The Stable Genius almost meets the Taliban

[Pete F.]

No, this tweet is not from Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, it’s our own.........Donnie!

Unbeknownst to almost everyone, the major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet with me at Camp David on Sunday. They were coming to the United States tonight. Unfortunately, in order to build false leverage, they admitted to..
...an attack in Kabul that killed one of our great great soldiers, and 11 other people. I immediately cancelled the meeting and called off peace negotiations. What kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position? They didn’t, they....
....only made it worse! If they cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don’t have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway. How many more decades are they willing to fight?

After their day at Camp David, would the president have invited the Taliban leaders to stay over for the commemorations of 9/11?

[Pete F.]

I find it SAD that the same people who vilified Ilhan Omar for speaking about Al Qaida, saying she was mocking 9/11, will defend Trump for inviting the very terrorist group that harbored Bin Laden in Afghanistan to Camp David just days before 9/11... mocking 9/11
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I find it SAD that the same people who vilified Ilhan Omar for speaking about Al Qaida, saying she was mocking 9/11, will defend Trump for inviting the very terrorist group that harbored Bin Laden in Afghanistan to Camp David just days before 9/11... mocking 9/11
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maybe they could stay in the Lincoln Bedroom....for a price

[Sea Dangles]

Cheer up PeteF, it’s banner night.
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[Jim in CT]

pete, if the taliban wanted to
end hostilities in a way that was good for the region and the world, trump shouldn’t help bring that about?

Omar said that 9/11 was “some people did something.”. if you’re ok with that, that’s your right. most people find it deeply offensive, i’ve concluded she wears a diaper on her head because she has sh*t for brains.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

pete, if the taliban wanted to
end hostilities in a way that was good for the region and the world, trump shouldn’t help bring that about?

Omar said that 9/11 was “some people did something.”. if you’re ok with that, that’s your right. most people find it deeply offensive, i’ve concluded she wears a diaper on her head because she has sh*t for brains.
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True colors showing
Citrus Caligula good
Any lies about anyone else good
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Omar said that 9/11 was “some people did something.”. if you’re ok with that, that’s your right.

How would you have stated it?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

How would you have stated it?

a terror attack of mass
murder. what the hell is wrong with you?
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[wdmso]

TRUMP suddenly no longer wants to be seen as negotiating with the Taliban?

He clearly thinks this will help his poll numbers
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[Pete F.]

Jim has never been able to take off his hate filled glasses long enough to read the transcript of what she said in context.
Muslims are more than 1% of the population of the US, over 3.5 million people and have the same rights as the rest of the population.

"Muslims for a really long time in this country have been told that there is a privilege, that there is a privilege that we are given, and it might be taken away. We are told that we should be appropriate, we should go to school, get an education, raise our children and not bother anyone, not make any kind of noise. Don’t make anyone uncomfortable — be a good Muslim. But no matter how much we have tried to be the best neighbor, people have always worked on finding a way to not allow for every single civil liberty to be extended to us.

So the truth is you can go to school and be a good student. You can listen to your dad and mom and become a doctor. You can have that beautiful wedding that makes mom and dad happy. You can buy that beautiful house. But none of that stuff matters if you one day show up to the hospital and your wife, or maybe yourself, is having a baby, and you can’t have the access that you need because someone doesn’t recognize you as fully human.

It doesn’t matter how good you were if you can’t have your prayer mat and take your 15-minute break to go pray in a country that was founded on religious liberty. It doesn’t matter how good you are if you one day find yourself in a school where other religions are talked about, but when Islam is mentioned, we are only talking about terrorists. And if you say something, you are sent to the principal’s office. So to me, I say, raise hell; make people uncomfortable.

Because here’s the truth — here’s the truth: Far too long, we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can’t just say that today someone is looking at me strange, that I am going to try to make myself look pleasant. You have to say, “This person is looking at me strange. I am not comfortable with it. I am going to go talk to them and ask them why.” Because that is a right you have."

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim has never been able to take off his hate filled glasses long enough to read the transcript of what she said in context.
Muslims are more than 1% of the population of the US, over 3.5 million people and have the same rights as the rest of the population.

"Muslims for a really long time in this country have been told that there is a privilege, that there is a privilege that we are given, and it might be taken away. We are told that we should be appropriate, we should go to school, get an education, raise our children and not bother anyone, not make any kind of noise. Don’t make anyone uncomfortable — be a good Muslim. But no matter how much we have tried to be the best neighbor, people have always worked on finding a way to not allow for every single civil liberty to be extended to us.

So the truth is you can go to school and be a good student. You can listen to your dad and mom and become a doctor. You can have that beautiful wedding that makes mom and dad happy. You can buy that beautiful house. But none of that stuff matters if you one day show up to the hospital and your wife, or maybe yourself, is having a baby, and you can’t have the access that you need because someone doesn’t recognize you as fully human.

