Trump’s PR Meltdown

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Here you go Jim, while you're following Trump around dazed and confused the honorable folks at the WaPo are helping to illustrate just how stupid and wrong your map is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1YLgofXHSQ-QFk

i didn’t get it from trumps tweet. your article was a joke. i know land doesn’t vote. the point i was trying to prove, and which i proved effectively with that map, is that culturally, the coasts are different from middle america. hence obamas bitter clingers comment, he wasn’t talking about the swells
on the Vineyard or in Hollywood.
you’ve sure got me on the ropes!
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[Pete F.]

President Trump says he wants Rep Adam Schiff D-CA tried for fraud and treason.

Rep Maxine Waters wants Trump "imprisoned & placed in solitary confinement"

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i didn’t get it from trumps tweet. your article was a joke. i know land doesn’t vote. the point i was trying to prove, and which i proved effectively with that map, is that culturally, the coasts are different from middle america. hence obamas bitter clingers comment, he wasn’t talking about the swells
on the Vineyard or in Hollywood.
you’ve sure got me on the ropes!
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Jeff’s brain was somewhere different again.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I said there's a big difference in the values of people on the coasts, versus the middle of the country.

WDMSO scoffed at that.

Behold...county level results from 2016. now tell me I'm wrong, Columbo.

The maps red ok do the math on poupulation they have a minority view but majority in representation per person but thats ok
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re not aware of any of them
who support late term abortion? that’s what you’re saying?
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Up to the point of birth? No.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i didn’t get it from trumps tweet. your article was a joke. i know land doesn’t vote. the point i was trying to prove, and which i proved effectively with that map, is that culturally, the coasts are different from middle america. hence obamas bitter clingers comment, he wasn’t talking about the swells
on the Vineyard or in Hollywood.
you’ve sure got me on the ropes!
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It doesn't prove anything, because land can't vote. It has nothing to do with a proximity to salt water, it's mostly about urban versus rural. Additionally your map doesn't show % of blue voters in red counties. It's practically meaningless which is why Trump uses it.

[Sea Dangles]

The map is merely symbolic. Trump baits #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s into hysteria and that is why he refers to it. Mission accomplished once again for our great president.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The maps red ok do the math on poupulation they have a minority view but majority in representation per person but thats ok
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You are better than this. Sleep off the sour grapes.
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[Pete F.]

Nixon won 49 states, his map was redder than Trumps.
Electoral votes 520 to 17 for McGovern
States carried 49 he only lost Massachusetts
Popular vote Percentage 60.7% that's the widest of any US presidential election

History repeats

He was gone within weeks after the motion to impeach was sent to the floor of the house.

"I have never been a quitter. To leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent to every instinct in my body. But as president, I must put the interest of America first...Therefore, I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow."

The current Con-man doesn't have the respect for the Office and the Constitution that Nixon had.

[Pete F.]

The "Nationalist" currently flying around with Mike Pompeo openly admits they’re on a mission to smear Barack Obama and Trump’s other political enemies.

[Pete F.]

More than 352k people have registered to vote in Georgia this year, sending voting rolls to record high. 47% of new registrants are minorities, 45% under 30 -

[Pete F.]

NOW From a GOP Senate staffer: "The Civil War tweet is a tipping point for some, but not all." Says Trump's actions are pushing the GOP toward removal if that vote comes. It boils down to
@senatemajldr
. "If Sen. McConnell votes for removal, then it's over."

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

WOW AMAZING.. how much more do yo need ... ??? AND plz what matters to those in the middle of the country but not THE rest of us on the coast... id love to hear about it
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That myopic view is exactly the reason you have president Trump.

Do you think New Englanders care about policy affecting agriculture in the Mid West, or Nebraska cares about policy that affects the fishing industry in New England.

Does Texas care about policy affecting the Lumber industry in Washington State.

Every state/area in the country has their own economies based on their local industries.

This is why Hillary lost, because she didn’t care to waste time on the interior of America, didn’t even really acknowledge their concerns and Jim’s map shows that.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

This is why Hillary lost, because she didn’t care to waste time on the interior of America, didn’t even really acknowledge their concerns and Jim’s map shows that.
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Every one of those red counties could have been won by a single vote and the map wouldn't change.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It doesn't prove anything, because land can't vote. It has nothing to do with a proximity to salt water, it's mostly about urban versus rural. Additionally your map doesn't show % of blue voters in red counties. It's practically meaningless which is why Trump uses it.

its not the saltwater spence. it’s the culture of the people
there, which is different from the culture in middle america. the coasts are where a majority of the swells live, people who think that drinking hot toddies with cashmere sweaters tied around their necks is the zenith of civilization, especially if god plays no role.

