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Old 12-09-2019, 03:51 PM   #31
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He won't respond bc he doesn't know what to say.
You are not playing dumb.
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:53 PM   #32
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i don’t see responding, and having the ability to move on, as being mutually exclusive. Your frustration is showing. Remember to save yourself some room for foaming at the mouth, for when we get closer to the election.
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What would lead you to believe I was frustrated? As I said, I don't feel the need to constantly post - pretty much every day of the year, multiple times a day like you do.

I'm not foaming at the mouth. If you want to see a real angry guy, look at the loser who made this post:


vague insults from a little
twerp who can never criticize his own side or compliment the other side. bleating of the sheep XXXX, that’s 90% of what you do. what did i stay exactly, that was wrong?

from a guy who literally couldn’t bring himself
to showup here for weeks after the election.
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:54 PM   #33
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We are lucky to have heroes that died so we can press 1 for English.
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Now I understand the problem, it's the brown people.

You've been victimized and need to take back what you see as “your” country from the recently arrived interlopers.
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What does my statement have to do with skin color?

Oh...and No, I am not a victim but you sure are creative.👍🏿
This is OUR country. All citizens that is.
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Then what does this statement mean, are you just celebrating diversity?

"We are lucky to have heroes that died so we can press 1 for English."
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Try some critical thinking for a change.
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You know exactly what I mean so stop playing dumb.
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You must just be too obtuse or deep for me to understand.

They told me if I voted for Clinton thousands more troops would be deployed to the Middle East..

Trump's impeachment is more popular than Trump has ever been.

We are the first Americans to see 2 presidential impeachment trials in our lifetimes.
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:55 PM   #34
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I'm not foaming at the mouth.

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ummmm...you want to dig up dead people....sooooo
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:57 PM   #35
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ummmm...you want to dig up dead people....sooooo
scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.
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Old 12-09-2019, 04:14 PM   #36
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scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.
Maybe you could deface a statue or headstones or something to help with that anger. Be sure to headbutt them a few times for good measure
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:15 PM   #37
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scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.
They were not traitors. Perhaps you couldn't answer if states are necessary because you don't understand why they were not traitors.

At the time, states had a lot more of their sovereignty intact than they do now. Their states had seceded from the union. They were patriots of the states they fought for, not traitors.

I understand Lincoln's argument that states could not secede without approval of the other states with whom they had a legal compact. But it wasn't clear then, nor totally so now, that the southern states did not have the right to secede. It certainly would be unfair to ask the average southerner what the complicated legal arguments were.

They fought with the same fidelity for their country as did the Union soldiers. Their sovereign states were their primary country, and the Confederacy was the new union to which their states belonged.

Lincoln understood that and saw no need to compound unnecessary animosities and to recognize the tragedy of brothers, literal or national, who were called to so brutally slaughter each other. Lincoln was not at all happy about having to kill so much of the flowering manhood of the South. He would have been repulsed by your point of view.

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Old 12-09-2019, 05:30 PM   #38
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scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.

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Old 12-09-2019, 06:46 PM   #39
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I don't understand how anybody can support those POS still being in the same spots w/our heroes. Too bad you don't understand.

350 thousand Union soldier casualties and thousands of others to keep this country together and yet we are re-litigating everything today all over again.


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They were pardoned Paul, every single one of them. In order to heal the country and move forward. I know that’s a foreign concept to those still pissing and moaning about Columbus Day, but I’ve moved on from it.
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They were not traitors. Perhaps you couldn't answer if states are necessary because you don't understand why they were not traitors.

At the time, states had a lot more of their sovereignty intact than they do now. Their states had seceded from the union. They were patriots of the states they fought for, not traitors.

I understand Lincoln's argument that states could not secede without approval of the other states with whom they had a legal compact. But it wasn't clear then, nor totally so now, that the southern states did not have the right to secede. It certainly would be unfair to ask the average southerner what the complicated legal arguments were.

They fought with the same fidelity for their country as did the Union soldiers. Their sovereign states were their primary country, and the Confederacy was the new union to which their states belonged.

Lincoln understood that and saw no need to compound unnecessary animosities and to recognize the tragedy of brothers, literal or national, who were called to so brutally slaughter each other. Lincoln was not at all happy about having to kill so much of the flowering manhood of the South. He would have been repulsed by your point of view.
Col Robert E Lee resigned his commission from the US Army when he was asked by General Winfield Scott to take the reigns of the US Army. But to take command of the US Army would required Lee to invade his home state of Virginia. Would you attack CT if directed so from New York regardless of the reason? I do not condone his fighting for the CSA but I can understand when he said he had no desire to draw a sword except in the defense of his home state, which was Virginia, and his home, which is now (appropriately IMO) Arlington National Cemetery.

A terrible war, mismanaged by both sides, as a result of bad politicians and politics on both sides, and a horrible reconstruction afterward.

Many of the points being re-litigated today were resolved then and the ones that were not (subjugating black people for example) we need to a better job on fixing and making fair today. Revisionist history and re-contesting of 150 years ago under today's standards is entirely unfair, unjust, and impossible without serious consequences.

The debt to keep this country together was paid for in blood, 150 years ago.

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Old 12-09-2019, 07:37 PM   #40
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I am sure Paul would have run away from the problem like a good liberal.
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:59 PM   #41
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I know I wouldn't have claimed I have bunions.

And I know i would never run away from you.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:03 PM   #42
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They were not traitors. Perhaps you couldn't answer if states are necessary because you don't understand why they were not traitors.

At the time, states had a lot more of their sovereignty intact than they do now. Their states had seceded from the union. They were patriots of the states they fought for, not traitors.

I understand Lincoln's argument that states could not secede without approval of the other states with whom they had a legal compact. But it wasn't clear then, nor totally so now, that the southern states did not have the right to secede. It certainly would be unfair to ask the average southerner what the complicated legal arguments were.

They fought with the same fidelity for their country as did the Union soldiers. Their sovereign states were their primary country, and the Confederacy was the new union to which their states belonged.

Lincoln understood that and saw no need to compound unnecessary animosities and to recognize the tragedy of brothers, literal or national, who were called to so brutally slaughter each other. Lincoln was not at all happy about having to kill so much of the flowering manhood of the South. He would have been repulsed by your point of view.
Lighten up.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:50 PM   #43
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I know I wouldn't have claimed I have bunions.

And I know i would never run away from you.
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I don’t plan on chasing you so don’t you fret, tough guy.
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