When is Jim in NJ

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, if Christie was a Democrat, every single person here knows you'd be bending over backwards to defend him.


That makes me more fair-minded than you are capable of ever being. Spence, I am not the right-wing equivalent of you, not even close, I'm not nearly as radically right as you are left. Not even remotely close. .

I'm sure that he would be defending him but the difference is that he doesn't start threads every time he sees something that he doesn't like than state that all repubs. are like that as you do. Finally he doesn't resort to insults as you frequently do.

Is there any wonder this forum has lost so many members since you started posting? I always wonder if you speak like that when you're face to face with people.

I did get a laugh at that last comment though,
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm sure that he would be defending him but the difference is that he doesn't start threads every time he sees something that he doesn't like than state that all repubs. are like that as you do. Finally he doesn't resort to insults as you frequently do.

Is there any wonder this forum has lost so many members since you started posting? I always wonder if you speak like that when you're face to face with people.

I did get a laugh at that last comment though,
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Paul: The IRS didn't single out conservatives, they persecuted liberals too.

Jim: Do you have any facts to support that?

Paul: Everyone is leaving this forum because of you, you big meanie!

Do I have that about right, Paul? Is that what transpired here?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I did get a laugh at that last comment though,
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My last comment was that Obama apologized for the IRS scandal, and that's funny to you? Well, as usual (not always, but usually) my facts seem to be correct. A quote from Obama...

"If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that is outrageous, and there is no place for it, and they have to be held fully accountable, because the IRS as an independent agency requires absolute integrity and people have to have confidence that they are applying the laws in a non-partisan way. You should feel that way regardless of party."

Paul, you denied that the IRS targeted conservative groups. Obama himself doesn't seem to be denying that, so why would you deny it?

Sorry for being so mean...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

My last comment was that Obama apologized for the IRS scandal, and that's funny to you? Well, as usual (not always, but usually) my facts seem to be correct. A quote from Obama...

"If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that is outrageous, and there is no place for it, and they have to be held fully accountable, because the IRS as an independent agency requires absolute integrity and people have to have confidence that they are applying the laws in a non-partisan way. You should feel that way regardless of party."

Paul, you denied that the IRS targeted conservative groups. Obama himself doesn't seem to be denying that, so why would you deny it?

Sorry for being so mean...

No, the last comment was that you think you are fair minded, The irs targeted both lib and cons groups. More cons groups where targeted as there were more applying. While no conservative groups where denied NP status they were given extra scrutiny.

Where did I deny that the Irs targeted cons. groups?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No, the last comment was that you think you are fair minded, The irs targeted both lib and cons groups. More cons groups where targeted as there were more applying. While no conservative groups where denied NP status they were
given extra scrutiny.

Where did I deny that the Irs cons. groups?
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Paul, you said Obama's IRS targeted both sides. I asked for proof. You responded with insults.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Paul, you said Obama's IRS targeted both sides. I asked for proof. You responded with insults.

Just following your lead.

I just did a google search on "liberal groups targeted by the irs" and the articles said the irs used the terms emerge and Acorn - just as they used the term progressive.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Just following your lead.

I just did a google search on "liberal groups targeted by the irs" and the articles said the irs used the terms emerge and Acorn - just as they used the term progressive.
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No, he's trying to deflect.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

No, he's trying to deflect.
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<Sigh>. What exactly am I trying to deflect here, Spence? I said that if Christie knew about this, he should be impeached.

I'll also say this...within 24 hours of the story breaking, Christie had people fired, and said that even though he didn't know about this, it's his fault because the buck stops with him.

Has Obama ever stepped up like that? Is that how Obama handled the IRS scandal, or the failed stimulus (which he promised would keep unemployment under 8%), or the website disaster, or Benghazi? It was refreshing, at least, that Christie didn't blame George Bush.

I want this investigated, and if it turns out Christie ordered this, he should get impeached, and possibly charged with a crime. Ambulances couldn't get where they were trying to go because of this. Lives were put at risk, all for political spite. I want my side to be better than that. If he ordered this, he's unfit for public service.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Just following your lead.

I just did a google search on "liberal groups targeted by the irs" and the articles said the irs used the terms emerge and Acorn - just as they used the term progressive.
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So why hasn't ACORN complained about being targeted?

Spence was right to bring up Christie, and I'm glad he did, because I'd be one heck of a hypocrite if I didn't criticize him. If he knew about this, he is unfit to be POTUS. So is a woman who lied about being shot at in Kosovo when she knows damn well that never happened.

A fine state of affairs when that's our choice. I did like Christie before this. I still agree with him on the issues, but we need someone with some ethics.