It doesn’t matter how good you were if you can’t have your prayer mat and take your 15-minute break to go pray in a country that was founded on religious liberty. It doesn’t matter how good you are if you one day find yourself in a school where other religions are talked about, but when Islam is mentioned, we are only talking about terrorists. And if you say something, you are sent to the principal’s office. So to me, I say, raise hell; make people uncomfortable.

Because here’s the truth — here’s the truth: Far too long, we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can’t just say that today someone is looking at me strange, that I am going to try to make myself look pleasant. You have to say, “This person is looking at me strange. I am not comfortable with it. I am going to go talk to them and ask them why.” Because that is a right you have."

I think she got the CAIR date wrong but the sentiment is sound.

Remember at an airport one time and a Muslim man moved to a quiet place off to the side to do his prayers, the woman in the line in front of me asked her friend if they should call the police.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I think she got the CAIR date wrong but the sentiment is sound.

Remember at an airport one time and a Muslim man moved to a quiet place off to the side to do his prayers, the woman in the line in front of me asked her friend if they should call the police.

Wow, in a country of 330,000,000 you ran across a knucklehead, what are the chances of that happening.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim has never been able to take off his hate filled glasses long enough to read the transcript of what she said in context.
Muslims are more than 1% of the population of the US, over 3.5 million people and have the same rights as the rest of the population.

"Muslims for a really long time in this country have been told that there is a privilege, that there is a privilege that we are given, and it might be taken away. We are told that we should be appropriate, we should go to school, get an education, raise our children and not bother anyone, not make any kind of noise. Don’t make anyone uncomfortable — be a good Muslim. But no matter how much we have tried to be the best neighbor, people have always worked on finding a way to not allow for every single civil liberty to be extended to us.

So the truth is you can go to school and be a good student. You can listen to your dad and mom and become a doctor. You can have that beautiful wedding that makes mom and dad happy. You can buy that beautiful house. But none of that stuff matters if you one day show up to the hospital and your wife, or maybe yourself, is having a baby, and you can’t have the access that you need because someone doesn’t recognize you as fully human.

It doesn’t matter how good you were if you can’t have your prayer mat and take your 15-minute break to go pray in a country that was founded on religious liberty. It doesn’t matter how good you are if you one day find yourself in a school where other religions are talked about, but when Islam is mentioned, we are only talking about terrorists. And if you say something, you are sent to the principal’s office. So to me, I say, raise hell; make people uncomfortable.

Because here’s the truth — here’s the truth: Far too long, we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can’t just say that today someone is looking at me strange, that I am going to try to make myself look pleasant. You have to say, “This person is looking at me strange. I am not comfortable with it. I am going to go talk to them and ask them why.” Because that is a right you have."

you attacked TDFs daughters. But i’m the hate monger.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you attacked TDFs daughters. But i’m the hate monger.
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Whatever are you talking about?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Whatever are you talking about?
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Oh, you're a selective memory guy. Someone posted a pic of some less-than-beautiful women, you claimed they were his kids. That was classy. I called you out on it, don't pretend you don't remember, it wasn't long ago.

As for Omar, do you think she's bigoted against Jews, based on past comments?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Oh, you're a selective memory guy. Someone posted a pic of some less-than-beautiful women, you claimed they were his kids. That was classy. I called you out on it, don't pretend you don't remember, it wasn't long ago.

As for Omar, do you think she's bigoted against Jews, based on past comments?

He posted a picture of someone’s kids with the obvious intent to make fun of their appearance, pretty classy. I jabbed him and you, had a hissy fit.
I assume when the JUNIOR Representative from Minnesota comes up for election, her constituents will have the opportunity to make that decision.
She recognizes that ghettoizing Palestine is not a good thing and says so. How dare she criticize Israel. That doesn’t make her anti-semetic.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim has never been able to take off his hate filled glasses long enough to read the transcript of what she said in context.
Muslims are more than 1% of the population of the US, over 3.5 million people and have the same rights as the rest of the population.

"Muslims for a really long time in this country have been told that there is a privilege, that there is a privilege that we are given, and it might be taken away. We are told that we should be appropriate, we should go to school, get an education, raise our children and not bother anyone, not make any kind of noise. Don’t make anyone uncomfortable — be a good Muslim. But no matter how much we have tried to be the best neighbor, people have always worked on finding a way to not allow for every single civil liberty to be extended to us.

What is she talking about? The facts on the ground where I live prove that Muslims who do things the American way do succeed very well, on average, better than most other Americans. In Dearborn, where they are actually neighbors with non-Muslims, there isn't an effort to not allow civil liberties to Muslims. This is whining gibberish.

So the truth is you can go to school and be a good student. You can listen to your dad and mom and become a doctor. You can have that beautiful wedding that makes mom and dad happy. You can buy that beautiful house. But none of that stuff matters if you one day show up to the hospital and your wife, or maybe yourself, is having a baby, and you can’t have the access that you need because someone doesn’t recognize you as fully human.

Again, what is she talking about? Are there some isolated incidents of hospitals turning away Muslims because the staff doesn't consider them to be fully human?

