national murder rate highest in 25 years

[Jim in CT]

another feather in Pudding Brain’s cap. let’s be soft on crime, teach everyone to despise those with whom we disagree, mock religion and the traditional family, no downside, right?

We’re in Jimmy Carter territory now.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-murder...cities-records

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

another feather in Pudding Brain’s cap. let’s be soft on crime, teach everyone to despise those with whom we disagree, mock religion and the traditional family, no downside, right?

We’re in Jimmy Carter territory now.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-murder...cities-records

I know Jim Americans have never murdered each other before

The U.S. murder rate rose 30% between 2019 and 2020 – the largest single-year increase in more than a century,

Don’t recall you being concerned it was Trumps fault

highest it's been in 25 Years. So we have been here before



When are you going to tell us what mythical policy Biden passed to create this increase

Another conservatives myth the US isn’t tough on Crime

Criminals do not factor in punishment when the commit crimes .. that’s another myth created by conservatives

Current prison population in the US

1.8 million people

China 1,710,000

Weak on Crime ok
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I know Jim Americans have never murdered each other before

The U.S. murder rate rose 30% between 2019 and 2020 – the largest single-year increase in more than a century,

Don’t recall you being concerned it was Trumps fault

highest it's been in 25 Years. So we have been here before



When are you going to tell us what mythical policy Biden passed to create this increase

Another conservatives myth the US isn’t tough on Crime

Criminals do not factor in punishment when the commit crimes .. that’s another myth created by conservatives

Current prison population in the US

1.8 million people

China 1,710,000

Weak on Crime ok
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yes, that’s exactly what i said, that there were never any murders until Biden came along. You got me!

we know what decreases crime, and we know what increases crime, because rational people can look at results.

Rudy Giuliani is a clown now. When he was mayor of NY, he brought about massive decreases in violent crime. Things like stop and frisk work. You may not like that it works, but it works.z

the liberal approach ( attack the nuclear family, attack faith, coddle
criminals, attack police, decriminalize drugs, let homeless create huge camps) well, now we know the effects of those things. mean, anyone who had commen sense could have predicted the impact of that stupidity, but we don’t have to guess anymore. we can look at the results, and we knows. They suck . They are stupid and they suck.

Living in CT, i can tell you that liberals aren’t persuaded by results. they never admit tax and spend just doesn’t work, and they do it again the next year.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I know Jim Americans have never murdered each other before

The U.S. murder rate rose 30% between 2019 and 2020 – the largest single-year increase in more than a century,

Don’t recall you being concerned it was Trumps fault

highest it's been in 25 Years. So we have been here before



When are you going to tell us what mythical policy Biden passed to create this increase

Another conservatives myth the US isn’t tough on Crime

Criminals do not factor in punishment when the commit crimes .. that’s another myth created by conservatives

Current prison population in the US

1.8 million people

China 1,710,000

Weak on Crime ok
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oh, on Trump, i’ve said here many times that i hated his criminal
justice reform. drug dealing isn’t a non-violent crime.

The president doesn’t control the murder rate obviously. but biden supports the liberal insanity that is causing the spike.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh, on Trump, i’ve said here many times that i hated his criminal
justice reform. drug dealing isn’t a non-violent crime.

The president doesn’t control the murder rate obviously. but biden supports the liberal insanity that is causing the spike.
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just what is causing the spike?

Anytime you hear a “rise in crime” or “spike in shootings,” remember: whatever the claim, it's happening despite investing the most on policing in the history of the world. A brutal indictment of the efficacy of policing. Yet police are using their pathetic failures to demand more?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

just what is causing the spike?

Anytime you hear a “rise in crime” or “spike in shootings,” remember: whatever the claim, it's happening despite investing the most on policing in the history of the world. A brutal indictment of the efficacy of policing. Yet police are using their pathetic failures to demand more?

Conservatives FBI arrest whites jan6 or they didn’t say the Islamic terrorism they suck! their against us., even though they kill the guy

When police shoot unarmed people of color they defend the police with excuses blaming the dead person

Odd logic
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Conservatives FBI arrest whites jan6 or they didn’t say the Islamic terrorism they suck! their against us., even though they kill the guy

When police shoot unarmed people of color they defend the police with excuses blaming the dead person

Odd logic
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if you can provide an English translation for that first paragraph, that would be helpful.
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[wdmso]

but biden supports the liberal insanity that is causing the spike.

