If the gop win the midterms

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did the three billionaires steal anything from anyone Pete?

Even Biden said recently that success isn’t finite, that one persons success isn’t the cause of anyone else’s struggle.

which party is running the federal government at the moment? if that wealth gap is at its worst now, whose fault is it?

The wealth gap isn’t fair, but elon musk isn’t the reason why poor people exist.

I didn’t say he was, you falsely claimed I did
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I didn’t say he was, you falsely claimed I did

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poor victim

[The Dad Fisherman]

Why hasn’t Biden fixed this?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Why hasn’t Biden fixed this?
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Democrats: We'll send nearly $80 billion to the IRS over the next 10 years and improve enforcement against rich tax cheats.

Republicans: We'll cut the IRS budget by 20% and try to prevent the agency from cracking down on tax evasion.

See the difference?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Democrats: We'll send nearly $80 billion to the IRS over the next 10 years and improve enforcement against rich tax cheats.

Republicans: We'll cut the IRS budget by 20% and try to prevent the agency from cracking down on tax evasion.

See the difference?
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Are those direct “quotes” again?
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[wdmso]

Under Republicans, not another penny will go to Ukraine,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) declared at a stump speech last Thursday in Iowa.

Can’t wait to see the committees she ends up on. So Kevin can be speaker.
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[Pete F.]

Meanwhile the Republican chair of State Assembly's elections committee in Wisconsin tries to get all military ballots thrown out.
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[wdmso]

Kremlin-connected entrepreneur Yevgeny Prigozhin admitted Monday that he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue to do so — confirming for the first time the accusations that he has rejected for years.

"Gentlemen, we have interfered, are interfering and will interfere. Carefully, precisely, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do," Prigozhin boasted in remarks posted on social media.

So how should we take this literally or hyperbole

Maybe Scott can tell us
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Kremlin-connected entrepreneur Yevgeny Prigozhin admitted Monday that he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue to do so — confirming for the first time the accusations that he has rejected for years.

"Gentlemen, we have interfered, are interfering and will interfere. Carefully, precisely, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do," Prigozhin boasted in remarks posted on social media.

So how should we take this literally or hyperbole

Maybe Scott can tell us
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what did they do?

[Pete F.]

Here ya go and of course they haven’t done it yet, but just like the things the theocratic court would never do…..

1. Top House Republican Kevin McCarthy Hints at Cuts

During a recent interview with Punchbowl News, top House Republican Kevin McCarthy made clear he wanted to cut spending. He did not specifically mention Social Security or Medicare, but they are among the biggest parts of the federal budget and have long been a target of Republicans. McCarthy explained that spending cuts were necessary to reduce the national debt, but his party also wants to extend the Trump tax cuts, which are already on pace to add nearly $2 trillion to the deficit.

2. Influential House Republicans Threaten to Use the Debt Ceiling to Make Cuts to the Programs

The week before McCarthy’s interview, the four Republicans fighting to serve as House Budget Committee Chairman in the next Congress told Bloomberg Government that they would use the debt ceiling deadline to force cuts to programs Democrats support, such as Social Security and Medicare.

“Our main focus has got to be on nondiscretionary—it’s got to be on entitlements,” such as Social Security and Medicare, Rep. Buddy Carter (R-Ga.) said.

The Republicans told Blomberg they wanted to increase the eligibility age for both programs and/or reduce benefits for some wealthier Americans. Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma explicitly stated that the debt ceiling deadline is “obviously a leverage point” for achieving their goals.

Raising the eligibility age is “the worst way to cut benefits,” according to Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College.

“It hurts most the people who can’t work any longer. These are people with less education and physically harder jobs. They get stuck with lower benefits for the rest of their lives,” she told Politifact.

3. Sen. Ron Johnson Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Single Year

Over the summer, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson straight up came out and said Social Security and Medicare should not be guaranteed—as they currently are—and should instead be negotiated by Congress every single year. Johnson, who is running for a third term in November, made his comments during an interview on the Regular Joe Show, hosted by Joe Giganti.

Speaking on the program, Johnson argued that mandatory programs like Social Security and Medicare should be reformed and fall under “discretionary spending”—which means Congress could cut funding for them or eliminate them altogether.

4. Sen. Rick Scott Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Five Years

In February, Florida Sen. Rick Scott released his “Plan to Rescue America,” a grab-bag of extreme policies, including a proposal to “sunset” all federal legislation in five years, requiring Congress to re-authorize every federal law, including those governing Medicare and Social Security. This would ease the path for Republicans to ultimately kill them.

5. 157 House Republicans Backed Cuts to the Programs

The Republican Study Committee (RSC)—a group of 157 House Republicans—this year released its “Blueprint to Save America,” where they propose raising the eligibility ages for Medicare and Social Security and withholding payments to those who retired early and earned over a certain amount, effectively making cuts to the program.

The RSC isn’t some fringe group; it includes 74% of House Republicans, including North Carolina Senate nominee Ted Budd, who’s previously voted for cuts to Medicare and Social Security, voted to raise the retirement age, and recently hinted he might vote for cuts to the programs in the future.

