Republicans think Trumps a doctor

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So an oncologist is treating a 100 patients with Covid 19 with hydroxychloroquine

Not sure I would go to my oncologists and I have one , if I thought I had Covid 19
Just saying ,, and Laura Ingraham would never have anyone on here show who wouldn't support her vision

You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right?

Why wouldn't an oncologist be involved in the treatment regiment of their patients when Covid-19 is involved?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

So you about you let the ongoing studies conclude before pushing a politically motivated campaign to indulge Trump’s longing for a miracle cure.

If it helps great but the last thing we need is more politics polluting science, that’s bad enough already.
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I'm not the one bringing politics into this, the TDS idiots are. I don't even know what Trump has said about the drug, I'm listening to the doctors. Despite the title of this post, I know Trump isn't a doctor, so I don't care what he has to say on the subject, I truly don't. You are ignoring the doctors, and doing so for purely political reasons.

As always with you guys, when empirical results don't align with your politics, you ignore the results and cling to your politics. YOU are making this political. For my money, it has NOTHING to do with Trump. It's you who can't separate trump from medicine. I never injected politics into this to begin with.

Try making that wrong.

The CDC and FDA are not prohibiting doctors from using the drug to treat covid-19. Why is that? .

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right?

Why wouldn't an oncologist be involved in the treatment regiment of their patients when Covid-19 is involved?
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"You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right? "

See, you just ruined his theory that only a doctor from a discipline completely unrelated to this, could agree with Trump. He's clinging to the hope that no doctor qualified to render an opinion on this, could possibly agree with Trump.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

6000 out of how many doctors in the world?.. and you suggest I cannot consider anything that doesn't fit.

Jim there are more 6000 people who think the earth's flats but if they say hydroxychloroquine works you'll support their idea the earth's flat

Just like climate find anyone and present them alternatives to everyone else. And called a fact

Did you get kicked in the head at work?

You asked who the doctors are, that are saying they've had any success with it. So I provided a few links.

So you can conclude that every doctor in every link I posted, is incompetent.

"are more 6000 people who think the earth's flat"

How many of those, graduated from medical school?

You are desperately grasping at straws, and making an idiot out of yourself in the process.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Wayne, a local ABC News station, isn't trustworthy?

https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-dru...quine/6079864/

Again you missing the point. He uses it with zinc another doctor uses it something elses. Aka the need for a study


Anecdotal evidence. Ask him if he is 100% sure if this is the cause of their recovery...

Jim you ingnore the thousands who are getting released from the hospital who have been on vents or hospitalized and released

Over your. Crusade. To prove hydroxychloroquine works and Trump was right

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Did you get kicked in the head at work?

You asked who the doctors are, that are saying they've had any success with it. So I provided a few links.

So you can conclude that every doctor in every link I posted, is incompetent.

"are more 6000 people who think the earth's flat"

How many of those, graduated from medical school?

You are desperately grasping at straws, and making an idiot out of yourself in the process.

anecdotal evidence not sure why you dont understand the concept

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right?

Why wouldn't an oncologist be involved in the treatment regiment of their patients when Covid-19 is involved?
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Maybe his patients were all ready on hydroxychloroquine

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/...oxychloroquine

Clinical Trials Using Hydroxychloroquine
Find a Clinical Trial
Clinical trials are research studies that involve people. The clinical trials on this list are

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again you missing the point. He uses it with zinc another doctor uses it something elses. Aka the need for a study


Anecdotal evidence. Ask him if he is 100% sure if this is the cause of their recovery...

Jim you ingnore the thousands who are getting released from the hospital who have been on vents or hospitalized and released

Over your. Crusade. To prove hydroxychloroquine works and Trump was right

No, I'm not missing the point You are saying there's no evidence that it works. That's demonstrably false. There is all kinds of evidence that it works, you just don't like the political implication that Trump might have been right bout something.

I don't give a frogs fat azz if Trump was right or wrong. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the drug is having some success.

Why does this have anything to do with Trump? Why does he factor into this at all? Answer - you are obsessed with him.

If Trump never said a word about this drug, you'd be agreeing with me here.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, I'm not missing the point You are saying there's no evidence that it works. That's demonstrably false. There is all kinds of evidence that it works, you just don't like the political implication that Trump might have been right bout something.

I don't give a frogs fat azz if Trump was right or wrong. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the drug is having some success.

Why does this have anything to do with Trump? Why does he factor into this at all? Answer - you are obsessed with him.

What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number ,

If Trump never said a word about this drug, you'd be agreeing with me here.