So Trumps criminal reform bill caused

The year-over-year increase in the U.S. murder rate in 2020 was the largest since at least 1905 – and possibly ever,


Most states saw their murder rates go up between 2019 and 2020. At least eight states saw their murder rates rise by 40% or more last year, with the largest percentage increases in Montana (+84%), South Dakota (+81%), Delaware (+62%) and Kentucky (+61%), according to the CDC.

But let’s only focus on cities with Dem mayors. No bias in that

Firearms were involved in 77% of murders for which data was available in 2020, up from 73% in 2019,

But we don’t have a gun issue in the US

It is not yet clear why murders rose dramatically in 2020. Experts have pointed to a variety of potential causes, including the economic and societal changes brought on by the coronavirus pandemic and changes in police-community relations after the murder of George Floyd But the exact reasons remain unclear.

Unclear imagine that

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...rders-in-2020/



But yet you why. Biden. Lol
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

but biden supports the liberal insanity that is causing the spike.

So Trumps criminal reform bill caused

The year-over-year increase in the U.S. murder rate in 2020 was the largest since at least 1905 – and possibly ever,


Most states saw their murder rates go up between 2019 and 2020. At least eight states saw their murder rates rise by 40% or more last year, with the largest percentage increases in Montana (+84%), South Dakota (+81%), Delaware (+62%) and Kentucky (+61%), according to the CDC.

But let’s only focus on cities with Dem mayors. No bias in that

Firearms were involved in 77% of murders for which data was available in 2020, up from 73% in 2019,

But we don’t have a gun issue in the US

It is not yet clear why murders rose dramatically in 2020. Experts have pointed to a variety of potential causes, including the economic and societal changes brought on by the coronavirus pandemic and changes in police-community relations after the murder of George Floyd But the exact reasons remain unclear.

Unclear imagine that

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...rders-in-2020/



But yet you why. Biden. Lol
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one guy says it’s unclear why crime is spiking. You grab onto that with both hands, because it serves your agenda.

the polls suggest america disagrees with you. but you don’t believe any of the polls either. Good for you.
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[Jim in CT]

Goldman Sachs predicts oil will hit $100 a barrel in 2022. Just about every single indicator is working against the left right now. A LOT can and will happen by November. But my God this is making Jimmy Carter look like Dwight Eisenhower.

[wdmso]

Texas AG Paxton to Newsmax: Synagogue Standoff Shows Why FBI Isn't Trusted

Friend of yours Jim?

This is the AG who him himself is currently under investigation so much for backing the blue
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Texas AG Paxton to Newsmax: Synagogue Standoff Shows Why FBI Isn't Trusted

Friend of yours Jim?

This is the AG who him himself is currently under investigation so much for backing the blue
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we’re all in cahoots. that, or just maybe, the FBI is sipping.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

we’re all in cahoots. that, or just maybe, the FBI is sipping.
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Just more conspiracy’s

Just like fox is peddling this show

'The Miseducation of America'

But you need to pay for it.. fleecing the gullible

Ps who killed the Guy . Oh ya The FBI
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Just more conspiracy’s

Just like fox is peddling this show

'The Miseducation of America'

But you need to pay for it.. fleecing the gullible

Ps who killed the Guy . Oh ya The FBI
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i’ve asked you a few times, do you deny that academia has a meaningful liberal bias?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’ve asked you a few times, do you deny that academia has a meaningful liberal bias?
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Jim what’s stopping conservatives from becoming Academics ?


About 76 percent of public school teachers were female and 24 percent were male

Women More Likely to Be Democrats, Regardless of Age

It’s a liberal profession it’s not rocket science. And what’s so nefarious about it You speak
As it a grand conspiracy, but then again that’s what conservatives want you to believe …. Just watch that Fox show and it’s a Christian school administrator it’s in your wheel house

Hegseth uncovers the secrets of the Left's educational agenda

And how our children can be taught to become virtuous citizens

The progressives removed all of that; most importantly, God, from the classroom. And they use some really insidious tactics to do it."

Religion and conspiracy. A perfect Fox show

[Pete F.]

Fox News is running a whole series stoking outrage about the left’s supposed “indoctrination” of kids, while at the same airing advertisements for children’s books to teach your kids to hate socialism before they even know what it is.
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[Pete F.]

I’m sure you both will dissuade your children from wasting their time and your money on an Ivy League education. Community College is fine, lots of self made billionaires are dropouts
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[Pete F.]

