VOTE THEM OUT IN NOVEMBER !

[Raider Ronnie]

Can someone come up with a list and post it of how each congressmen voted ?

[stcroixman]

not to worry. Every republican opponent will have their say. This November will be a bloodbath for the Dem's.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by stcroixman

not to worry. Every republican opponent will have their say. This November will be a bloodbath for the Dem's.

Doubtful. The Party of No vs. the Party of Distribution. As usual, it will all come down to who pissed of the Independents most in the 3-6 months prior to the election... well, that and who has the most successful smear campaign in each race.

Will the Dems lose a bunch of seats? Certainly, possibly to the point of the GOP gaining control of the House, but I don't think it will be the bloodbath that Conservatives are hoping for.

[PaulS]

It will be an incumbant beat down.

[scottw]

don't you have an unsettled feeling that the Creep-O- Crats have alternative plans for November? With the precedent now set, I wouldn't put anything past them....

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Doubtful. The Party of No vs. the Party of Distribution. As usual, it will all come down to who pissed of the Independents most in the 3-6 months prior to the election... well, that and who has the most successful smear campaign in each race.

Will the Dems lose a bunch of seats? Certainly, possibly to the point of the GOP gaining control of the House, but I don't think it will be the bloodbath that Conservatives are hoping for.

See Johnny, that "might" have worked, but the Dems political strategy failed, how? See my post on "Liars". All the repubs need to do is share the letter WRITTEN BY OBAMA that suggested including the Republican measure into the Bill. Since only 1 of 4 was included, it is a clear example of one party rule, which people are generally against.

[PRBuzz]

DIVORCE AGREEMENT

American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, etc.

We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce..... I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course.

Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.

You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood



You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us... You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values... You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain.

You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you Answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J. Wall

Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, & Jane Fonda with you..

P. S. S. And we won't have to press 1 for English.

[scottw]

I'd happily take two oppressed, non-english speaking individuals from anywhere in the world who want to work for for freedom and prosperity and a better life for themselves and their children and send in exchange one Liberal Progressive who is searching for their Marxist Utopia and allow them to experiment elsewhere in an environment for more conducive to that which they desire...free shipping included!!....

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

See Johnny, that "might" have worked, but the Dems political strategy failed, how? See my post on "Liars". All the repubs need to do is share the letter WRITTEN BY OBAMA that suggested including the Republican measure into the Bill. Since only 1 of 4 was included, it is a clear example of one party rule, which people are generally against.

You assume that all voters are intelligent and pay a fair amount of attention to what's actually going on in politics. Pointing at a statement leading up to a HC vote and saying "See, we told you" isn't going to sway a large number of people. Also, anyone who didn't think the HC Summit was a smoke-and-mirrors show for both parties is out of their mind.

The largest benefit to campaigning Republicans right now is that they have 6 full months to sift through the encyclopedia sized bill and develop talking points (and a smear campaign) to try and sway Independents. Most Republican and Democrat voters will drink the koolaid of their respective parties.

Just like the Massachusetts election, Independents will dictate this next election. The Dems will lose a fair number of seats (and probably the House), but I don't think it will be as drastic as some think.

[PaulS]

I'd happily pay for his ticket if John Wall wants to move to Somalia. It must suck to have so much hate for your country that you want to split it in two. I bet he lives in one of those crappy red leaning mid-western or southern fly over states that have been dependant on the the blue states to keep them running. He's prob. goes to a public law school also that depends on gov't aide to keep it going.

[scottw]

[QUOTE=PaulS;756481] It must suck to have so much hate for your country that you want to split it in two. QUOTE]

I believe this is exactly what Obama and the democrats are currently doing....

are you more offended by a sarcastic article by someone in a crappy midwestern red state that doesn't want to see the ideaology that has bankrupted all of the blue states forced on him by the creeps that have taken over the federal government...or do you give any thought to what is actually taking place???

[PaulS]

yes, I'm more offended by the sentiment. If they feel bad for all the blue states, let them turn back all the money we've sent them. If they want modern roads, either pay for them or stop crying like babies about the blue states and accepting our $ (I view it the same as welfare). A thank you every once and a while would be appropriate.

I think the only creeps in the federal govern have been out of office for a little over 1 year. Why do you switch from Creep O Craps to democrats?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'd happily pay for his ticket if John Wall wants to move to Somalia. It must suck to have so much hate for your country that you want to split it in two. I bet he lives in one of those crappy red leaning mid-western or southern fly over states that have been dependant on the the blue states to keep them running. He's prob. goes to a public law school also that depends on gov't aide to keep it going.

His point is that no states should depend on the Federal Government to be financially viable. And it would be easier for states to "survive" on their own if they were allowed to tax their citizens at the rate the Federal government does, and that might be possible if the the Federal only taxed for purposes for which the Constitution provides to it. Actually, blue states receive, overall, more Federal return than red states, it's just that the reds get more back per capita. And there are many factors involved in that redistribution, including which party is in power. Most of the stats available now are from the Bush years. Over the next four to eight or more years, those stats and redistribution patterns may change. Factors like age of population (medicare/social security) account for much of the money. Certainly, type of wealth generated (manufacturing vs. agriculture) is a factor, and changing patterns in those sectors may change the redistribution of Federal money--the eroding manufacturing base in blue states like Michigan and Ohio will create a greater poverty redistribution. Several of the blue states that used to be economic powerhouses are now in greater financial distress. Of the 8 states that had unemployment over 11%, seven voted blue. Of the 14 astates that had budgets that exceeded 20% of their G.D.P., 12 voted blue.

If blue-staters don't like this Federal redistribution scheme, it would seem to their benefit to get the Federal Government less involved in takeover of what should be State and private business.

[Bocephus]

Isnt MA one of the most democratic states in the country?? It wasnt all independents and right wingers that put Scott Brown in. Can you say buyers remorse??

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Bocephus

Isnt MA one of the most democratic states in the country?? It wasnt all independents and right wingers that put Scott Brown in. Can you say buyers remorse??

According to Rasmussen:
"In the end, Brown pulled off the upset in large part because he won unaffiliated voters by a 73% to 25% margin. The senator-elect also picked up 23% of the vote from Democrats. [Our polling shows that 53% of voters in Massachusetts are Democrats, 21% Republican and 26% not affiliated with either party.] "

Like I said, Independents will be the deciding factor.

[Raider Ronnie]

Can we get this back on topic and someone post a list of how each congressmen voted ?

[PRBuzz]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Can we get this back on topic and someone post a list of how each congressmen voted ?

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll165.xml

This is how they voted the first time, we will have to wait and see how they do the second time around after the Senate force the bill back to the House for a second vote.

[Cool Beans]

Here's the list of how they voted.

how-they-voted

[Swimmer]

THOSE WHO VOTED AYE ARE TOAST.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'd happily pay for his ticket if John Wall wants to move to Somalia. It must suck to have so much hate for your country that you want to split it in two. I bet he lives in one of those crappy red leaning mid-western or southern fly over states that have been dependant on the the blue states to keep them running. He's prob. goes to a public law school also that depends on gov't aide to keep it going.

I believe some blue states are now going to require a federal bailout because of their liberal spending. Is that fair????

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

THOSE WHO VOTED AYE ARE TOAST.

I guess Reid will be all set them.

Reid casts wrong vote on health care for second time - CNN.com