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Movies, Classics to Less than Normal By request - Grab your Popcorn. New Movie forum (for those that have given up fishing this year). (No P 0rn) |
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01-27-2015, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Spence, racism,really? Do you people ever, ever get tired of playing that card? One of Kyle's pallbearer s was black, but hey, whatever it takes to protect the narrative, no matter how demonstrably false the claim is. Racism. That's the first I've actually heard that charge here. Two generations ago, Hollywood rallied behind the cause ow World War Two. The democrats have made a big cultural leap forward. I cannot stand these people.
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Your misery knows no end.
Do you have to talk politics in 98% of your threads?
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01-27-2015, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Your misery knows no end.
Do you have to talk politics in 98% of your threads?
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Paul, not miserable, just upset that one side of the political spectrum, your side, can't just admit the guy is a hero and leave it at that. And I don't like people lobbing charges of racism at a dead hero who can't defend himself. I presume that doesn't bother you, which is your right. When your side stops injecting politics in such an asinine fashion, I will gleefully stop commenting.
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01-27-2015, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Paul, not miserable, just upset that one side of the political spectrum, your side, can't just admit the guy is a hero and leave it at that. And I don't like people lobbing charges of racism at a dead hero who can't defend himself. I presume that doesn't bother you, which is your right. When your side stops injecting politics in such an asinine fashion, I will gleefully stop commenting.
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I was merely stating why some people have a negative reaction to the movie, I didn't state that I agreed with them. You're just programmed to assume the worst.
I really couldn't care less what he thought of Iraqis as long as it didn't influence his behavior negatively which I don't believe it did. His service to the country was impressive and his death tragic.
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01-27-2015, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I was merely stating why some people have a negative reaction to the movie, I didn't state that I agreed with them. You're just programmed to assume the worst.
I really couldn't care less what he thought of Iraqis as long as it didn't influence his behavior negatively which I don't believe it did. His service to the country was impressive and his death tragic.
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I read the book and saw the movie, and for anyone to play the racism card is staggering, proof that these people have such a deep hatred for the values that this country is based on, they cannot help but besmirch a guy like this. That's deep, crazy, deranged hate.
How would anyone know how he felt about Iraqis in general? He said in the book, several times, that he was deeply hurt when innocent citizens were hurt by the enemy, which he calls savages. Back in 1945, I don't think liberals cried racism when soldiers referred to the enemy as krauts or japs. Very interesting what happened to the left since then. Any thoughts?
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01-27-2015, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
That's deep, crazy, deranged hate.
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I think it's more opportunism than hate. What's wrong is that they're trying to define his character by a few quotes of suspect context and not looking at the whole.
I think a more interesting topic is what Kyle would have thought of this movie. He spoke in the past of how feel good war movies didn't represent the realities of war. Did Eastwood really just nail the perfect compromise? Haven't seen it so I can't say.
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01-27-2015, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I think it's more opportunism than hate. What's wrong is that they're trying to define his character by a few quotes of suspect context and not looking at the whole.
I think a more interesting topic is what Kyle would have thought of this movie. He spoke in the past of how feel good war movies didn't represent the realities of war. Did Eastwood really just nail the perfect compromise? Haven't seen it so I can't say.
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Very fair points. Kyle knew they were making the movie, they completed the first draft of the script before he died.
I'll disagree on the hate. The reason they demonize a hero with opportunistic lies, is that they hate what he stands for. Deep, deep hatred, imho
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