The 2010 US Supreme Court Citizens United decision hung a giant "FOR SALE" sign on the US Government and now everyone's surprised that "we the people" got replaced by "corporations are people."

If you’re paying attention, you see the Federalist Society justices moving pieces out on the chessboard to set up later moves for the deregulatory dark-money donors who put them on the Court.

No public education. No public healthcare. No public safety nets. No action vs. climate change.....

The Birch – Koch – Federalist – Mercer – DeVos – Fossil Fuel – 1% – Bannon – Thiel.....way
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[wdmso]

How many conservatives host their own shows at CNN or MSNBC?

That’s your response Jim ..

I fell out of my chair you showed got stripers You own that lib lol

[Pete F.]

If you listen to Jim repeat what he’s trained to spout, you’ll find that liberals are responsible for racism, slavery, and the Ku Klux Klan. They admire Mussolini and Hitler, and modern liberalism is little different from fascism or, even worse, communism. The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal culture.
And they have had this grand conspiracy going forever.

The Russia investigation is dismissed, from the president on down, as a politicized witch hunt. George Soros supposedly paid $300 to each participant in the “March for Our Lives” in March.
What is less well appreciated by liberals is that the language of conspiracy is often used to justify similar behavior on the right. The Russia investigation is not just a witch hunt, it’s the product of the real scandal, which is Hillary-Russia-Obama-FBI collusion, so we must investigate that. Soros funds paid campus protestors, so Turning Point USA needs millions of dollars from Republican donors to win university elections. The liberal academic establishment prevents conservative voices from getting plum faculty jobs, so the Koch Foundation needs to give millions of dollars to universities with strings very much attached.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you listen to Jim repeat what he’s trained to spout, you’ll find that liberals are responsible for racism, slavery, and the Ku Klux Klan. They admire Mussolini and Hitler, and modern liberalism is little different from fascism or, even worse, communism. The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal culture.
And they have had this grand conspiracy going forever.

The Russia investigation is dismissed, from the president on down, as a politicized witch hunt. George Soros supposedly paid $300 to each participant in the “March for Our Lives” in March.
What is less well appreciated by liberals is that the language of conspiracy is often used to justify similar behavior on the right. The Russia investigation is not just a witch hunt, it’s the product of the real scandal, which is Hillary-Russia-Obama-FBI collusion, so we must investigate that. Soros funds paid campus protestors, so Turning Point USA needs millions of dollars from Republican donors to win university elections. The liberal academic establishment prevents conservative voices from getting plum faculty jobs, so the Koch Foundation needs to give millions of dollars to universities with strings very much attached.
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dear plagiarism pete...this would not go over well in college either...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you listen to Jim repeat what he’s trained to spout, you’ll find that liberals are responsible for racism, slavery, and the Ku Klux Klan. They admire Mussolini and Hitler, and modern liberalism is little different from fascism or, even worse, communism. The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal culture.
And they have had this grand conspiracy going forever.

n is dismissed, from the president on down, as a pThe Russia investigatiooliticized witch hunt. George Soros supposedly paid $300 to each participant in the “March for Our Lives” in March.
What is less well appreciated by liberals is that the language of conspiracy is often used to justify similar behavior on the right. The Russia investigation is not just a witch hunt, it’s the product of the real scandal, which is Hillary-Russia-Obama-FBI collusion, so we must investigate that. Soros funds paid campus protestors, so Turning Point USA needs millions of dollars from Republican donors to win university elections. The liberal academic establishment prevents conservative voices from getting plum faculty jobs, so the Koch Foundation needs to give millions of dollars to universities with strings very much attached.
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If you listen to Pete spew what he has been taught to spew, you'll hear that democrats are never wring about anything, republicans are never right about anything.

Pete, who supported slavery and Jim Crow, and who fought against it? Can you answer that, please?

"The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal cult"

What I've said, is that the media and academia have a liberal bias. I'm not saying that they can never be fair, or that they're always wrong. I'm saying they're biased, and the data bears that out.

The Russia investigation was, precisely, a worthless political witch hunt. That doesn't mean I defend everything Trump has done. But that was a sham.

"Hillary-Russia-Obama-FBI collusion, so we must investigate that. "

The Steele dossier, in particular, was a mockery of justice, a political weapon used by people who hate Trump, to violate the rights of a US citizen.

"The liberal academic establishment prevents conservative voices from getting plum faculty jobs"

Obviously, irrefutably true, especially teaching jobs in the humanities and liberal arts.

