Jerry Sandusky

[Raider Ronnie]

Anyone else think this POS should do the world a favor and put the barrel of a loaded shot gun in his mouth and pull the damn trigger !

[fishsmith]

YES, He's lost the right to live.

[Slipknot]

POS
death is too good for him
ruined lives
the whole story is horrible

[bart]

that would be the easy way out. he should be tortured for the rest of his life, just like his victims will be....

[vineyardblues]

Very sad for all of us.
Paterno has to leave as does anyone "who" knew what was going on
Penn state President all the way down ..... a.s.a.p
just to get this out of the way quick ,,

Very sad

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by vineyardblues

Very sad for all of us.
Paterno has to leave as does anyone "who" knew what was going on
Penn state President all the way down ..... a.s.a.p


{{{{just to get this out of the way quick ,, }}}}



Very sad

yes sad, and yes remove them all

BUT

don't get this out of the way any time soon.
I think the more this is publicized, the more people in the future will be less apt to sweep it under the rug.

Shame on them

the damage abuse causes needs to be addressed and victims should be given what they need to move past this.

Stop this abuse now, people need to speak up

preying on kids is just plain disgusting
in the old days they'd be stoned to death in the street and rightly so

[stcroixman]

this is a disgrace. Joe P wanted to have his regular weekly press conference to talk about Nebraska this Saturday.

He can't have all his faculties anymore. He is dillusional.

This could be the result of his 50 year reign at PSU. People get too comfy with the power and sooner or later abuse it.

If I could ask Joe 1 question: If Sandusky was pushing drugs at his players and the AD did nothing, would he have reported the pusher to the police?

I heard the Board of trustees will dismiss the PSU president. Joe can't possibly think he is more important than him?

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by stcroixman

I heard the Board of trustees will dismiss the PSU president. Joe can't possibly think he is more important than him?

Of course he can. Because the reality of the situation is that at the big-time football powerhouses, "Coach" IS more important than the president of the university.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Of course he can. Because the reality of the situation is that at the big-time football powerhouses, "Coach" IS more important than the president of the university.

Yup. He brought them their golden goose.... Even at the collegiate level, nevermind the pros, football is a dirty business.

[The Dad Fisherman]

If true that is a very sad way for Paterno to go out...

[basswipe]

He is EXACTLY what the death penalty was designed for.

[vineyardblues]

Sorry Slip
{{{{just to get this out of the way quick ,, }}}}

Was ment for For Penn State
Not for the POS

[Raven]

the single thing that made me say

you gotta be fuggin kiddin me


was how he had locker room access written
into his contract.... so he could continue his
pedophile way of life....

so it's not just him.... as i feel bad for the school
and the kids whose lives he has severely damaged

but the staff....
and those that would allow him that provision
have to be brought to justice as well

even if they Never laid a single finger tip on a kid
they have a supporting role in all of this
that is the ice berg hiding beneath the waters....

but this crime... of sexually abusing children
imho opinion has never EVER had sufficient penalties
for the destructiveness of the crime on society .

out of all of this....that has to change

[vineyardblues]

Barney Frank said whats the big deal and Backs him up !!
Also said he can get a great loan rate for him after he buys his home for pennies on the dollar at auction

[Slipknot]

I know Peter





what about Sen. Spector? is he supporting this

it's a nightmare

I can't believe it went on and continued so long

[vineyardblues]

UPDATE : BaRNeY called back and said the following :

Adoption was a mistake (5 boys) , should have been foster parents and been paid by the state


sick-0

[The Dad Fisherman]

He won't get the Death Penalty....its not a capital crime...unfortunately. he'll never see the outside again. he'll get to be Bubba's Bitch for a few years and then someone will shiv him while he's cleaning the $hitter

[vineyardblues]

OK,
They vote Joe out last night , fired with the Pres
Kid's get word and start flipping over a TV truck ? WTF are they thinking!
Now he will not be on the football field this sat , as he should NOT Be ,
I just hope that people do not get hurt in the mist of all this stuff .........

[JohnR]

I just read the linked Grand Jury Report and I am not sure how much Joe Paterno is at fault at levels of reporting. He reported things to his superiors but did he report enough or accurately enough - that will be determined. Clearly there will be more info eventually to make that call.

