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04-11-2016, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Not based on that information alone.
Aha . . . the Clintonesque parsing of words . . .
It's no secret that as NY Senator Clinton developed a good relationship with Corning which actually was part of her job.
Oh, really? It's a Senator's job to develop relationships with individual businesses in their State? Did she touch base with all the mom and pop stores in NY? Or all the other businesses? Did she develop better "relationships" with businesses which didn't contribute money to her?
If it's crony capitalism or not would really depend on the dynamics of the relationship.
It's crony CAPITALISM. It's about capital, about money. Giving money for influence and favors and advantage over competitors. Getting money to pay for acquisition of power. Returning favors, influence, and privilege in order to maintain power. You know . . . the everyday politics which drives our oligarchic system of "relationships" between BIG business and BIG government. That's the type of "dynamic" that voters, with at least a marginal awareness of how we are ruled, are angry about. And Hillary is good at preaching what she will do for the little guy while she gets her back scratched by the big guys.
If Clinton's back is scratched for helping Corning with funding or a trade issue that's beneficial for the US economy Corning which was a big contributor to HIllary's political campaigns and her foundation or its workers, that's not the same thing as routing tax dollars for weapons the DoD doesn't want or a bridge to nowhere... No, not the"same" kind of cronyism, just one of the different kinds.
It's also wrong to assume that just because money is changing there's an under the table deal in play.
And it's wrong to assume that there isn't.
Often the business interest who's working the hardest by paying the most to educate  the legislator will shape their opinion and certainly gain influence.
Yup, gaining influence. That's one of the purposes of crony capitalism.
I'd note that as Sec State she helped other big US businesses beyond Corning. |
I'd note that our political oligarchs need to "help" more than one "big" business. The more they "help," the more they can entrench their power. |
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04-11-2016, 04:07 PM
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04-11-2016, 04:28 PM
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The problem is your candidate is a poor decision maker. This is really not up for debate, it just happens to be highlighted due to the fact she is running for president. Other than that Mrs Lincoln,did you enjoy the play?
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04-11-2016, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
The problem is your candidate is a poor decision maker. This is really not up for debate, it just happens to be highlighted due to the fact she is running for president. Other than that Mrs Lincoln,did you enjoy the play?
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Considering her lengthy and impressive resume, to call out an issue over email hosting as a definitive measure is pretty insignificant and trite. |
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04-11-2016, 07:21 PM
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Jeff, you are on the Hillary bandwagon regardless of the shortcomings. You have zero credibility when it comes to evaluating her accomplishments. Picture Slip as a line judge for a Pats game and you may understand my point more clearly. I am guessing Hillary could eat your young and you would grant her a pardon.
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04-13-2016, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
You have zero credibility when it comes to evaluating her accomplishments.
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Please expand. |
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04-13-2016, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Please expand.
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For starters, you don't think she lied about coming under sniper fire. Let's say you are a wee bit hesitant to be critical of those you adore. |
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04-13-2016, 09:31 AM
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Softball?
You are Hillarys lackey Jeff. Apologist,need I go on. I honestly think you would hand wash her underpants. You can not evaluate her with clarity and you have proven that countless times.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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04-13-2016, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Softball?
You are Hillarys lackey Jeff. Apologist,need I go on. I honestly think you would hand wash her underpants. You can not evaluate her with clarity and you have proven that countless times.
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Oh, you're breaking my heart. It's precisely the clarity with which I evaluate that I think you can't deal with. |
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04-13-2016, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Oh, you're breaking my heart. It's precisely the clarity with which I evaluate that I think you can't deal with.
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Get out the washboard,no making tea either,just washy.
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04-14-2016, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
It's precisely the clarity with which I evaluate
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even funnier... |
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04-14-2016, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
You are Hillarys lackey Jeff.
I honestly think you would hand wash her underpants.
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that was damn funny  |
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04-14-2016, 04:10 PM
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Do you guys know about the Hillary fund? The fund gives huge contributions to super delegates if they support her.
This is so #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up.
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04-27-2016, 03:47 PM
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“Now we know the Obama administration consciously refused to give up key information about Hillary Clinton’s email in 2014, said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton."
of course they did
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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04-27-2016, 03:48 PM
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doesn't get more clear than that |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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04-27-2016, 04:04 PM
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time to go
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
doesn't get more clear than that
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That's the way I see it too, I just was trying to put some sugar on top for spence. 
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04-27-2016, 04:41 PM
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This is made up news, wait, it's not even actually news.
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04-27-2016, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
This is made up news, wait, it's not even actually news.
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so it's on snopes as made up then?
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-02-2016, 07:20 PM
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http://rare.us/story/the-government-...investigation/
It’s official: the Justice Department has publicly recognized that its investigation into former secretary of state Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server is a criminal probe, not a “security review.”
Is this made up news too?
looks for real to me
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-02-2016, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
http://rare.us/story/the-government-...investigation/
It’s official: the Justice Department has publicly recognized that its investigation into former secretary of state Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server is a criminal probe, not a “security review.”
Is this made up news too?
looks for real to me
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Nope, that's not at all what that story says. I'd note that the Judge doesn't have a great track record on facts either.
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05-03-2016, 06:55 AM
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I'd note that the Judge doesn't have a great track record on facts either.
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How ironic......neither does Hillary.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-03-2016, 06:05 PM
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Spence will have a job in her cabinet
Chief underpants sniffer😹😷
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05-04-2016, 08:13 AM
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I'd vote for trump before Hillary, and a LOT of Bernie supporters would as well. Not that we think trump is what we want. Bernie will be the next Ralph Nader and disrupt a democratic victory.
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05-04-2016, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
I'd vote for trump before Hillary, and a LOT of Bernie supporters would as well. Not that we think trump is what we want. Bernie will be the next Ralph Nader and disrupt a democratic victory.
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You'd be an outlier then, Sanders platform doesn't map to trump at all. At the end of the day people will care less about the past and more about what they think the candidate can do for them. |
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05-04-2016, 10:21 AM
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You'd be an outlier then, Sanders platform doesn't map to trump at all. At the end of the day people will care less about the past and more about what they think the candidate can do for them.
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All I see is Hillary polarizing this country more than Obama has
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05-04-2016, 10:12 AM
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vermont sucks
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05-04-2016, 10:30 AM
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05-04-2016, 10:41 AM
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Term limits for direct family members and term limits in congress and senate please !
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05-04-2016, 12:02 PM
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time to go
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Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9836720
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