Jussie Smullett hoax

[Jim in CT]

what would Smollett have done, if two white people were arrested for the crime he likely fabricated?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Well, he's officially been named a suspect by the police for perpetrating a hoax. Dumbass
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[nightfighter]

POS race baiter.....

So will just wait and see if and how the aforementioned comments are addressed in the coming days....

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well, he's officially been named a suspect by the police for perpetrating a hoax. Dumbass
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.......and he's been charged.

PoS
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[nightfighter]

And that will be a felony charge......

[The Dad Fisherman]

I'm waiting patiently to hear the responses from Harris, Warren, and Spartacus about this, they went "All In" early

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I'm waiting patiently to hear the responses from Harris, Warren, and Spartacus about this, they went "All In" early

maxine waters, who isn’t as important as those folks, went further, laying the blame directly on Trump.

for social
justice warriors of the left, acquiring victim status for yourself is a badge of honor. anything to be seen as a victim of trumplicans. this guy really rubbed salt into the perpetually open racial wounds of our
culture, and he diverted police resources away from solving the dozen homicides which happen in chicago every weekend, but which get no media attention because liberals cant use those 500 murders a year, as a club against trump. so they don’t care.

and the liberals will learn nothing, as they learned nothing from the duke lacrosse case. when the circumstances of
an attack line up to fit the preferred liberal narrative, we don’t need an investigation, a rush to judgment is acceptable.
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[Got Stripers]

No cure for stupid, comes in all colors too.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

No cure for stupid, comes in all colors too.
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No there isn't, and yes it does

[PaulS]

Didn't Fox and Brietbart just accuse AOC of hiring her boyfriend when a simple call to her office would have cleared things up?

So your suggestion seems to be to wait until everything is finalized and some authourity says that it is ok to report the news.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Didn't Fox and Brietbart just accuse AOC of hiring her boyfriend when a simple call to her office would have cleared things up?

So your suggestion seems to be to wait until everything is finalized and some authourity says that it is ok to report the news.

here’s the difference between me and you. if fox did that, they should be ashamed, because politically motivated smear does nothing except undermine your credibility. plus i’m her case, there’s more than enough genuine stupidity to keep reporters busy, no need to fabricate or exaggerate.

who is going after the liberal politicians for jumping the gun?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here’s the difference between me and you. if fox did that, they should be ashamed, because politically motivated smear does nothing except undermine your credibility. plus i’m her case, there’s more than enough genuine stupidity to keep reporters busy, no need to fabricate or exaggerate.

who is going after the liberal politicians for jumping the gun?
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If the incident actually happened would you condemn it or wait until when?
If an illegal immigrant did something would you wait till after the conviction to decry it or do it at first report? Better look at past posts before you answer
Meanwhile your hero, who you don’t really like, called for the execution of 5 teenage boys for years and continued after they were exonerated, no issue there
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...50842901933961
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the incident actually happened would you condemn it or wait until when?
If an illegal immigrant did something would you wait till after the conviction to decry it or do it at first report? Better look at past posts before you answer
Meanwhile your hero, who you don’t really like, called for the execution of 5 teenage boys for years and continued after they were exonerated, no issue there
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...50842901933961
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if the incident actually happened, what have i ever said that would
make you question that i would
condemn it?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the incident actually happened would you condemn it or wait until when?
If an illegal immigrant did something would you wait till after the conviction to decry it or do it at first report? Better look at past posts before you answer
Meanwhile your hero, who you don’t really like, called for the execution of 5 teenage boys for years and continued after they were exonerated, no issue there
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...50842901933961
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do conservatives have a demonstrable history of faking crimes and blaming them on illegal
aliens, in order to make their point?

regardless, i have absolutely rushed to judgment and i shouldn’t. but it’s far worse when the media, hollywood, or politicians do it, as they have influence. i can’t even influence
my wife.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

do conservatives have a demonstrable history of faking crimes and blaming them on illegal
aliens, in order to make their point?

regardless, i have absolutely rushed to judgment and i shouldn’t. but it’s far worse when the media, hollywood, or politicians do it, as they have influence. i can’t even influence
my wife.
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Conservatives never make #^&#^&#^&#^& up


This morning we learned the utterly unsurprising news that the loon who’s—allegedly—been mailing crude bombs to every Democratic politician and TV talking head he could think of is—allegedly—a gentleman named Cesar Sayoc, who seems to be devoted to Donald Trump. And since then a few ordinarily chatty folks on Twitter have gone inexplicably radio silent.
Some talking heads in Trumpworld, you see, had backed themselves into a bit of a corner over the last few days, making increasingly bombastic pronouncements and speculations—they were just asking questions!—that the perpetrator was not a mentally imbalanced Republican, but a crooked, calculating #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& looking to drum up sympathy for the Democratic party before the midterms.

