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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

corporate America fleeces America and its worker ...

What do you base that on? have you ever worked in corporate America?

I have worked at Aetna, Travelers, The Hartford, and 2 small companies. Those companies creates thousands and thousands of good, middle class, white collar jobs, with good, dependable benefits.

Is corporate America perfect? Far from it. Is there widespread "fleecing" of the employees? Not even close.

As to the welfare stats. Most people thought you put whites first to imply that whites are the biggest welfare drain based on absolute numbers. I'd bet money that's what you were trying to convey, but I can't know. Many people feel that you need to look at how many welfare recipients there are for a given race, relative to the proportion that race make sup of the entire population. If whites make up X% of the general population, but more than X% of those on welfare, that whites are disproportionately on welfare. I don't think I said that well, hopefully it made sense.

I wasn't just trying to say that blacks are disproportionately poor, I tried to say other things too.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What do you base that on? have you ever worked in corporate America?

I have worked at Aetna, Travelers, The Hartford, and 2 small companies. Those companies creates thousands and thousands of good, middle class, white collar jobs, with good, dependable benefits.

Is corporate America perfect? Far from it. Is there widespread "fleecing" of the employees? Not even close.

As to the welfare stats. Most people thought you put whites first to imply that whites are the biggest welfare drain based on absolute numbers. I'd bet money that's what you were trying to convey, but I can't know. Many people feel that you need to look at how many welfare recipients there are for a given race, relative to the proportion that race make sup of the entire population. If whites make up X% of the general population, but more than X% of those on welfare, that whites are disproportionately on welfare. I don't think I said that well, hopefully it made sense.

I wasn't just trying to say that blacks are disproportionately poor, I tried to say other things too.

Its called History .. if you think there isn't widespread fleecing of workers you need to expand your search . 1 or 2 examples of Good business are no longer the norm they are the exception ..

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Its called History .. if you think there isn't widespread fleecing of workers you need to expand your search . 1 or 2 examples of Good business are no longer the norm they are the exception ..

Maybe YOU need to expand your search:

http://www.heritage.org/jobs-and-lab...owing-together

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Its called History .. if you think there isn't widespread fleecing of workers you need to expand your search . 1 or 2 examples of Good business are no longer the norm they are the exception ..

I'm not sure why hourly compensation is expected to move in exact proportion to productivity...and if it doesn't, I'm not sure why that's indicative of companies "fleecing" their workers.

I do know that we have all kinds of laws that regulate how companies must treat employees, and that many companies go beyond what's required by law. Not every private company is a sweat shop owned by a sinister billionaire.

I'll ask again, have you aver worked in corporate America?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Its called History .. if you think there isn't widespread fleecing of workers you need to expand your search . 1 or 2 examples of Good business are no longer the norm they are the exception ..

I think you need to rethink your word "fleecing ". Getting the most out of a worker is good business . If you ran a company you would do the same thing or you wouldn't own company for long . You always need to be competitive . Nowadays workers feel they are protected from being fired and some take advantage of that .
Bottom line... if you don't work hard , always strive for better and never settle , then I have no sympathy for you and niether should the government or anyone else .
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