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10-19-2013, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
So NOW you're a Congressman???
-spence
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Spence, I see what happened...I didn't mean to say that redford claimed that all registered Republicans are racist. What I meant to say, and I am correct, is this...Redford claimed that the Republicans in congress are racist. His proof? Did he see them at a Klan rally? Nope. His proof is that they disagreed with Obama. That makes them racist.
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10-19-2013, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Spence, I see what happened...I didn't mean to say that redford claimed that all registered Republicans are racist. What I meant to say, and I am correct, is this...Redford claimed that the Republicans in congress are racist. His proof? Did he see them at a Klan rally? Nope. His proof is that they disagreed with Obama. That makes them racist.
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He didn't claim register Republicans are all racist. What are you reading?
He said that SOME in Congress are motivated partly by racism. On this he's 100% correct. He also said some motivation is a reluctance to change. On this he's also 100% correct. He's it's akin to saying they oppose Obama because they're conservatives.
Oh, the horror.
-spence
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10-19-2013, 10:19 AM
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Redford is very good at telling stories.
A River Runs Through It, one of my favorites.
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" Choose Life "
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10-19-2013, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
He didn't claim register Republicans are all racist. What are you reading?
He said that SOME in Congress are motivated partly by racism. On this he's 100% correct. He also said some motivation is a reluctance to change. On this he's also 100% correct. He's it's akin to saying they oppose Obama because they're conservatives.
Oh, the horror.
-spence
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Spence, for the last time, I am not suggesting that Redford feels 'all Republicans' are racist. He specifically accused sthe ones in Congress, who helped force the shutdown, of being racist (news to white supremacists like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio).
"He said that SOME in Congress are motivated partly by racism. On this he's 100% correct"
You make that accusation with NO support, yet you continually chastise the conservatives for engaging in speculation.
So Spence denies that Robert Byrd (an admitted Klansmen who used the n-word until the year of his death) is racist. But Spence is fine calling some congressional Republicans racist, with no proof whatsoever.
In other words, you ignore irrefutable proof that an influential Democrat was a racist, but feel justified in using that label on Republicans, with no proof whatsoever.
Whew! Robert Byrd is not a racist, but Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are! Thanks for straightening that out Spence.
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10-19-2013, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
He said that SOME in Congress are motivated partly by racism. On this he's 100% correct.
Name 1 please......
He also said some motivation is a reluctance to change. On this he's also 100% correct.
Name a human being that isn't motivated by a reluctance to change, partcularly if the change is not a positive change
He's it's akin to saying they oppose Obama because they're conservatives.
no clue what that sentence means
Oh, the horror.
-spence
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it was stupid....but we're used to you defending stupid and indefensible as long as they are aligned politically with you
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10-19-2013, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
Name 1 please......
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How about anyone in Congress who's uttered a Birther remark. I'd list them but it would take a while.
-spence
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10-19-2013, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
How about anyone in Congress who's uttered a Birther remark. I'd list them but it would take a while.
-spence
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I only asked you to name 1...
...apparently that would take too much time but you have plenty of time for all of your other nonsense
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10-19-2013, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I only asked you to name 1...
...apparently that would take too much time but you have plenty of time for all of your other nonsense
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Yeah, it might take a lot of time to look up a member of congress that made a birther remark. But I'd be interested in why birther remarks are racist. Weren't they about Obama supposedly not being born here therefor not being qualified to be POTUS? Oh, that's right, it couldn't be something as simple and straightforward as that. It had to be some code--like "Obama is black." Funny, I thought everyone knew that long before he was elected, and before any birther remarks were made. Maybe it was just to reinforce the obvious fact. Americans can be stupid. Especially "conservatives" who are racists and must be reminded that Obama is black so that nobody, no racist, would accidentally vote for him.
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10-23-2013, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yeah, it might take a lot of time to look up a member of congress that made a birther remark. But I'd be interested in why birther remarks are racist. Weren't they about Obama supposedly not being born here therefor not being qualified to be POTUS? Oh, that's right, it couldn't be something as simple and straightforward as that. It had to be some code--like "Obama is black." Funny, I thought everyone knew that long before he was elected, and before any birther remarks were made. Maybe it was just to reinforce the obvious fact. Americans can be stupid. Especially "conservatives" who are racists and must be reminded that Obama is black so that nobody, no racist, would accidentally vote for him.
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The effort to undermine Obama via his race has been very consistent and well coordinated. He's a Muslim, he's a Kenyan, he wasn't born in the USA, he's not like us, he doesn't share our values etc...
If Obama was a white guy named Steve this strategy wouldn't take. It's amazing though how far this scare tactic has went...with no evidence it's almost to the point of being mainstream in some circles.
-spence
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10-19-2013, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
He didn't claim register Republicans are all racist. What are you reading?
He said that SOME in Congress are motivated partly by racism. On this he's 100% correct. He also said some motivation is a reluctance to change. On this he's also 100% correct. He's it's akin to saying they oppose Obama because they're conservatives.
Oh, the horror.
-spence
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Actually I would wager a higher percentage of democrats are motivated by racism, and I would win
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