Dinesh D'Souza
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@DineshDSouza
Fake sexual assault victims. Fake refugees. Now fake mail bombs. We are all learning how the media left are masters of distortion, deflection & deception

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11:21 AM - Oct 25, 2018

Bill Mitchell

This guy Cesar is looking like a "sleeper" implanted by the Democrats just for such an occasion as this. I mean, c'mon, that van is ridiculous.

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12:24 PM - Oct 26, 2018

Candace Owens

Rush Limbaugh

Lou Dobbs

Ann Coulter


Donald Trump

Hey, don’t act so surprised! President Trump can never resist a good Twitter conspiracy, and he let rip with his own spin on the formula Friday morning:
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@realDonaldTrump
Republicans are doing so well in early voting, and at the polls, and now this “Bomb” stuff happens and the momentum greatly slows - news not talking politics. Very unfortunate, what is going on. Republicans, go out and vote!

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9:19 AM - Oct 26, 2018

That's just one issue, we could go into lies about immigrants and asylum seekers.

But never fear we can forgive conservatives ignorance of facts, though this is science and likely fake.

As of August 1, fact-checkers found that Donald Trump made 4,229 false or misleading statements during his brief presidency, enough to require a container ship to haul them whenever he travels abroad.

At the same time, he’s still supported by 91 percent of Republicans. Why the dichotomy? Science has an explanation.

The non-partisan Pew Research Center surveyed 5,000 people, presenting them with 10 statements -- five of which were factual, and five mere opinion – asking them to identify each. Across the board, people age 49 and under more accurately separated fact from pretense of fact. Or to put it less politely, those 50 and older were decidedly more gullible.



The reason, researchers speculate, is that younger people are more digitally savvy, and thus have more finely tuned bull#^&#^&#^&#^& meters. They’re also considerably more educated and less likely to identify with a specific party, meaning they’re less prone to confuse doctrine for truth.

This presents a problem for Republicans. As a general rule, the older you are, the more conservative you’re likely to be. Which leads us to a second study by Britain’s famed Oxford University.

Researchers there monitored 47,000 U.S. Facebook pages and 13,500 Twitter accounts, tracking who was mostly likely to read or peddle “junk news,” defined as sites that “deliberately publish misleading, deceptive or incorrect information.”


Their findings: “Hard-right” conservatives shared more fake news stories than all other groups combined. Despite their protestations, they’re also the largest consumers of fake news.

Combine the two studies, and one might conclude that conservatives aren’t propagating fraud on purpose. They simply can’t tell the difference. And that’s reflected in their choice of news outlets.

When Fairleigh #^&#^&#^&#^&inson University researchers tried to equate civic knowledge with various news sources, it asked people basic questions like, "Which party has the most seats in the House of Representatives?"

Viewers of Fox News, the televised arm of the GOP, scored at the bottom of 30 popular news sources. In fact, the survey found that viewers of Fox were less informed than people who followed no news at all.

So, dear reader, the next time you see online commenters talk of “crisis actors,” the “deep state,” or migrant gangs coming to take Minnesota’s lake homes, show some mercy. They know not what they speak.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the incident actually happened would you condemn it or wait until when?
If an illegal immigrant did something would you wait till after the conviction to decry it or do it at first report? Better look at past posts before you answer
Meanwhile your hero, who you don’t really like, called for the execution of 5 teenage boys for years and continued after they were exonerated, no issue there
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...50842901933961
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"I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.

— Donald Trump on Saturday, November 21st, 2015 in comments during a speech

Arguing that there are terrorist sympathizers in the United States, Donald Trump says he saw "thousands" of New Jerseyans celebrating after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down," the Republican presidential candidate said at a Nov. 21 rally in Birmingham, Ala. "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

The next day, ABC This Week host George Stephanopoulos asked Trump if he misspoke, noting that "the police say that didn't happen."

Trump -- who has said he was in his Manhattan apartment the morning of the attack -- doubled down.

"It was on television. I saw it," Trump said. "It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don't like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

"I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.

