 on the highway, depending on how heavy the right foot was

Karl, I didn't. I think I'm losing it, thats like the 3rd mistake I made
posting this week.

Ya, you were getting that mileage when gas prices started rising and you had
that egg under your gas pedal.

I should double post this for Clammer.

UserRemoved · 09-26-2011, 09:43 AM

Gimme a call if you have a chance 5085618652

They aren't budging.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysdad115

All the more reason to give you assistance. We've sold alot of those and don't have that many problems with them. Although we have replaced a couple turbos on the vans. The vane position sensor didn't fix them, the vanes in turbo stick when commanded..Have replaced maybe 2 turbos since they came out. My shops in Wareham, I can help you if they wont.
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UserRemoved1 · 09-26-2011, 03:50 PM

$902 and picking up tomorrow. I passed along your comment about them not doing me any favors...that went over like a lead balloon.
Soon as I get the vin tomorrow I call Obama motors... screw this. Last truck I ever buy there and I'm going to make sure the salesman knows it too.

UserRemoved · 09-27-2011, 10:22 AM

Picked up today got 12 miles. Abs light and security light within seconds of each other. And the sensor is NOT shorted.

45 minutes on the phone with o'bamas homeland this morning. Next is dispute the 902$ charge. Salesman grabbed me on the way in I said sorry that's now 7 gm vehicles I've bought through your dealer. Not again.

Anyone wanna buy this piece of crap? I'm done with Obamamotors.
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JohnR · 09-27-2011, 11:04 AM

Not a fan of Obama but can you still separate Obama from what this is: an issue with a truck at a dealership.

It sucks and I do hope you get it resolved but one has nothing to do with the other.

tysdad115 · 09-27-2011, 11:33 AM

Certainly not knocking anyone but the truck has an issue that dealer can't fix. No denying the trucks problem, but what's the dealers problem? Techs not trained? Or inexperienced?
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