6. Sen. Lindsey Graham Called Reforming Social Security and Medicare a “Must”

Finally, we come to South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who in June said “entitlement reform is a must” and suggested he’s open to changing the income cap and eligibility age for programs like Social Security and Medicare.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here ya go and of course they haven’t done it yet, but just like the things the theocratic court would never do…..

1. Top House Republican Kevin McCarthy Hints at Cuts

During a recent interview with Punchbowl News, top House Republican Kevin McCarthy made clear he wanted to cut spending. He did not specifically mention Social Security or Medicare, but they are among the biggest parts of the federal budget and have long been a target of Republicans. McCarthy explained that spending cuts were necessary to reduce the national debt, but his party also wants to extend the Trump tax cuts, which are already on pace to add nearly $2 trillion to the deficit.

2. Influential House Republicans Threaten to Use the Debt Ceiling to Make Cuts to the Programs

The week before McCarthy’s interview, the four Republicans fighting to serve as House Budget Committee Chairman in the next Congress told Bloomberg Government that they would use the debt ceiling deadline to force cuts to programs Democrats support, such as Social Security and Medicare.

“Our main focus has got to be on nondiscretionary—it’s got to be on entitlements,” such as Social Security and Medicare, Rep. Buddy Carter (R-Ga.) said.

The Republicans told Blomberg they wanted to increase the eligibility age for both programs and/or reduce benefits for some wealthier Americans. Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma explicitly stated that the debt ceiling deadline is “obviously a leverage point” for achieving their goals.

Raising the eligibility age is “the worst way to cut benefits,” according to Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College.

“It hurts most the people who can’t work any longer. These are people with less education and physically harder jobs. They get stuck with lower benefits for the rest of their lives,” she told Politifact.

3. Sen. Ron Johnson Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Single Year

Over the summer, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson straight up came out and said Social Security and Medicare should not be guaranteed—as they currently are—and should instead be negotiated by Congress every single year. Johnson, who is running for a third term in November, made his comments during an interview on the Regular Joe Show, hosted by Joe Giganti.

Speaking on the program, Johnson argued that mandatory programs like Social Security and Medicare should be reformed and fall under “discretionary spending”—which means Congress could cut funding for them or eliminate them altogether.

4. Sen. Rick Scott Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Five Years

In February, Florida Sen. Rick Scott released his “Plan to Rescue America,” a grab-bag of extreme policies, including a proposal to “sunset” all federal legislation in five years, requiring Congress to re-authorize every federal law, including those governing Medicare and Social Security. This would ease the path for Republicans to ultimately kill them.

5. 157 House Republicans Backed Cuts to the Programs

The Republican Study Committee (RSC)—a group of 157 House Republicans—this year released its “Blueprint to Save America,” where they propose raising the eligibility ages for Medicare and Social Security and withholding payments to those who retired early and earned over a certain amount, effectively making cuts to the program.

The RSC isn’t some fringe group; it includes 74% of House Republicans, including North Carolina Senate nominee Ted Budd, who’s previously voted for cuts to Medicare and Social Security, voted to raise the retirement age, and recently hinted he might vote for cuts to the programs in the future.

6. Sen. Lindsey Graham Called Reforming Social Security and Medicare a “Must”

Finally, we come to South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who in June said “entitlement reform is a must” and suggested he’s open to changing the income cap and eligibility age for programs like Social Security and Medicare.
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Jim doesn’t understand fox doesn’t play those clips ..
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim doesn’t understand fox doesn’t play those clips ..
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jim understands that pete’s “examples” state that McCarthy never specified social security or medicare.

i asked for examples of republicans who are on record for saying they’ll do what you accuse them
of. seems like you ought o be able to provide some examples if you didn’t make it up.

SS needs to be modified, it’s bleeding money. raising age requirements and telling zillionaires they won’t get benefits, might save SS.

Wayne, are you aware that SS will be bankrupt in our lifetimes? what would you do about it?

meinst see one example, ZERO, of proposed gutting of SS.

i’m not eligible until I’m 67.5, that’s older than my parents. minimum ages have been increased before.

Wayne i know you’re in a union, and you therefore have been told that pensions can be funded with hugs and folk songs, but it ain’t so.

When will
florida children start getting slaughtered? that’s what the gop wants to do right? kill kids and eliminate SS and medicare.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

jim understands that pete’s “examples” state that McCarthy never specified social security or medicare.

i asked for examples of republicans who are on record for saying they’ll do what you accuse them
of. seems like you ought o be able to provide some examples if you didn’t make it up.

SS needs to be modified, it’s bleeding money. raising age requirements and telling zillionaires they won’t get benefits, might save SS.

Wayne, are you aware that SS will be bankrupt in our lifetimes? what would you do about it?

meinst see one example, ZERO, of proposed gutting of SS.

i’m not eligible until I’m 67.5, that’s older than my parents. minimum ages have been increased before.

Wayne i know you’re in a union, and you therefore have been told that pensions can be funded with hugs and folk songs, but it ain’t so.

When will
florida children start getting slaughtered? that’s what the gop wants to do right? kill kids and eliminate SS and medicare.

McCarthy never specified social security or medicare. or any policy if you want to be 100% correct

And keep your head in the sand GOP policies don't kill children ..