in flyover country, they view things differently. they view family, religion, guns, and patriotism, differently. disagree all you want, as the inability to recognize that will
not help the democrats in 2020.



thanks for telling me that land doesn’t vote, though.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Every one of those red counties could have been won by a single vote and the map wouldn't change.

yeah, and i’m sure that’s exactly what happened.

you are an absolute joke.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The maps red ok do the math on poupulation they have a minority view but majority in representation per person but thats ok
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yes it’s ok with me, because a state is also a sovereign entity with unique needs and interests.

if you don’t like it, like
everything else in the constitution, there’s a mechanism to change it.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Up to the point of birth? No.

sanders, buttigueg, and oroarke have said it’s the woman’s choice.

warren does everything she can to avoid an answer.

who has come
out against it, besides Gabbard?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Every one of those red counties could have been won by a single vote and the map wouldn't change.

If the one vote flipped the county to blue, then the map would change. Pretty simple concept

Even though that’s not the case, but believe what you will.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

If the one vote flipped the county to blue, then the map would change. Pretty simple concept

Even though that’s not the case, but believe what you will.
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he has to believe it, the alternative is too much to bear. i can only hope the DNC believes it too. Hilary clearly did, either that or she thought it was based on popular vote.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

sanders, buttigueg, and oroarke have said it’s the woman’s choice.

warren does everything she can to avoid an answer.

who has come
out against it, besides Gabbard?
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Never heard them say explicitly until birth for any reason. The party platform is to support Roe.

[scottw]

I wonder what these child activists claiming their future has been stolen from them by adults think of abortion?

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Every one of those red counties could have been won by a single vote and the map wouldn't change.

Poor liberal fool,is your brain elsewhere again?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Never heard them say explicitly until birth for any reason. The party platform is to support Roe.

they said the choice is the moms, the government should stay out of
it. meaning, they support the right if the moms to abort until
birth.

and why shouldn’t they? if the issue centers around the moms bodily self autonomy, why wouldn’t you support abortion until
birth? it’s still the moms
body. can you explain? it makes zero sense. zip.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

its not the saltwater spence. it’s the culture of the people
there, which is different from the culture in middle america.

in flyover country, they view things differently. they view family, religion, guns, and patriotism, differently.
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You and Republicans are the only 1 selling the 2 America's.. youve bought into a lie that all thats left of America is the wholesome middle america.. you really need to get out more ...
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You and Republicans are the only 1 selling the 2 America's.. youve bought into a lie that all thats left of America is the wholesome middle america.. you really need to get out more ...
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the democrats aren’t selling the
notion of two America’s?

fascinating...

so explain obamas “bitter clingers” comment and hilary’s “deplorables” comment?

i see one america, but we aren’t all the same, there are regional and cultural differences. as your side likes to say ( but the don’t mean), diversity is good.

liberals celebrate diversity of everything, except in ideas.

love the notion that only republicans are divisive.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

they said the choice is the moms, the government should stay out of
it. meaning, they support the right if the moms to abort until
birth.

and why shouldn’t they? if the issue centers around the moms bodily self autonomy, why wouldn’t you support abortion until
birth? it’s still the moms
body. can you explain? it makes zero sense. zip.
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Jim,
Abortions at more than 24 weeks are around 1%
Abortion numbers have been going down consistently
Meanwhile, Infant mortality is worse in the US than any of the G20
Birthweight is decreasing
Average birth cost is over 30K, the highest in the world
You can ask your physician why late term abortions are necessary, he likely can explain the reasons they are performed better than I.
There is far more that can be done for life than trying to legislate medical procedures and reducing the availability of birth control.

But building a moat, filling it with alligators and snakes and shooting border crossers is ok. Just in the legs

[Jim in CT]

Pete, i am aware that most abortions aren’t late term. you guys have a real back for
answering a question no one asked.

Why should any pro choice person object to late term abortion? how does that make any sense?

if you say it’s not a person and the mom has the right to bodily self autonomy ( which is what they all say), why does the right to self autonomy end at some
arbitrary, meaningless point of pregnancy? It’s still the moms body. Where’s the logic?

Any chance you can address the question i’m asking?
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[Pete F.]

Because it is purely a political question and will be used with a ghastly graphic to attack.
Not in a truthful manner, nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof.
I guarantee that if a politician answers that question, their smiling face will be used in an attack ad with that statement and a picture of a dead baby.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof.

Hmmm, I could have sworn NYC lit themselves up in pink lights and big smiles on the legislators faces to celebrate just such legislation.

Pretty ghoulish if you ask me
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