Report: Grand Jury Report on Jerry Sandusky - Document - NYTimes.com

I read this with alternating points of WTF? and Rage and disgust.

Not enough heads have rolled on this one and certainly not soon enough. Read about the Second Mile organization and the implications. Heads need to roll there as well as they had to know.

Sandusky is evil.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I just read the linked Grand Jury Report and I am not sure how much Joe Paterno is at fault at levels of reporting.

He's not, even the Police stated he did the legally right thing....right now the argument is whether he did the Morally right thing by making sure he followed up on it instead of just leaving it alone.

it was reported to the head of the athletics department and the head of the Campus police....they sat on it. Now when Joe saw that they sat on it...should he have taken it further up the chain or called the police? that is where the Morally right comes into play. He didn't do anything and that was wrong...and that is why he was fired.

I think McQueary is more Guilty than Joe and if he is still there should be shown the door also....he actually witnessed it and was OK w/ the whole "Ahh, we told him he couldn't bring kids on campus anymore" That's a serious WTF moment if there ever was one. Why didn't he persue it w/ the police either.

to many people screwed the pooch on this one

Anybody involved is going bye bye...the university is in severe damage control right now.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

He's not, even the Police stated he did the legally right thing....right now the argument is whether he did the Morally right thing by making sure he followed up on it instead of just leaving it alone.

it was reported to the head of the athletics department and the head of the Campus police....they sat on it. Now when Joe saw that they sat on it...should he have taken it further up the chain or called the police? that is where the Morally right comes into play. He didn't do anything and that was wrong...and that is why he was fired.

I think McQueary is more Guilty than Joe and if he is still there should be shown the door also....he actually witnessed it and was OK w/ the whole "Ahh, we told him he couldn't bring kids on campus anymore" That's a serious WTF moment if there ever was one. Why didn't he persue it w/ the police either.

to many people screwed the pooch on this one

Anybody involved is going bye bye...the university is in severe damage control right now.

Did you ever stop to consider that the reason the campus cops, the AD, and possibly even the university's president "sat on it" was because Paterno told them to sit on it?

I did. And I'll go you one better. I'd be willing to make a small wager on the fact that the reason the DA dropped that 1999 investigation without charging Sandusky---who was caught on tape by the investigating detective basically admitting what he did--was because Paterno, either personally or through his influence with the PSU administration, told the DA to squelch it.

You're being very naive if you think that the AD, the campus cops, and even PSU's president were Paterno's "superiors" out there. Yes, in theory they were. In practice, Joe ran PSU.

[Raider Ronnie]

This is what is considered higher education ?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[Piscator]

Paterno and Sandusky were tied to the hip for years. Sandusky played for him as a Linebacker and continued as a coach. Paterno knew what was going on. Coaches at Penn State pretty much are lifers. He knew about it and that is why Paterno did a 180 before the 1999 season and decided that Sandusky wouldn't be his successor. Sandusky left but still held youth football camps at Penn State. What makes this whole thing really bad for Paterno is that when Mike McQueary (who was a grad assistant in 2002 and caught Sandusky in the act with a 10 year old in the shower after a football camp at Penn State) went to Paterno, nothing was really done. Ask yourself what you would have done if you were Paterno? Paterno gave McQueary a coaching job (do you think maybe to keep his mouth shut?). Even worse is the outcome of the investigation was that Sandusky WASN’T banned from campus or the Penn State athletic facilities, he was only barred from bringing children onto campus. (mind boggling) Paterno knew it and he decided to ignore the reports and evidence to protect the reputation of Penn State. That decision showed that he could have cared less about those kids The local and state police should have been notified. The fact that the Penn State police did the investigation is a joke. They can’t police themselves. The whole thing was a cover up and Paterno is as dirty with the rest of them. Read the following from a New York newspaper.

