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Old 08-30-2005, 11:24 PM   #1
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Gas Prices

How much is gas in your neighborhood now?
My local staion went from $2.58-$2.86 overnight.
That's gonna hurt.
It's gonna put a dent in my fishing for sure...
How bout you guys?

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Old 08-30-2005, 11:26 PM   #2
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2.67 for regular. now i have to pay almost 26 bucks for a full tank.
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Old 08-30-2005, 11:29 PM   #3
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Cost me about $75 to fill my Ram, don't last long either.
I'll be selling that soon. Have to get a Yugo and turn it into a pickup..

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Old 08-30-2005, 11:31 PM   #4
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Cost me about $75 to fill my Ram, don't last long either.
I'll be selling that soon. Have to get a Yugo and turn it into a pickup..
damn, it looks like i wont be buying a truck someday. i have to be a billg ate to own a truck and enjoy my fishing luxury
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:48 AM   #5
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theres a gas station in town 252 plus, everywhere else has gone from 260's to over 280 for regular since katrina, glad i get 350 miles per tank
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:17 AM   #6
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3.14@ cumbies 4 high test , my old beast of a truck needs high octane. Lets tap into our surplus supply . I also think the storm down south and the stock market plus the upcoming weekend contributed to the extream rise in price.
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:01 AM   #7
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Last nite I grabbed gas for 2.67. Who knows what it will be this morning. Good thing I'm not a housewife with an unneccessary Navigator.

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Old 08-31-2005, 05:02 AM   #8
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was 3.25 here at the street last time I looked. Yukon XL will take $84 on a fill up. Lasts me about a month though. Now that the beach is open I suspect it will be much less now. Then you have gas for the boat, she takes about 135 gals every two weeks if I skimp on my trips. (several charter guys I know are burning about 40-60 gal/day) Most boats get about 2 mi per gal, some get less then one. I need a small nuclear reactor, initial cost is high but you can run those babies wide open for 30 years before your next fill up.

IMO, All we need to do is start pumping from from out own supply anc threaten to reduce the amount we will buy from overseas...once we do that the overseas price will fall deeply, they need our $ for oil, that is all they have. We could control the overseas price via pumping from our supply. Don't think so? What to you think would happen if we suddenly said to the Arabs, we will only need to purchase 1/2 of what we did last year...unless of course we get a favorable price then we might purchase more.
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:24 AM   #9
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IMO, All we need to do is start pumping from from out own supply anc threaten to reduce the amount we will buy from overseas...once we do that the overseas price will fall deeply, they need our $ for oil, that is all they have. We could control the overseas price via pumping from our supply. Don't think so? What to you think would happen if we suddenly said to the Arabs, we will only need to purchase 1/2 of what we did last year...unless of course we get a favorable price then we might purchase more.
I couldn't agree more.
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Old 08-31-2005, 06:01 AM   #10
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Old 08-31-2005, 06:08 AM   #11
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Bush responded the other day that we can't snap our fingers and the prices will come down. It's time to tap into the domestic supply. I am sick of this country being at the mercy of A-rab controlled OPEC. Can't wait to see what home heating oil prices will be this winter!

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Old 08-31-2005, 06:33 AM   #12
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there will be an announcement from the Bush Administration about the
utilization of our oil reserves. they we're origionally created for emergency situations like what hurricane katrina has delivered to the oil industry.
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:15 AM   #13
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The cumbys by my house in RI went from $2.67 to $2.90 overnight. What the hell is that? I usually fill up in MA as that is where I work. I paid $2.52 yesterday morn. I will check and see what it is today. I have a 100 mile round trip so this is going to kill me.
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:25 AM   #14
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can't believe that the powers that be are letting the nation get so openly fluked. how long can we just accept the unacceptable- wish it was an election year, things would be a little different.

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:28 AM   #15
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It's funny how 'they cant snap their fingers and the price comes down' BUT one blink and they can go up in a hurry;..
$50 for my exploder gets me almost a week, if I'm fishing local, 50 gets me 3-4 days if I'm running west to fish....

Stop and Shop in Newport was 260/gal, not sure now, the proce in gansett went up 13cents yesterday; I filled in the AM at 2.67, not now

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:29 AM   #16
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IMO, All we need to do is start pumping from from out own supply anc threaten to reduce the amount we will buy from overseas...once we do that the overseas price will fall deeply, they need our $ for oil, that is all they have. We could control the overseas price via pumping from our supply. Don't think so? What to you think would happen if we suddenly said to the Arabs, we will only need to purchase 1/2 of what we did last year...unless of course we get a favorable price then we might purchase more.

Of course I can't find any numbers right now, but we couldn't sustain ourselves no matter how hard we tried if we only used our oil. We simply don't have the oil even if we had some serious success in offshore drilling. Also, Alaska is a waste of time, in relative terms. Just a drop in the bucket. Canada sits on a lot of oil, but most of it is very expensive to extract from the sand it is mixed with.

New technology is the future, if we ever want to escape our dependance on foreign oil. Maybe we could use our own oil but currently we consume way, way too much to think about it.
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:37 AM   #17
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Amen to that Pete...