What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number ,

You still dont understand when The POTUS speaks people listen .. even if what's spoken is a lie or wishful thinking or Anecdotal this the issue with Trump ,, we still dont know who's whispering in his ear about hydroxychloroquine is it you?

Small Chloroquine Study Halted Over Risk of Fatal Heart Complications

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/h...rus-trump.html

Please note an actual factual study. Conducted out of the country , so they cant be against Trump

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You still dont understand when The POTUS speaks people listen .. even if what's spoken is a lie or wishful thinking or Anecdotal

Small Chloroquine Study Halted Over Risk of Fatal Heart Complications

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/h...rus-trump.html

Please note an actual factual study. Conducted out of the country , so they cant be against Trump

I get that words matter from a president, I do. And if your tune here was limited to his specific language, that's one thing. But you're denying that this drug works, and you're doing it for one reason only - you are deranged with hate for one person who said it. Fine, just listen to the doctors. But you can't do that, because your hatred of Trump is more compelling than your instinct to believe a large number of doctors.

Everyone knows all about that "small study", which s why the drug isn't a good idea for everyone.

Pathetic.

Politics is all that matters, which s why the same people who said we had to believe Kavanaugh's accuser, now believe in innocence until proven guilty in the case of Biden.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Maybe his patients were all ready on hydroxychloroquine

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/...oxychloroquine

Clinical Trials Using Hydroxychloroquine
Find a Clinical Trial
Clinical trials are research studies that involve people. The clinical trials on this list are

And does this make my post any less valid???
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I get that words matter from a president, I do. And if your tune here was limited to his specific language, that's one thing. But you're denying that this drug works, and you're doing it for one reason only - you are deranged with hate for one person who said it. Fine, just listen to the doctors. But you can't do that, because your hatred of Trump is more compelling than your instinct to believe a large number of doctors.

Everyone knows all about that "small study", which s why the drug isn't a good idea for everyone.

Pathetic.

Politics is all that matters, which s why the same people who said we had to believe Kavanaugh's accuser, now believe in innocence until proven guilty in the case of Biden.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...99077X20300858

Again what's your metrics for success?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number ,

You still dont understand when The POTUS speaks people listen .. even if what's spoken is a lie or wishful thinking or Anecdotal this the issue with Trump ,, we still dont know who's whispering in his ear about hydroxychloroquine is it you?

Small Chloroquine Study Halted Over Risk of Fatal Heart Complications

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/h...rus-trump.html

Please note an actual factual study. Conducted out of the country , so they cant be against Trump

"What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number , "

I don't have an exact number (thought I know a hell of a lot more about this stuff than you do), but when doctor after doctor after doctor says they are having success in certain cases, I figure that's very unlikely to be a coincidence or a pro-Trump conspiracy.

"we still dont know who's whispering in his ear about hydroxychloroquine is it you?"

I think you might be disabled. Trump is just listening to the same kinds of people that I'm listening.

Why do you doubt all those doctors who say it's working? What qualifications do you have, do conclude that they're all full of BS?

Everything you said in this entire thread, is gibberish.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

And does this make my post any less valid???
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It wouldn't be any less vaild.. however re watching Ingrams interview.

Never heard the guy saying he was treating anyone with hydroxychloroquine

Never mind the 100s quoted in the article

Sweden has even put out direction to stop hydroxychloroquine


I still haven't gotten a reasonable answer where is Trump getting his hydroxychloroquine information,, seeing the CDC and FDA. And some of the best hospitals in the country are not experimentally using hydroxychloroquine

Yet Trump and Fox keep pushing it?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

It wouldn't be any less vaild.. however re watching Ingrams interview.

Never heard the guy saying he was treating anyone with hydroxychloroquine

Never mind the 100s quoted in the article

Sweden has even put out direction to stop hydroxychloroquine


I still haven't gotten a reasonable answer where is Trump getting his hydroxychloroquine information,, seeing the CDC and FDA. And some of the best hospitals in the country are not experimentally using hydroxychloroquine

Yet Trump and Fox keep pushing it?

But many are using it.

All you care about regarding this story, is finding stupid quotes from conservatives you hate, and fanatically fixating on that. you are ignoring a lot of experts. I keep asking why you are doing that, other than politics.

The FDA has authorized its use to treat COVID-19.

https://bgr.com/2020/04/09/coronavir...covid-19-info/

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number , "

I don't have an exact number (thought I know a hell of a lot more about this stuff than you do), but when doctor after doctor after doctor says they are having success in certain cases, I figure that's very unlikely to be a coincidence or a pro-Trump conspiracy.