On Friday, March 1, 2002, in an episode that those close to McQueary say left him shocked and confused — and that would return to haunt his life and the fortunes of his university years later — he entered the locker room in Penn State’s Lasch Football Building at about 9:30 p.m. to put a new pair of shoes in his locker and pick up some recruiting tapes, according to the report of the grand jury that investigated the allegations involving Sandusky. Coaches commonly keep late hours but not so much in the off-season months, like March. Besides, the lights were not on in the offices, but toward the locker room. That is not usual. And a shower was running.
According to the report, McQueary heard “rhythmic, slapping sounds,” which he believed to be those of sexual activity. He walked to his locker, opened it and put his sneakers inside. He then turned his head and looked into the shower.
He has said under oath that he saw Sandusky raping what appeared to be a 10-year-old boy. He immediately left, met with his father and determined he would report the incident to Paterno, according to prosecutors. A person familiar with his account said McQueary did not spare the details when he met with Paterno. Nor did he when he met with the university’s athletic director and another senior administrator, the man in charge of Penn State’s campus police.
Weeks later, according to state prosecutors, those officials told McQueary that Sandusky had been barred from bringing children onto campus.

[JohnR]

Piscator - you are right. Even if Paterno reported to his "bosses" as he was supposed to, if the PSU admin covered it up he probably should have gone to the state police / youth services. In the end, nothing here was acceptable.

As a father part of me wonders why Sandusky was not beaten up prior to being reported to authorities.

[Backbeach Jake]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Piscator - you are right. Even if Paterno reported to his "bosses" as he was supposed to, if the PSU admin covered it up he probably should have gone to the state police / youth services. In the end, nothing here was acceptable.

As a father part of me wonders why Sandusky was not beaten up prior to being reported to authorities.

Sandusky's foundation target at risk kids, those with no fathers in their lives. He farmed his victims, the sick bastard, and he farmed them out as well. According to rumblings.
If evil had a face it's Sandusky.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

Sandusky's foundation target at risk kids, those with no fathers in their lives. He farmed his victims, the sick bastard, and he farmed them out as well. According to rumblings.
If evil had a face it's Sandusky.

Yup, there are strong rumors, from sources out there, that the Second Mile foundation was actually pimping kids out to powerful people in the community, and around the state.

What has come out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

[stcroixman]

Second Mile foundation will have their Not for profit status yanked by IRS after their inevitable investigation is done, another domino to fall.

I really thought the Board could have made a ballsy statement by saying PSU will finish its regular season schedule and decline a Big 10 Championship game and bowl invite.

They still cover that $5-10 million bowl game so they haven't shown true remorse IMO. This could still happen. It would be another big pill to swallow especially with the lawsuits they are facing

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Yup, there are strong rumors, from sources out there, that the Second Mile foundation was actually pimping kids out to powerful people in the community, and around the state.

What has come out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

That is the sickest part of what I am afraid we are going to see revealed.... Some big names on their different boards, some of whom were not aware they were even on the boards.

Statement from Lou Holtz - ESPN

[Sundowner]

I have a cabin about 15 miles east of Penn State. Besides Rhody that is my favorite part of the country and I hold it dear to my heart. I have, since I started watching sports, been a huge Penn St. fan. Joe Pa has always been Penn St. to me. Penn St. has the biggest following of anything in P.A.. Not the steelers, eagles, flyers , penguins, pirates or phillies can even come close, in the least. That being said, who the crap is Joe Pa to not bring this to the forefront of everything when this happened? If my best friend did this, I would report it to the highest authority possible after I got done beating the snot out of him. Joe Pa is Penn State's face and he was worried about tarnishing his own legacy. What urkes me the most out of this is that he can look at anyone and say he feels for the victims, say a prayer for the victims, when he had the chance to make it as right as could be made for said victims. I am glad they fired him, the frigan nerve to say he is gonna coach this last home game, once again he brushed it off. If that isn't a god complex what is. This also gives life to the flavor of ice cream at the creamery there, Peachy paterno. What an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

[Sundowner]

I will continue to be a Penn State fan but who knows what this is going to do to the school. This is where we find out what community can mean.Unfortunately, it is not starting off well in my opinion. These kids are backing a name and not looking at what they should be considering. This has been all wrong since the act took place. These kids are just reacting to be part of something and I really hope they smarten up instead of sticking up for a coward, which is really hard for me to say. There is a bronze statue in front of Beaver Stadium of Joe Pa and in the wall behind him is a vast number of football players that look to be following him onto a field. I think that should be removed and the pics of have of me and that statue will be destroyed. Unfortunately the recruits are already recanting their commitments to PSU and this university is in trouble for the foreseeable future. They need a high profile coach to come in there and save them, as well as denounce the winningest coach. Tough challenge