It doesn’t matter how good you were if you can’t have your prayer mat and take your 15-minute break to go pray in a country that was founded on religious liberty. It doesn’t matter how good you are if you one day find yourself in a school where other religions are talked about, but when Islam is mentioned, we are only talking about terrorists. And if you say something, you are sent to the principal’s office. So to me, I say, raise hell; make people uncomfortable.

Again, what is she talking about? What 15 minute break are Muslims not allowed that other religions are allowed? What schools only talk about terrorism when Islam is discussed? Are there some teachers biased against Islam and show it in the classroom. Probably. As there are those who are biased against Christianity, or Judaism, or religion in general. There is a legal avenue in this country against such bias. That's way more than can be said about many other countries, especially Islamic ones.

Because here’s the truth — here’s the truth: Far too long, we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can’t just say that today someone is looking at me strange, that I am going to try to make myself look pleasant. You have to say, “This person is looking at me strange. I am not comfortable with it. I am going to go talk to them and ask them why.” Because that is a right you have."

Again, this is whining gibberish. Muslims in my neck of the country are anything but second class citizens. Go to Dearborn or southwest Detroit. There you will find Muslims living in a class WELL above second.

As far as not being comfortable about the way someone is looking at you, get over it. Most everyone else has. If you prove your merit in this country, your chances of rising above those looks is better than in most.

As for CAIR, the fact that she got its founding date, as well as its mission, wrong shows me that she not only got it wrong about America, but she even gets it wrong about her religion. Maybe she's just plain wrong.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Again, this is whining gibberish. Muslims in my neck of the country are anything but second class citizens. Go to Dearborn or southwest Detroit. There you will find Muslims living in a class WELL above second.

As far as not being comfortable about the way someone is looking at you, get over it. Most everyone else has. If you prove your merit in this country, your chances of rising above those looks is better than in most.

As for CAIR, the fact that she got its founding date, as well as its mission, wrong shows me that she not only got it wrong about America, but she even gets it wrong about her religion. Maybe she's just plain wrong.

Typical of the master of verbiage, much spoken, little said.

You just keep making accusations, attempting to marginalize, to discredit, without actually discussing the original issue.

It was "some people", but since you digress here is a little Calico Caligula on Muslims. By the way he's up to twenty tweets today.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Typical of the master of verbiage, much spoken, little said.

You just keep making accusations, attempting to marginalize, to discredit, without actually discussing the original issue.

It was "some people", but since you digress here is a little Calico Caligula on Muslims. By the way he's up to twenty tweets today.

the "something" they did, was murder 3,000 people, forcing more than a few to choose between burning to death, and jumping to their death. True or false?

You're pathetic.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Typical of the master of verbiage, much spoken, little said.

You just keep making accusations, attempting to marginalize, to discredit, without actually discussing the original issue.

It was "some people", but since you digress here is a little Calico Caligula on Muslims. By the way he's up to twenty tweets today.

Perhaps the sheer volume of anti-Trump threads and replies that you post gets a little difficult for you to keep up with. Don't know which original issue you're talking about, the stable genius and Taliban, Jared Kushner being a good kid for a yid, feel free to cut and paste, percentage of Jews and Arabs in Israel, what Israel is doing in Palestine, and more. But the issue I responded to was your post of the full context of Ilhan's "some people remark."

You created that issue, not me. If that was not discussing the original issue, then you're guilty of it. I responded to the context that you posted. And contrary to what you claim, I said a lot and I pointed out my rationale for saying it.

And then you end it by creating a new issue "Caligula on Muslims." Take a rest and get it together.

[Sea Dangles]

It’s good to stay vigilant. If more folks paid closer attention then the NY skyline might still be intact.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It’s good to stay vigilant. If more folks paid closer attention then the NY skyline might still be intact.
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The same could be said about Oklahoma City, and other domestic terror attacks, but the funding for that was cut.
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[Sea Dangles]

That proves my point,there is no such thing as being too careful.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

That proves my point,there is no such thing as being too careful.
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Then you might wonder why the Trumplicans cut the money to be vigilant about it.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Then you might wonder why the Trumplicans cut the money to be vigilant about it.
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I was responding to the clever story about the concerned citizen but nice attempt to paint the greatest president of our lifetime as somebody who would not ensure our safety. America first!
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I was responding to the clever story about the concerned citizen but nice attempt to paint the greatest president of our lifetime as somebody who would not ensure our safety. America first!
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There’s always a tweet
While @BarackObama is slashing the military, he is also negotiating with our sworn enemy the Taliban--who facilitated 9/11.
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[Pete F.]

I also think the world needs to look closely at what Israel is doing in Palestine.
She apologized for her tweet.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I also think the world needs to look closely at what Israel is doing in Palestine.
She apologized for her tweet.
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she always apologizes. then she does it again. if trump apologized for his tweets, would that be good enough for you?
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[Pete F.]

"But WHY would you invite the Taliban to Camp David, of all places."

"We ran a credit check on them, and it seemed unlikely they could contribute usefully to the revenue stream at the Trump hotel."
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[Pete F.]

This is what Ilhan was speaking of when she said "some People did something"