"we still dont know who's whispering in his ear about hydroxychloroquine is it you?"

I think you might be disabled. Trump is just listening to the same kinds of people that I'm listening.

Why do you doubt all those doctors who say it's working? What qualifications do you have, do conclude that they're all full of BS?

Everything you said in this entire thread, is gibberish.

You are so lost in your own genius and alternative universe..

You keep pounding a round peg in a square hole.. upset at people telling you it wont fit

I personaly doubt most ideas and suggestions that are not based on a solid foundation and only supported by anodotal evidence. Sorry I know that word hurts
your head

Again if your willing for or your family to take hydroxychloroquine. Seeing you know a hell of a lot more. Your free to do so...

I would take if if it was shown effective. Via testing But that hasn't happen ,

And your spreading miss information by suggesting hydroxychloroquine is only beeing used on very sick people. Refer back to the original story in the texas and the nursing home

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You are so lost in your own genius and alternative universe..

You keep pounding a round peg in a square hole.. upset at people telling you it wont fit

I personaly doubt most ideas and suggestions that are not based on a solid foundation and only supported by anodotal evidence. Sorry I know that word hurts
your head

Again if your willing for or your family to take hydroxychloroquine. Seeing you know a hell of a lot more. Your free to do so...

I would take if if it was shown effective. Via testing But that hasn't happen ,

And your spreading miss information by suggesting hydroxychloroquine is only beeing used on very sick people. Refer back to the original story in the texas and the nursing home

What did I post that you could possibly interpret as my touting my own genius? I said ten times, I'm confident listening to the actual geniuses (doctors) tons of whom are saying that in certain situations, the drug works.

I'm no genius. But unlike you, I am capable of processing facts which don't support my ideology.

"I personaly doubt most ideas and suggestions that are not based on a solid foundation and only supported by anodotal evidence. Sorry I know that word hurts"

What "word" are you saying hurts? You rattled off a sentence there, not just one word.

Whew. You can have the last word, this is an utter waste as always. Hope your dads case stays very mild.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What "word" are you saying hurts? You rattled off a sentence there, not just one word.

The one he spelled wrong
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What "word" are you saying hurts?

Maybe it's one of the words in his accusing you of "spreading miss information"? It might hurt her. Or, maybe, she might like it.

[scottw]

miss congeniality....meet miss information

[Pete F.]

Further information emerges from real doctors

CONCLUSIONS:
In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without
azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19.
An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with
hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of
ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...920v1.full.pdf

[Sea Dangles]

I wonder why they use it in other countries. 🤡
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I wonder why they use it in other countries. 🤡
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and in this country.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Further information emerges from real doctors

CONCLUSIONS:
In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without
azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19.
An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with
hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of
ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...920v1.full.pdf

"Take it, what do you have to lose"

Other than a heart attack.
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[wdmso]

Tucker Carlson who had a host claim to be someone he wasn't and proclaiming hydroquinone 100% success rate in s study and he was a stanford medical advisor . who stanford never heard of and the study omitted from the study 2 sent to ICU and one who died ... even Tucker questioned the 100% part.. maybe that where Trump got it

Hell Rush said its called covid 19 because its the 19th corona virus
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[Sea Dangles]

Rita Wilson (Mrs Tom Hanks)used it in her recovery efforts in Australia.
The left loves to portray it in a certain light because Trump had publicly expressed hope ( they hate the thought) and optimism as he tends to do.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Rita Wilson (Mrs Tom Hanks)used it in her recovery efforts in Australia.
The left loves to portray it in a certain light because Trump had publicly expressed hope ( they hate the thought) and optimism as he tends to do.
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And some people swear wd40 helps to catch fish ...

Again. anecdotal evidence, my understanding they were never in hospital,

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hy...udy-2020-04-21

Still waiting on a peer review
Seems. Trump and his base wish hydroxychloroquine would work not to save lives but so Trump can save Face ..

AS they the right continues there attack on experts

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And some people swear wd40 helps to catch fish ...

Again. anecdotal evidence, my understanding they were never in hospital,

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hy...udy-2020-04-21

Still waiting on a peer review
Seems. Trump and his base wish hydroxychloroquine would work not to save lives but so Trump can save Face ..

AS they the right continues there attack on experts

Perhaps the Australian doctors are part of Trump’s base.😂
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Perhaps the Australian doctors are part of Trump’s base.😂
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Lets hope the base doesn't read this


Can COVID-19 Be Spread Through Farts? These Australian Doctors Suggest So.

https://ourcommunitynow.com/news-wor...ors-suggest-so
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[Sea Dangles]

Can you say field day?
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