— Donald Trump on Saturday, November 21st, 2015 in comments during a speech

Arguing that there are terrorist sympathizers in the United States, Donald Trump says he saw "thousands" of New Jerseyans celebrating after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down," the Republican presidential candidate said at a Nov. 21 rally in Birmingham, Ala. "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

The next day, ABC This Week host George Stephanopoulos asked Trump if he misspoke, noting that "the police say that didn't happen."

Trump -- who has said he was in his Manhattan apartment the morning of the attack -- doubled down.

"It was on television. I saw it," Trump said. "It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don't like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good."

Here, a NJ police captain confirms Trump's claim. So who is lying?

https://nypost.com/2015/12/21/nj-pol...ebrate-on-911/

[PaulS]

No, the difference between you and me is that I don't comment on something that fox news does wrong. I realize mistake are made - especially with the 24 hr min. by min news cycle so I'm not petty enough to comment on everything I see wrong with fox and then start ranting about the right this, the right that. etc etc etc. blah blah blah cry cry cry.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No, the difference between you and me is that I don't comment on something that fox news does wrong. I realize mistake are made - especially with the 24 hr min. by min news cycle so I'm not petty enough to comment on everything I see wrong with fox and then start ranting about the right this, the right that. etc etc etc. blah blah blah cry cry cry.

Originally Posted by PaulS

"Didn't Fox and Brietbart just accuse AOC of hiring her boyfriend when a simple call to her office would have cleared things up?"

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

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Scott, you missed the point. It's OK when he does it, it's only a character flaw when I do it.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Scott, you missed the point. It's OK when he does it, it's only a character flaw when I do it.

I didn't start a thread about it. I only posted to show you that boths sides/everyone does it.

Sorry if you missed the point.

[Sea Dangles]

PeteF. ,even after you have seen Jim criticize the man when called for,you still refer to him as his hero. Are you stupid or trying to antagonize? Take your pick.
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[JohnR]

Smollet looked to take advantage of the growing wedge that people willingly drive further and further in this country. What ever his motive (career, hatred for Trump, SJW cred) he further divided people based on his actions. Strong penalty.

People were too willing to make SJ points on this, particularly the political left that are eating each other to be king of the hill.


This has happened time and time again, people with axes or careers to grind having to be early and memorable.

And time and time again the News Media has to be intertwined with the virtue signaling Kommentariat on Social Media.

We are in a post "Just the Facts, Mam" world.

[Jim in CT]

i hope this guy has good people around him so he doesn’t hurt himself or worse. this is a bizarre situation, hope he’s ok and maybe, just maybe, we can all learn from this. not everyone who chose not to vote for hilary, is a disgusting hate monger. there are some really, really decent people who voted for trump, justbasnthere are some really, really great people who voted for hilary. neither side has a monopoly on virtue or evil.
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[Jim in CT]

spence and paul, why do you suppose Smollet assumed he’d get away with this?
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

spence and paul, why do you suppose Smollet assumed he’d get away with this?
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Because he is a moron, obviously.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Because he is a moron, obviously.
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Exactlly. Stupid people do stupid stuff every day.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Exactlly. Stupid people do stupid stuff every day.

I agree with that, and often it's me doing the stupid stuff.

But there are a million ways you can perpetrate a hoax. Why did he pick this exact scenario, where white Trump supporters attacked him for being black and gay? Why do you think, of the limitless choices available to him, he selected to fabricate a racist and homophobic attack at the hands of white Trump supporters. Maxine Waters, a member of Congress, explicitly blamed Trump.

I saw an hysterical actress on a late night show essentially blame Pence, she was quivering and shaking, saying that if Pence dedicates his life to hating people, he can't be surprised when these things happen. This is the same Pence who repealed an Indiana state law, which said that Christian business owners don't have to participate in gay weddings, he acted exactly the way Smollett would have wanted him to. But that doesn't matter. Pence is white with grey hair, so being a victim at his hand, is a badge of honor that comes with significant rewards. THAT is what Smollett was seeking.

There were two actual hate crimes recently, a conservative at Berkley (the place of tolerance) who got assaulted for his beliefs, and that maniac in the Coast Guard who wanted to kill democrats. Scary times.

[Jim in CT]

although i guess a potus can’t pardon a state crime, learn something new every day.
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[Sea Dangles]

This man has unified the country as well as this board. Anyone with any common sense admits he is stupid.
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