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03-17-2008, 09:33 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Warning About Sealers!
I am always hesitant to recommend boiled linseed oil and mineral spirits to some of the new builders here only because if they do not know what they are doing, or gloss over our warnings.....they could easily burn their homes down. It has almost happened to a couple of folks on here! So to those of you who are new to this and you try this method of sealing.......HEED THIS WARNING!
DISPOSE OF ALL OIL SOAKED RAGS PROPERLY AND DO NOT LEAVE THEM LAYING AROUND AS THEY COULD SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST AND CAUSE A FIRE! DISPOSE OF THEM IN A COVERED 1 GALLON PAINT CAN WITH SOME WATER IN IT!
I just don't want to see anyone get hurt!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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03-17-2008, 10:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: portsmouth RI
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is there any danger with the mixture in a sealed plastic container?i have 2 qts. mixed for sealing the plugs i make
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03-17-2008, 10:58 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern Connecticut
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Crumpled rags generate heat. I wouldnt trust plastic.
Best bet is spread them out to dry, then dispose. If they are spread out, they cant get hot enough to ignite. It's when they are crumpled up in a ball that the center of the rag is insulated and can get very hot potentially causing spontanious combustion.
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03-17-2008, 11:07 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I store my mixture in 1 gallon aluminum/tin paint cans.....or a glass container would do.......the can would be better as it will not break. Also keep another tin paint can with a lid handy and when you are finished with the rags, put them in the can with enough water to soak the rags and close the lid tight.  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-17-2008, 11:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,736
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If you want to do an interesting experiment, wipe up a little BLO with a paper towel, just enough to dampen it, not soak it, crumple it up and hold it in your hand for several minutes....you will heed the warnings from that time foreward.
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03-17-2008, 11:23 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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You got that right Roc! I just get worried everytime someone asks about sealers and someone replies BLO and Mins........I want folks to realize what can happen.....so hopefully we have saved someone alot of trouble with this thread!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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10-02-2008, 05:32 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
........I want folks to realize what can happen.....so hopefully we have saved someone alot of trouble with this thread! |
Having a fire is MORE than allot of trouble...
it .......is...........HELL.....>> trust me, i know
this thread and it's advice should be a sticky |
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07-02-2008, 10:20 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Larry,,, I will not use BLO since the garage in Texas gets to 100 deg,,, I just cant trust it when I am gone,,,,
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07-02-2008, 10:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 22
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what are some other good sealer recommendations besides BLO
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07-02-2008, 11:50 PM
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Veni, vidi, piscori!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Vermont
Posts: 152
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I've been happy using Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane cut with mineral spirits. Dries fast, seals well, low fire hazard!
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Thanks for taking me fishing Grandpa!
SCP - Stephen's Custom Plugs .... (Not a company - just a mindset!)
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07-03-2008, 05:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTBasser
I've been happy using Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane cut with mineral spirits. Dries fast, seals well, low fire hazard!
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If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry? |
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07-03-2008, 07:39 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Line Sider
If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry?
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I should say that I have been pleased with BLO in my limited plug making - and it appears that this is some pretty good sealing - but always interested in what others (far more experienced than I) are doing. |
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07-03-2008, 08:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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Sealers
Beware!
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07-03-2008, 08:42 AM
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Veni, vidi, piscori!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Vermont
Posts: 152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Line Sider
If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry?
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19 to 24 hours and your good to go. Usually I seal one night and prime the next night after work. Might even be able to go to the next step in 9 to 12 hours - they seem dry the next morning - but I have not tried it. |
Thanks for taking me fishing Grandpa!
SCP - Stephen's Custom Plugs .... (Not a company - just a mindset!)
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07-06-2008, 07:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Connecticut/Rhody Shore
Posts: 280
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hey woody and woodbuster you guys are here too? hi you doing'
i'm surfflyfish4stripers...hahaha  |
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07-03-2008, 06:21 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Shore MA
Posts: 228
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for a quick and dirty seal try regular sanding sealer. Dries quick and gives pretty good protection. Heed the warnings. no matter what the label says I always put them in a metal paint can with water. better safe than sorry.
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07-13-2008, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
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quick question; I used cardboard to protect floor, will the cardboard with BLO/MIN spots(spill marks) ignite ???
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10-01-2008, 11:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Marblehead, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WantBigStripers
quick question; I used cardboard to protect floor, will the cardboard with BLO/MIN spots(spill marks) ignite ???
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Good question...I drip dry over a piece of MDF...I have the same concerns.... Anyone? |
Fish Rule!
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10-28-2008, 09:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Connecticut/Rhody Shore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTBasser
I've been happy using Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane cut with mineral spirits. Dries fast, seals well, low fire hazard!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Line Sider
If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry?
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i just switched to spar urethane thinned with m/s. blo takes too darn long to dry.i do 2 coats of spar ure.. and the plug is hard like a rock.  |
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10-28-2008, 08:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Central CT
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Dave, are you soaking them or just brushing it on. Huge difference.
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If I knew I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself!!
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10-28-2008, 09:01 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Anyone use Propionate Wood Sealer
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10-01-2008, 07:10 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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I think as long as you don't have a situation where the stuff can't ventilate as in a crumpled up rag soaked it it, you'll be ok with drippings on cardboard or MDF. those will have enough air to allow drying to occur. It's the heat building up in a crumpled up rag that cause combustion with BLO
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10-02-2008, 05:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Marblehead, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
I think as long as you don't have a situation where the stuff can't ventilate as in a crumpled up rag soaked it it, you'll be ok with drippings on cardboard or MDF. those will have enough air to allow drying to occur. It's the heat building up in a crumpled up rag that cause combustion with BLO
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Thx, Those are pretty much my thoughts as well...... |
Fish Rule!
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01-21-2009, 10:30 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Helsman spar urethane satin finish cut 70/30 with mineral spirits. About as safe as your going to get and readily available.
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01-21-2009, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new bedford, Ma.
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If anyone is die hard on using the BLO I have almost a whole can left that someone can have. I can bring it with me to plugfest.
Don't know where/how to dispose of it.
Didn't really like the idea of it being in the garage last summer, garage windows make it way warmer then normal in there.
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01-19-2010, 10:34 PM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Bump!
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I don't think "Bump" should count as a post! You'll have to celebrate 18,000 all over again (ha ha). |
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01-20-2010, 02:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Holyoke, Ma
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how would one go about boiling linseed oil properly?
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01-20-2010, 03:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
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You don't boil the linseed oil, you buy it already boiled and cut it with thinner. It makes an excellent sealer, but is dangerous to use as the rags or materials you use while working can burst into flames by spontanious combustion. There have been many threads on this subject. Do a search and read them before using it.
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low & slow 37
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01-20-2010, 05:04 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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You are in one Don.  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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01-20-2010, 08:41 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SurfCaster413
how would one go about boiling linseed oil properly?
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try tung oil instead |
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