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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

it's a great example...when you are dragging folks that are here illegally up to the podium of your National Convention to speak...not to mention rallies and marches...well.......I have better things to do than to try to make you laugh....look in the mirror...that should suffice

like the north korea guy at the state of the union? to gin up support for attacking N korea ?

but the plight of an 11 year old America girl an the fear for her parents is an attempt to get elected?

id say they are both examples people just looking for a better life . wherever they can find it

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

like the north korea guy at the state of the union? to gin up support for attacking N korea ?

maybe I missed it....is he in the country illegally?

[spence]

Originally Posted by wdmso

like the north korea guy at the state of the union? to gin up support for attacking N korea ?

but the plight of an 11 year old America girl an the fear for her parents is an attempt to get elected?

id say they are both examples people just looking for a better life . wherever they can find it

The fear of a child is "sundry" ... not sure if he even know what that word means.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The fear of a child is "sundry" ... not sure if he even know what that word means.

actually..if you read..it reads,.... mom lives in fear of deportation...she's an adult....and since she's here illegally that would be a likely and legitimate fear/concern when you sneak in to a foreign country

[scottw]

collusion??

According to Mueller’s indictment:

" Defendants and their co-conspirators, through another ORGANIZATION-controlled group, organized a rally in New York called “Trump is NOT my President” held on or about November 12, 2016."

A check of their November 12 coverage showed both CNN and MSNBC gave enthusiastic coverage to the Russian-organized anti-Trump rally that day, with live reports every hour. Correspondents celebrated the idea that it was “a love rally,” and repeated the marchers’ anti-Trump mantras, such as: “We reject the President-elect.”

At one point, MSNBC anchor Alex Witt credulously responded to the rhetoric: “That woman, when she’s saying she’s concerned that black people will be shot in the street....Is that a legitimate concern for her? Because, that’s scary.”

Correspondent Morgan Radford cheerfully played along: “Alex, it’s not only a legitimate concern for her, it’s a legitimate concern for a lot of people I’ve spoken to....They’re wondering if this [Trump’s election] is almost a license to carry in terms of hate.”

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

collusion??

According to Mueller’s indictment:

" Defendants and their co-conspirators, through another ORGANIZATION-controlled group, organized a rally in New York called “Trump is NOT my President” held on or about November 12, 2016."

A check of their November 12 coverage showed both CNN and MSNBC gave enthusiastic coverage to the Russian-organized anti-Trump rally that day, with live reports every hour. Correspondents celebrated the idea that it was “a love rally,” and repeated the marchers’ anti-Trump mantras, such as: “We reject the President-elect.”

At one point, MSNBC anchor Alex Witt credulously responded to the rhetoric: “That woman, when she’s saying she’s concerned that black people will be shot in the street....Is that a legitimate concern for her? Because, that’s scary.”

Correspondent Morgan Radford cheerfully played along: “Alex, it’s not only a legitimate concern for her, it’s a legitimate concern for a lot of people I’ve spoken to....They’re wondering if this [Trump’s election] is almost a license to carry in terms of hate.”

I watched msnbc last night, and half-beast Rachael Maddow devoted ten minutes to a story in the NYT which cited an anonymous source in the trump administration, claiming that they were all happy that the FL shooting happened since it diverted media attention away from the rob porter sexual abuse allegations, at least for a few days. She (?) went on and on and on, about how horrible it is to have an administration that’s glad when kids get murdered.

With liberals in DC and in the media, if you’re not on their side, you are the epitome of evil. It’s not possible to have a principled opinion that’s different from theirs.
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[wdmso]

Jim you need to watch more of the Trump news network aka fox

I cant find any story you quoted... got a link?


https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/170274...dictment-trump

The data paints a clear story of how damaging it is for a media outlet to prioritize its defense of the president. In the past 72 hours, Fox News:

Limited its coverage of what the indictment actually reveals: evidence of foreign organizations trying to undermine American democracy
Drastically reduced coverage of the Florida school shooting to push pundits onto TV to say this story actually vindicates President Trump, even though it does nothing of the sort
Used a detail of the school shooting to push the narrative that the FBI, and by extension the Muller investigation, is flawed — and gave cover to President Trump

It’s easy to just chalk all this up to Fox News being Fox News. But Fox News is the main source of news for 19 percent of 2016 voters, including 40 percent of Trump voters. There’s academic evidence that Fox News is more powerful than we ever imagined. It’s a network that allows conspiracy theorists to make hay out of baseless lies. And to top it all off, there is evidence that the hosts see their jobs as advising Trump — talking directly to him — and that Trump sees them as his main information source.

[spence]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The data paints a clear story of how damaging it is for a media outlet to prioritize its defense of the president. In the past 72 hours, Fox News:

What I find so alarming is the effort to undermine our own institutions. It doesn't surprise me that Russia is actively perusing this but how many Americans, Republicans in Congress and even the POTUS are all complicit in enabling the Russian interference.

You can't make this stuff up.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim you need to watch more of the Trump news network aka fox

I cant find any story you quoted... got a link?


https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/170274...dictment-trump

The data paints a clear story of how damaging it is for a media outlet to prioritize its defense of the president. In the past 72 hours, Fox News:

Limited its coverage of what the indictment actually reveals: evidence of foreign organizations trying to undermine American democracy
Drastically reduced coverage of the Florida school shooting to push pundits onto TV to say this story actually vindicates President Trump, even though it does nothing of the sort
Used a detail of the school shooting to push the narrative that the FBI, and by extension the Muller investigation, is flawed — and gave cover to President Trump

It’s easy to just chalk all this up to Fox News being Fox News. But Fox News is the main source of news for 19 percent of 2016 voters, including 40 percent of Trump voters. There’s academic evidence that Fox News is more powerful than we ever imagined. It’s a network that allows conspiracy theorists to make hay out of baseless lies. And to top it all off, there is evidence that the hosts see their jobs as advising Trump — talking directly to him — and that Trump sees them as his main information source.

"I cant find any story you quoted... got a link?"

Here it is. Maddow spent ten minutes last night, telling her audience (me and Spence and 2 other suckers) how awful it is that a president would he happy that a school shooting took place. It never occurred to her, that the story might be made up.

The luxury of quoting a second-hand, anonymous source...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.e41b6e25176b

Funny, when Trump complained during the campaign that the election was being rigged, Obama told him to "stop whining", and then Obama proceeded to explain why a presidential election was too de-centralized to be interfered with.

Then as soon as Trump won, it was assumed it woul dbe easy for Russia to influence the outcome.

So when everyone thought Hilary was going to win in a landslide, it was paranoid to assume an election could ever be unfair. If she won, the outcome could not be questioned.

But when she lost? Something must be afoot!!

Do you see how obviously dishonest that is?