Man you are a kook.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If you listen to Pete spew what he has been taught to spew, you'll hear that democrats are never wring about anything, republicans are never right about anything.

Pete, who supported slavery and Jim Crow, and who fought against it? Can you answer that, please?


"The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal cult"

What I've said, is that the media and academia have a liberal bias. I'm not saying that they can never be fair, or that they're always wrong. I'm saying they're biased, and the data bears that out.

The Russia investigation was, precisely, a worthless political witch hunt. That doesn't mean I defend everything Trump has done. But that was a sham.

"Hillary-Russia-Obama-FBI collusion, so we must investigate that. "

The Steele dossier, in particular, was a mockery of justice, a political weapon used by people who hate Trump, to violate the rights of a US citizen.

"The liberal academic establishment prevents conservative voices from getting plum faculty jobs"

Obviously, irrefutably true, especially teaching jobs in the humanities and liberal arts.

Man you are a kook.

I’ve rebutted everyone of your claims before, if the basis of your beliefs is that the Republican Party is still the Party of Lincoln and the Democratic Party is the Party of George Wallace and Bull Connor, you are stupid.

You still haven’t read the Mueller report or the Steele dossier.

If you think the Steele raw intelligence report is all made up, just what did Paul Manafort not “rat out” Trump for and then get pardoned? What was Roger Stone pardoned for?
Did Trump have deals in Russia?

Just how are your great speakers Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro, Charles Murray, and Ann Coulter disrupted, nothing makes them happier, In some instances, they seem to invite, and delight in, disruption. Anything to enhance their victimization.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

you are stupid.


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atta boy.....

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

atta boy.....

Atta boy, you missed the statement

“I’ve rebutted everyone of your claims before, if the basis of your beliefs is that the Republican Party is still the Party of Lincoln and the Democratic Party is the Party of George Wallace and Bull Connor, you are stupid.”
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No Jim,
Radical Republicans ended slavery, not conservatives.
And the end of the Jim Crow era with the aid of the Northern Democrats pushed Southern Conservatives to the Republican Party.

However it came about, many Southern Democrats, or at least their children, joined Southern Republicans to form majorities, and, in conjuction with those Republican majorities, the South gradually became less racist.

I don’t have any need to hide my views on abortion, I don’t think we’re required to believe in your religion.

So then, Jim wanted to know why the word abortion is so persistently replaced by euphemisms such as "women's health"?

Sorry but I think public education is important, not perfect but needed.
Left to their own conservatives would have no federal support for education.
And then if every state was as poorly educated as Republican controlled states, we’d have more Trumps and DeSantis’
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Federal support for education, especially when it's used as a lever to dictate what and how is to be taught, is an unconstitutional power grab by Progressive authoritarians who are transforming us into an unlimited form of centralized government.

The public school teachers in the Republican controlled states graduated from the same Progressive education departments that dictate the programs of the vast majority of American colleges and universities. So the Republican controlled states are being educated just as well or poorly as the other states. Culture pretty much decides the amount and quality of what is learned. The quality of the learning of most black students in Democrat controlled states would be considered poorly educated. As well so for culturally backward whites. And the federal government has not provided an authoritarian solution to that problem. On the contrary, it seems to exacerbate the problem by not demanding, in its beneficent authoritarian way, that culturally backward families get their $hit together. Rather, it deems giving those folks more security and goodies will somehow transform their ways.

Of course, that gives the political power grabbers some statistical fodder to demand more power.

[Pete F.]

Ah yes all truth comes from YouTube
There’s some good stuff on there
This guy
https://youtu.be/0ctJ6Lkjdi4
And this guy
https://youtu.be/zJKXeOgXa4Q
Or this guy
https://youtu.be/c2Oxw7B6E3c
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ah yes all truth comes from YouTube
There’s some good stuff on there
This guy
https://youtu.be/0ctJ6Lkjdi4
And this guy
https://youtu.be/zJKXeOgXa4Q
Or this guy
https://youtu.be/c2Oxw7B6E3c
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I hesitate to click a link that you post.....but my link is an Opposing Views podcast that was done on CRT with some emphasis on how it has been inserted into our education system...the content is pretty interesting from both sides...can you handle an opposing view without losing your mind pete?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

I can you handle an opposing view without losing your mind pete?

none of them can, not a one.
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[Pete F.]

Sorry, but even you with a little help could post on YouTube

“I saw it on the computer” doesn’t come close to making it true
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