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Old 02-05-2011, 04:50 PM   #1
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Basic Rudiments ... like it's easy ???


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Old 02-05-2011, 04:55 PM   #2
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Sounds like he was breaking down a Neal Peart solo. Basic rudiments just means the solo is made from standard forms.
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:21 PM   #3
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yea RLRR LRLL RLRR LRLL is one ,, do it with yea hands while doing the opposite with your feet .. just saying .. He plays the heck out his kit and says basic rudiments almost yawning like .. so many great drummers that spawned from drum and bugle core .. When someone says "basic rudiments" I suspect they did .. I have the book ,, "basic rudiments" .. just hard arse exercises your brain don't like to do ..

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Old 02-05-2011, 05:29 PM   #4
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I think he's geeing out on it a bit, almost showing off. Fun to watch though. Is it someone noteworthy?
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:26 PM   #5
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just you tubing ... he seems to be in alot of drum clinics ..

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here you go eddy 9 minutes of joy. Gadd does it for me


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here you go you got your own channel


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yea RLRR LRLL RLRR LRLL is one ,, do it with yea hands while doing the opposite with your feet .. just saying .. He plays the heck out his kit and says basic rudiments almost yawning like .. so many great drummers that spawned from drum and bugle core .. When someone says "basic rudiments" I suspect they did .. I have the book ,, "basic rudiments" .. just hard arse exercises your brain don't like to do ..


"so many great drummers that spawned from drum and bugle core"
It all starts with rudiments when you 1st start to learn to play.
Thats how I started when I was 6, till I was 21.
Didn't really get into the set till I was in my late teens.
Gadd is the classic example of a rudimental style drummer.
His drumming in Steely Dans Aja is all rudiments

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*noted ,,, all 3 traditional grip ... when training meets natural talent ..

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*noted ,,, all 3 traditional grip ... when training meets natural talent ..
Traditional grip is the only way to play in my opinion !

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Vinny Colaiuta ... it always leads back to Zappa ... found this ..

His next break came in April 1978 at the age of 22, when he auditioned for Frank Zappa, an audition that involved performing the notoriously difficult piece entitled "The Black Page". The audition was successful and Colaiuta went on to work with Zappa as his principal drummer for studio and live performances. Colaiuta played on the successful Zappa albums Tinsel Town Rebellion, Joe's Garage, and Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar. Joe's Garage was named one of the top-25 drumming performances of all time in a 1993 Modern Drummer Magazine article.

About Colaiuta's ability to play Zappa's notoriously complex music and the complex style of polyrhythms, guitarist Steve Vai told the following story:

He's one of the most amazing sight-readers that ever existed on the instrument. One day we were in a Frank rehearsal, this was early '80s, and Frank brought in this piece of music called "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation." Just unbelievably complex. All the drums were written out, just like "The Black Page" except even more complex. There were these runs of like 17 over 3 and every drumhead is notated differently. And there were a whole bunch of people there, I think Bozzio was there. Vinnie had this piece of music on the stand to his right. To his left he had another music stand with a plate of sushi on it, okay? Now the tempo of the piece was very slow, like "The Black Page." And then the first riff came in, [mimics bizarre Zappa-esque drum rhythm patterns] with all these choking of cymbals, and hi-hat, ruffs, spinning of rototoms and all this crazy stuff. And I saw Vinnie reading this thing. Now, Vinnie has this habit of pushing his glasses up with the middle finger of his right hand. Well I saw him look at this one bar of music, it was the last bar of music on the page. He started to play it as he was turning the page with one hand, and then once the page was turned he continued playing the riff with his right hand, as he reached over with his left hand, grabbed a piece of sushi and put it in his mouth, continued the riff with his left hand and feet, pushed his glasses up, and then played the remaining part of the bar. It was the sickest thing I have ever seen. Frank threw his music up in the air. Bozzio turned around and walked away. I just started laughing.[

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Vinny Colaiuta ... it always leads back to Zappa ... found this ..

His next break came in April 1978 at the age of 22, when he auditioned for Frank Zappa, an audition that involved performing the notoriously difficult piece entitled "The Black Page". The audition was successful and Colaiuta went on to work with Zappa as his principal drummer for studio and live performances. Colaiuta played on the successful Zappa albums Tinsel Town Rebellion, Joe's Garage, and Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar. Joe's Garage was named one of the top-25 drumming performances of all time in a 1993 Modern Drummer Magazine article.

About Colaiuta's ability to play Zappa's notoriously complex music and the complex style of polyrhythms, guitarist Steve Vai told the following story:

He's one of the most amazing sight-readers that ever existed on the instrument. One day we were in a Frank rehearsal, this was early '80s, and Frank brought in this piece of music called "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation." Just unbelievably complex. All the drums were written out, just like "The Black Page" except even more complex. There were these runs of like 17 over 3 and every drumhead is notated differently. And there were a whole bunch of people there, I think Bozzio was there. Vinnie had this piece of music on the stand to his right. To his left he had another music stand with a plate of sushi on it, okay? Now the tempo of the piece was very slow, like "The Black Page." And then the first riff came in, [mimics bizarre Zappa-esque drum rhythm patterns] with all these choking of cymbals, and hi-hat, ruffs, spinning of rototoms and all this crazy stuff. And I saw Vinnie reading this thing. Now, Vinnie has this habit of pushing his glasses up with the middle finger of his right hand. Well I saw him look at this one bar of music, it was the last bar of music on the page. He started to play it as he was turning the page with one hand, and then once the page was turned he continued playing the riff with his right hand, as he reached over with his left hand, grabbed a piece of sushi and put it in his mouth, continued the riff with his left hand and feet, pushed his glasses up, and then played the remaining part of the bar. It was the sickest thing I have ever seen. Frank threw his music up in the air. Bozzio turned around and walked away. I just started laughing.[
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