What amazes me about this entire conversation is the real answer, the only way to really make any difference in the short term is to STOP CONSUMING SO MUCH FREAKIN OIL!

The estimated reserve in ANWAR could be easily compensated for by a slight inclrease in MPG standards. A thoughtful and pragmatic program to reduce unecessary oil consumption in the US alone could have a major impact on Global supply. Hopefully this would give us the time to seriously investigate alternative sources and keep the lights on for a few hundred more years.

Could this mean some sacrifice? Sure, but think about it in terms of national security and economic stability and it would probably be worth it...unless of course you're Exxon Mobile and like your 25 Billion dollar yearly profit

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:46 AM   #18
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Of course I can't find any numbers right now, but we couldn't sustain ourselves no matter how hard we tried if we only used our oil. We simply don't have the oil even if we had some serious success in offshore drilling. Also, Alaska is a waste of time, in relative terms. Just a drop in the bucket. Canada sits on a lot of oil, but most of it is very expensive to extract from the sand it is mixed with.

New technology is the future, if we ever want to escape our dependance on foreign oil. Maybe we could use our own oil but currently we consume way, way too much to think about it.
I agree with you about our using more than we can produce but if we built some new refineries in other areas then we could keep the Alaskan oil here rather than ship it to Japan for refining. Plus why put all our eggs(refineries) in one basket(Gulf coast) when everytime you turn around they have to shut down for another hurricane and its damage!
Another item everyone who's posted seems to forget- most of the gas engines can be made, at the factory, to use fuel more efficiently if the auto makers wanted to. I was looking tobuy a new truck in the near future but I am not too crazy about the gas mileage the new ones are getting. so looks like I'll have to hang on to the one I have for awhile longer. Ron
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can't believe that the powers that be are letting the nation get so openly fluked. .
The powers that be have huge share holdings in oil Companies....... even condy Rice has a super tanker named after her.... while we are getting fluked, the ones who have share holdings in oil Co's are laughing all the way to the bank..
If you ask me we are on the brink of a serious problem.... Bush wont do a thing to stop this.. if anything he did what ever he could to cause this.
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The powers that be have huge share holdings in oil Companies....... even condy Rice has a super tanker named after her.... while we are getting fluked, the ones who have share holdings in oil Co's are laughing all the way to the bank..
Agreed............

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[QUOTE=Nebe]The powers that be have huge share holdings in oil Companies....... even condy Rice has a super tanker named after her.... while we are getting fluked, the ones who have share holdings in oil Co's are laughing all the way to the bank..

gotta agree with nebe. i know that w's family and some other politicos' are big time into oil. i just can't stand how blatant this is. we are being told to go 'eff ourselves when they're not doing it to us.

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this is why i cant stand our current administration.. i saw through them about 3 years ago. Its obvious what their real agenda is.. profits for the ultra rich and screw the common folk.
i'll stop now...
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Its obvious what their real agenda is.. profits for the ultra rich and screw the common folk.
That's the Republican way..............

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Old 08-31-2005, 08:29 AM   #24
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I didn't vote for the war mongering oil company bitch. People better wake up the whole country is being raped. 37 million americans living below the poverty line. How can this be happening?
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Afterhours... are you seeing the light

Spence, i think one from the other team wants to switch jerseys... do we have a 2xL????????
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homerun4 is right

We need nitrogen engines now, as you know the nitrogen comes from water,and has no pollution problems.
Did you hear on fox news the other night that it costs the oil co. $4.00 total to produce a barrel of refined oil. Oil was selling last night for $70.70 per barrel unrefined.Do the math the balance is profit.
It least Jimmy Carter put in an excess profit tax.
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Old 08-31-2005, 08:40 AM   #27
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its now at a point where for me anyway , I will start really picking my nights. I cant afford to drive all over the place looking and trying things. To make it worse I went ahead and baught a GMC Pickup in april with a big v8..I must be nuts

Costs me almost 70 bucks to fill up !
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HAHAHA!!!! that is case #1 where Bush has duped the american. Hydrogen engines as you call them are fuel cells. Bush has passed a law that all funding for such technology must use OIL to power the equipment that removes the hydrogen from the water.. Ne never mentioned that publicly, he just spouted out that he was supportive for a cleaner fuel and hydrogen was the answer.

sad huh... were screwed.
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HAHAHA!!!! that is case #1 where Bush has duped the american. Hydrogen engines as you call them are fuel cells. Bush has passed a law that all funding for such technology must use OIL to power the equipment that removes the hydrogen from the water.. Ne never mentioned that publicly, he just spouted out that he was supportive for a cleaner fuel and hydrogen was the answer.

sad huh... were screwed.

Completely agree with what you said. Also, it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than it does to produce the equivalent amount of gasoline. It is a complete sham.
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Actually, I believe the funding stated the source of Hydrodgen must be natural gas, not oil...

There may still be advantages to doing this...if the fossil fuel is broken down in a factory it would be easier to control greenhouse gas emissions...

Even options like ethanol have serious issues. Politicians in the midwest love it because it's good for the local economy...but it requires tremendous amounts of energy to produce.

In the end I've seen little that indicates which alternative sources really provide a significant "net" gain when all the complexities are accounted for.

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