Roy Moore / Al Franken

[nightfighter]

First off, in no way do I condone what Franken did.....
That said, has anyone besides me googled his accuser and clicked through her images? I am NOT saying this is reason to harass or anything, but.... how many millions has she received from those photos? What was she selling?

And further playing devil's advocate...this was in 2006? Where has she been since then? And where was Allie Raisman's father in all these years since she was abused by a US team doctor? (and where was her voice until now?) Seems the chance to grasp at a gold medal (and the millions that she will reap from them over her lifetime) was worth more than coming forward back then. If that was my daughter, I would done that man some serious damage, insuring he would never touch another girl again.....

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Where has she been since then? And where was Allie Raisman's father in all these years since she was abused by a US team doctor? (and where was her voice until now?)..

Until very recently the accuser always was never believed unless they had actual pictures or video excetera. Now it's changed and as I said earlier for the better. I think women have now felt empowered to come out they're seeing that there's no shame in being molested. They're seeing these other women come out and thinking how Brave it is of them to do it . Certainly some of their stories may not be as good as others but I think it takes a brave person to go in front of the camera and tell their story.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Until very recently the accuser always was never believed unless they had actual pictures or video excetera.

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this is not true...and that's odd grammar

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

First off, in no way do I condone what Franken did.....
That said, has anyone besides me googled his accuser and clicked through her images? I am NOT saying this is reason to harass or anything, but.... how many millions has she received from those photos? What was she selling?

And further playing devil's advocate...this was in 2006? Where has she been since then? And where was Allie Raisman's father in all these years since she was abused by a US team doctor? (and where was her voice until now?) Seems the chance to grasp at a gold medal (and the millions that she will reap from them over her lifetime) was worth more than coming forward back then. If that was my daughter, I would done that man some serious damage, insuring he would never touch another girl again.....

most of theses women see their is safety in Numbers less stigma and easy to attack 1 women but when multiple women come out on 1 person with the same story thats a game changer

Franken accusers is 1 person she provided the Photo odd

You forcibly kissed me without my consent,(thats an issues)
grabbed my breasts while I was sleeping and had someone take a photo of you doing it,( never touched her breast or even the body armor see photo ) knowing I would see it later ( seem shes had the photo since 2006 ) , and be ashamed.(thats why he took it? to shame her ? by that photo? shes not ashamed of her other phots across the internet?

as this stands its a he said she said incident . and is not the same league as the people with multiple accusers . no matter how hard some try to lump them together

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Franken accusers is 1 person she provided the Photo odd

as this stands its a he said she said incident . and is not the same league as the people with multiple accusers . no matter how hard some try to lump them together

I think he has another accuser ....probably more as time goes on?...isn't that how this goes now?..look at Spacey

regarding Moore....don't know why anyone, particularly on the left, would be at all surprised...isn't the condescending Northeast Liberal and Hollywood frequent caricaturization of southerners as hayseed hick goobers who date and molest young women, particularly relatives?...this should just confirm their beliefs....

on the other hand...when the high minded, pontificating, highly evolved, condescending Northeast Liberal/Hollywood types who are generally "BETTER PEOPLE" engage in this abhorrent behavior....well...what are we to think?...though we know this has been the norm for a LONG time