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01-25-2019, 02:56 PM
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Shut down ends
About time ... now well see who were the winners and who were the losers
the deal sounds like the original deal
but had to throw this in ....
If we don't get a fair deal from Congress the government will either shut down on February 15 again.
"Or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the constitution of the United States to address this emergency."
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01-25-2019, 03:48 PM
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Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.
Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.
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01-25-2019, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.
Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.
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He's gonna get pummeled on this issue, without question. |
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01-25-2019, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.
Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.
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Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.
So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one.... |
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01-25-2019, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cool Beans
Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.
So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....
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was that the shutdown during obama’s presidency? federal workers missed a paycheck? there sure wasn’t anywhere near this
much concern.
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01-25-2019, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Beans
Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.
So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....
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Perhaps if you were a janitor or TSA employee you’d think differently. I remember living paycheck to paycheck at one time.
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01-25-2019, 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Perhaps if you were a janitor or TSA employee you’d think differently. I remember living paycheck to paycheck at one time.
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but where was the media uproar last time? i agree shutdowns hurt innocent people, i’m just not sure that people
furloughed by trump are more victimized than people
furloughed under obama, but the media coverage, like in every other issue, reflects an agenda.
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01-25-2019, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
but where was the media uproar last time? i agree shutdowns hurt innocent people, i’m just not sure that people
furloughed by trump are more victimized than people
furloughed under obama, but the media coverage, like in every other issue, reflects an agenda.
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There was one but the climate is different now. Trump is going to hype everything and the entire system is going to respond in kind.
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01-25-2019, 07:45 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well said!
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01-25-2019, 08:23 PM
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Everything bad that has ever happened,Wayne can link to the Republican Party. He is what is known as a real snowflake. I can tell he is not fronting.
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01-25-2019, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Everything bad that has ever happened,Wayne can link to the Republican Party. He is what is known as a real snowflake. I can tell he is not fronting.
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Again you can't accept the facts how typical |
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01-25-2019, 08:51 PM
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spence you say phillips
de escalated things. by lying about every detail? calling the kids beasts, calling the black men their pray, saying the kid got in his path, saying the kids were chanting build
the wall?
All bullsh*t, all irrefutable bullsh*t, all designed to demonize children. Children. and they got death threats, because people
like you got chubbies at the thought of white catholics in maga hats picking on an innocent, victimized native american elder.
yeah, you go on thinking that Phillips helped the children.
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01-25-2019, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
spence you say phillips
de escalated things. by lying about every detail? calling the kids beasts, calling the black men their pray, saying the kid got in his path, saying the kids were chanting build
the wall?
All bullsh*t, all irrefutable bullsh*t, all designed to demonize children. Children. and they got death threats, because people
like you got chubbies at the thought of white catholics in maga hats picking on an innocent, victimized native american elder.
yeah, you go on thinking that Phillips helped the children.
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I can call your local crisis center. You ok?
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01-25-2019, 09:40 PM
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Can we just start the damn civil war already? This site is a perfect example of how we will never agree on anything.
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01-25-2019, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Cool Beans
Can we just start the damn civil war already? This site is a perfect example of how we will never agree on anything.
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NO WE CANT
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01-26-2019, 05:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Beans
Can we just start the damn civil war already?
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it's coming...thankfully, while the left has been collecting safe spaces and emotional support pets...the right has been collecting guns and stockpiling ammo...
may the odds be ever in your favor...  |
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01-26-2019, 10:58 AM
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Thank you for making my point
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01-26-2019, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Thank you for making my point
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It’s not the hat it’s the brand.
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01-26-2019, 09:28 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Cost of shut down 6 billion to US economy, not to mention the cost to the government workers, in a couple weeks we can keep on winning as the next round of the most dysfunctional government continues with probably an emergency declaration. Shouldn’t an emergency be more pressing than waiting a month, must be a glaring “humanitarian” emergency.
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01-27-2019, 10:22 AM
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The kids were shouted down and oppressed by the other groups. Victims,simply for wearing a hat that left wing haters view as racist.
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01-27-2019, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
The kids were shouted down and oppressed by the other groups. Victims,simply for wearing a hat that left wing haters view as racist.
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the kids families retained the top libel/slander attorney in the business. i hope they get filthy rich, which will give the commies here another reason to hate them.
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01-27-2019, 10:47 AM
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I think an apology is in order.
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01-28-2019, 02:06 PM
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The Republican president said he doubts he would lower the sum he is prepared to accept for a US-Mexico border wall.
Here we go agin drawing lines in the sand
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01-28-2019, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
The Republican president said he doubts he would lower the sum he is prepared to accept for a US-Mexico border wall.
Here we go agin drawing lines in the sand
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but when the house democrats submitted a budget that had $1 for a wall, what was that? reasonable
negotiations?
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01-28-2019, 02:26 PM
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Sure looks like somebody else likes to draw lines too..
"Are you willing to come up and give him some of this money for the wall?" NBC's Savannah Guthrie asked Pelosi in an interview slated to air in full Thursday.
"No, no. Nothing for the wall," Pelosi replied. "We're talking about border security."
"We can go through this all back and forth -- no," Pelosi added. "How many more times can we say no? Nothing for the wall."
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-28-2019, 02:40 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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If I were a government worker and could make a jump to the private sector, I'd be sending out my resume. There will be no funding for the wall, so it's either another shutdown to further beat down the 800,000+ extended families and the economy takes a further hit, or it's the emergency declaration. The later is sure to be challenged in court, because the last time I checked in Webster Dictionary, it didn't describe something that took 2 years to figure out.
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01-28-2019, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
If I were a government worker and could make a jump to the private sector, I'd be sending out my resume. .
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Me too. The government doesn't care about us, it serves its own interests. I wouldn't want those idiots, of both parties, within 100 miles of my compensation. |
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01-28-2019, 02:38 PM
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Canceled
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Trumps original budget before it grew by 350%
"Critical investments include $1.6 billion for construction of the border wall and $782 million to hire and
support 2,750 additional law enforcement officers and agents at U.S. Customs and Border Protection
(CBP) and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)."
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...get-fy2019.pdf |
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