Ask the parents of the children from uvalde .. how they like Abbotts wild wild west Gun policies

[wdmso]

DeSantis official says Justice Dept. can’t send monitors to 3 Florida counties

So much for election integrity

Just another stunt for 2024
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

DeSantis official says Justice Dept. can’t send monitors to 3 Florida counties

So much for election integrity

Just another stunt for 2024
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What are you worried about? Election fraud is a hoax, remember
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What are you worried about? Election fraud is a hoax, remember
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whos worried? just more of the same Hypocritical nonsense from the right..

Next hey will be saying their going to fix inflation and lower gas Prices
by investigating Hunter .. and you'll Heal like a good dog

[Pete F.]

Jim you’ll be all set, with Republicans denying women the right to make their own reproductive decisions, there will be a dramatic increase of children born into untenable financial circumstances. This undoubtedly will increase the number of women who will need to move back in with their parents. And, with Republicans promising to kill social security, this will put many seniors in difficult financial circumstances, resulting in seniors needing to move in with their adult children. So this cruel combination of Republican priorities pretty much guarantees painful and harmful circumstances for wide swaths of the population.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim you’ll be all set, with Republicans denying women the right to make their own reproductive decisions, there will be a dramatic increase of children born into untenable financial circumstances. This undoubtedly will increase the number of women who will need to move back in with their parents. And, with Republicans promising to kill social security, this will put many seniors in difficult financial circumstances, resulting in seniors needing to move in with their adult children. So this cruel combination of Republican priorities pretty much guarantees painful and harmful circumstances for wide swaths of the population.
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pete, what’s your opinion of the poll you shared recently, that showed Crist winning?

would you rather be born into untenable financial circumstances, or be slaughtered? me and my brothers were born into rough financial circumstances. But it was a lot better than being slaughtered.

If women don’t want to raise the baby, there’s this thing called “adoption” that liberals never, ever mention. No one has to raise a baby. Nobody. There’s a huge waiting list of desperate people who
want a baby.

Look it up. It’s true!

How was Crists acceptance speech? Was it good?

You’ll be ok. Probably not a red tsunami. Just a normal pendulum
swing to the right. Probably.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You’ll be ok. Probably not a red tsunami. Just a normal pendulum
swing to the right. Probably.

did democracy die?

[Pete F.]

“The only seats where the Republicans are making gains right now is when the seats were drawn to give them gains.”

Thank you @SteveKornacki for making it plain.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

“The only seats where the Republicans are making gains right now is when the seats were drawn to give them gains.”

Thank you @SteveKornacki for making it plain.
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they may well flip nevada. so there goes that lie.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

they may well flip nevada. so there goes that lie.

It’s hard to underscore enough how damaging this election is to the GOP.

There’s no avoiding how obviously big a problem Trump is and they’re stuck with him.

There’s no one to lead them out of it.
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[wdmso]

And on newsmax the hoodie winning

The response is as expected

One was I hope he strokes out in office

And If this is another greatest example of a rigged election, I don’t know what it is. And mentally incapacitated candidate, whose wife is a communist and an illegal immigrant is voted in the office. This screams of some thing and it sure isn’t proper voting either by the Pennsylvania citizens who completely lost their minds or there’s voter fraud it’s one or the other or both
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And on newsmax the hoodie winning

The response is as expected

One was I hope he strokes out in office

And If this is another greatest example of a rigged election, I don’t know what it is. And mentally incapacitated candidate, whose wife is a communist and an illegal immigrant is voted in the office. This screams of some thing and it sure isn’t proper voting either by the Pennsylvania citizens who completely lost their minds or there’s voter fraud it’s one or the other or both
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you took it out of context.

if you can play that card…

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you took it out of context.

if you can play that card…

Their complete quotes

Jim nothing to take out of context.

A for effort. you may need to play cards better , you have a weak hand
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Their complete quotes

Jim nothing to take out of context.

A for effort. you may need to play cards better , you have a weak hand
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i was kidding wayne, obviously.

i posted the video of the democrat saying kids would be killed. the while quote is there. but you can’t admit it. you just questioned the source instead of addressing what’s in the video. this really is a waste.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i was kidding wayne, obviously.

i posted the video of the democrat saying kids would be killed. the while quote is there. but you can’t admit it. you just questioned the source instead of addressing what’s in the video. this really is a waste.

My mistake sorry. But I did address all that was in the video

Not just one extreme comment
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[wdmso]

We’ll it’s looking like Kevin may have a hard time getting to be speaker

Seeing the GOP history of in fighting and with such a slim majority

It’s going to be interesting
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[Pete F.]

Maybe the GOP will realize that Trump getting indicted and going to jail may not be a bad thing.

There are strategic reasons to want this. If he can’t win, he’s a liability to the party, but his trial & conviction (??) would fire up a ton of conservatives to give Dems the boot. It seems like a winning proposition if they can walk the knife edge of looking outraged about it.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Maybe the GOP will realize that Trump getting indicted and going to jail may not be a bad thing.


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I'm looking forward to it, I assume this will happen today as it would no longer be considered election tampering?