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Old 01-04-2008, 09:18 AM   #1
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Iraq?

Are we still at war? Have all the soliders come home? I havent heard a word in weeks (maybe months?) about how things are going?

Could it be......things are improving? Getting worse? Could it be that the media does not want to bring it up so it will interfere with the primaries? The war is not a good thing for Dems or Repubs, no one has a plan.....

whats the deal?

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Old 01-04-2008, 09:21 AM   #2
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Ignore it and it goes away?
Surge or no surge, 2007 was still the deadliest (US soldier deaths) year so far...
why I hate the media as well. Push it to the back for now, and critique later. Whatever happens I am now convinced without permanent occupation, it will never change, lets get our boys home!!!

and FYI, while I was getting ready for work, I had the TV on...
Today Show this AM.
Primary
primary
primary
Brittany spears
bomb in Turkey
more primary news....
WTF

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Old 01-04-2008, 09:24 AM   #3
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seriously, I've been thinking about this for a few weeks, other the Christmas attention, there has been no news about the war. Pretty sad.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:34 AM   #4
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For the most part I think the primaries are simply pushing most everything out of the way.

Although the improved security situation has been covered in depth by the EVIL LIBERAL MAINSTREAM MEDIA by my reconing.

Iraq is in a pretty interesting place right now.

Violence appears to be down mostly due to Sunni leadership playing ball rather than shooting at our troops. It would seem that they've realized they can't regain power if they're dead. The police/military has also matured a bit and is able to maintain some level of control without the murderous tangents they were prone to the last few years. The Mahdi army has stood down as well making their job a little easier.

The problem is there's still nearly zero political progress to provide any lasting stability.

Best case: The lull in violence gives the factions some time to think about the future and compramise to solve some problems. Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia don't exacerbate tensions.

Worst case: The factions are just waiting for US troops levels to drop before fighting it out to regain control. Conflict spreads to the entire region in one shape or another.

This could come to a head in a few months as it's expected that we're going to draw down some troops and the Iraqi government is going to get turned I believe.

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in depth????

please provide some evidence, I have not see squat on the war in weeks.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:39 AM   #6
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oh by the way - the primaries are not pushing the Jamie Lynn Spears news or Britney in the hospital news out of the way

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:41 AM   #7
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yup CNN is all over it..........

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in depth????

please provide some evidence, I have not see squat on the war in weeks.
Evidence

Sorry, I haven't been keeping good notes on my media habbits given the holidays

You're just going to have to trust me here.

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:11 PM   #9
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I subscribe to US news and World report, Time and Newsweek. I listen to multiple news and talk radio stations for roughly 2hrs a day. i brwose CNN and Yahoo news routinley throughout the day. Nada on Iraq for a long time.......

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:12 PM   #10
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yup CNN is all over it..........

Latest News
Huckabee, Obama win big in Iowa
Get full results of the Iowa caucus
Analysis: Iowa is over, now what?
Ticker: Romney ready for McCain 'battle'
Watch caucus-night speeches
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WESH: Freeze causes rain of frozen iquanas
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Women stuck 2 days in elevator 30 min
Zoo animals keep warm during cold snap
Mayor to town: Lose 1 million pounds
CNN Wire: Latest updates on top stories
Lists like these are often driven by what people are reading, it's not a conscious editorial decision to keep Iraq off of the front page and further the manipulation of public opinion by the EVIL LIBERAL MAINSTREAM MEDIA.

Besides, if you click on World News on the CNN homepage you get...

...GASP...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Good news in IRAQ? It must be a web server error

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:22 PM   #11
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i give up

Freeze causes rain of frozen iquanas takes a headline over a key Al Queda leader being killed and its my imagination.

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:46 PM   #12
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i give up

Freeze causes rain of frozen iquanas takes a headline over a key Al Queda leader being killed and its my imagination.
No, you're not paying attention.

Iquanas don't trump Iraq, but the recent events in Pakistan do. The homepage is a cross section of all news areas.

Iraq is under World News on CNN.com, along with other very substantial global events all about terrorisim and other stuff.

Musharraf denies Bhutto death role
Abu Sayyaf militants arrested
Key al Qaeda in Iraq deputy killed
North Korea vows to bolster 'war deterrent'
Turkish car bomb suspects arrested
Earthquake sends residents fleeing
Libya heads U.N. Security Council

I look on FOXNews, NYPost or National Review...all obvious Conservative choices and I get more of the same.

Heck, even the Weekly Standard (the neoconservative publication) doesn't really mention Iraq, aside from arguing that Gen. Petraeus should have been Time's man of the year.

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:54 PM   #13
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i never mentioned in this entire post that this was a liberal media push.

I do think that the fact that the war, the biggest issue in the us today, does not favor either party since none of the front runners dem or repub have any brilliant plans, is one of the reasons the ware has taken a back burner.

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:57 PM   #14
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Richardsons plan: get them out now... too bad he only garnered 2% in Iowa...

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Old 01-04-2008, 01:00 PM   #15
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i never mentioned in this entire post that this was a liberal media push.

I do think that the fact that the war, the biggest issue in the us today, does not favor either party since none of the front runners dem or repub have any brilliant plans, is one of the reasons the ware has taken a back burner.
I think it's because there have been some improvements...but nothing earth shattering...which is why it's not taking the spotlight from say...the ELECTION

And lookie here, right on the front page of the New York Times (an evil liberal mainstream media founding member) reporting good and positive things!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/wo...=1&oref=slogin

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Richardsons plan: get them out now... too bad he only garnered 2% in Iowa...
Biden clearly has the most thought out strategy (and one I agree with) but he's unfortunately dropped out.

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things could indeed be getting quieter there.

a detente with Iran over the nuke issue (we did extend an olive branch a few weeks ago, remember) ... goes a long way in curbing the violence in Iraq.

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a detente with Iran over the nuke issue (we did extend an olive branch a few weeks ago, remember) ... goes a long way in curbing the violence in Iraq.
We should have made them beg for mercy after we invaded Afghanistan...it would have been easy.

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Lists like these are often driven by what people are reading, it's not a conscious editorial decision to keep Iraq off of the front page and further the manipulation of public opinion by the EVIL LIBERAL MAINSTREAM MEDIA.

Besides, if you click on World News on the CNN homepage you get...

...GASP...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Good news in IRAQ? It must be a web server error

-spence
Talk about a web server error.
Stock market is down to 12,800.
Oil is over $100 a barrel.
CITIgroup wrote down $12 Billion is subprime bad debt.
Unemployment is up.

What does our beloved president say.

The USA is fine and the economy is robust.
????????????????????????????????????????:wal l:

No boat, back in the suds.
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I think Patreus should have been Time's Man of the Year.

I think the guys are doing a good job over there and finally have some support from home. I still think regardless of whether we should have been in there or not to begin with that Bush, Cheney, & Rummy MAJORLY let our armed forces holding the bag over there

Oh, I don't spend too much time using the MSM as my news source...

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I think Patreus should have been Time's Man of the Year.

I think the guys are doing a good job over there and finally have some support from home. I still think regardless of whether we should have been in there or not to begin with that Bush, Cheney, & Rummy MAJORLY let our armed forces holding the bag over there

Oh, I don't spend too much time using the MSM as my news source...
It's sad that 10Bil/month an they actually DONT have said bag to hold....

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