April set a national record for generating surplus

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

To be fair, his first term isn’t even halfway over yet....
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That's true, and I'm not saying he's going to be a good POTUS. But what evidence is there, that the US economy won't survive hos presidency?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's true, and I'm not saying he's going to be a good POTUS. But what evidence is there, that the US economy won't survive hos presidency?

I think the economy will survive better than his presidency.
Pay to play, drain the swamp and lock them up
Funny how the things people complain about the most are the ones they do.
Many politicians are honest and great - but some are knowingly dishonest and basic scum. They should be weeded out!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I think the economy will survive better than his presidency.
Pay to play, drain the swamp and lock them up
Funny how the things people complain about the most are the ones they do.
Many politicians are honest and great - but some are knowingly dishonest and basic scum. They should be weeded out!

"Pay to play, drain the swamp and lock them up"

If you think that sums up his presidency so far, well you are cherry-picking for political reasons. There were plenty of things Obama did that I hated, there were some things he did great (he helped the economy recover, killed the Somali pirates, helped keep alive the programs that led to Bin Ladens death).

You left out some things that Trump did...he appointed a superb (from the conservative view) Supreme Court justice, he put a little more money in most of our pockets, he made every corporation in the country (I think) more profitable by lowering the corporate tax rate), unemployment continues to drop, the stock market continues to rise, and he seems to have fatty over in North Korea taking notice, as he let the 3 hostages go. Aren't those all good things? Why can't you say that out loud?

It would be nice if we could give presidents credit where it's due, and criticism where it's due. This guy deserves a whole lot of criticism, much of his personal behavior is indefensible. But his policies are helping the economy, at least for now.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Pay to play, drain the swamp and lock them up"

If you think that sums up his presidency so far, well you are cherry-picking for political reasons. There were plenty of things Obama did that I hated, there were some things he did great (he helped the economy recover, killed the Somali pirates, helped keep alive the programs that led to Bin Ladens death).

You left out some things that Trump did...he appointed a superb (from the conservative view) Supreme Court justice, he put a little more money in most of our pockets, he made every corporation in the country (I think) more profitable by lowering the corporate tax rate), unemployment continues to drop, the stock market continues to rise, and he seems to have fatty over in North Korea taking notice, as he let the 3 hostages go. Aren't those all good things? Why can't you say that out loud?

It would be nice if we could give presidents credit where it's due, and criticism where it's due. This guy deserves a whole lot of criticism, much of his personal behavior is indefensible. But his policies are helping the economy, at least for now.

You are right Jim
Trump is the greatest at some things
He has had far more people in his administration indicted than Obama.
He is meeting with the leader of North Korea, something they have wanted for over thirty years. There are reasons NO prior president has meet with the leaders of North Korea.
Neil Gorsuch has been on the Court for a short time, time will tell.
The economy continues to improve.
Unemployment continues to drop
He signed a temporary decrease in in personal income taxes for some and a permanent decrease for corporations.
The stock market is a all time high level, be careful, remember the recovery under Obama only took 6 years. That was a third or less than previous recoveries. The market is a fickle beast and nobody controls it.
As I've sad before, it is hard to give someone credit when he has already taken more than is due. If they said the economy is doing better, period. Then the media could define it, but when it is defined by the WH as the "superlative" whatever, the responsible media says that is not correct it is actually "this". Then the WH says it is fake and whines.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You are right Jim

He signed a temporary decrease in in personal income taxes for some and a permanent decrease for corporations..

The personal decreases will likely be made permanent, there was some procedural reason why they couldn't all be made permanent. In any event, a 10-year bump in take home pay is better than no bump, right? I didn't get a tax cut from 2009-2016, and neither did anyone else I know. I did see health insurance costs skyrocket, because despite what any idiot claims, if you insure more people and you cover more things, costs will go up, not down. Maybe Obama should have taken one less course in community activism, and one more course in Finance.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The personal decreases will likely be made permanent, there was some procedural reason why they couldn't all be made permanent.

It was because the deficit projection would have made the law illegal.

In any event, a 10-year bump in take home pay is better than no bump, right? I didn't get a tax cut from 2009-2016, and neither did anyone else I know. I did see health insurance costs skyrocket, because despite what any idiot claims, if you insure more people and you cover more things, costs will go up, not down. Maybe Obama should have taken one less course in community activism, and one more course in Finance.

Jim, your withholding allowance changed, that doesn't mean your net pay will be that much better for the year.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was because the deficit projection would have made the law illegal.


Jim, your withholding allowance changed, that doesn't mean your net pay will be that much better for the year.

I had a CPA check, my tax liability will decrease, because of the expansion of the child tax credits. If I didn't live in a Marxist sh*thole where I pay way more in state/local taxes than just about any other state, my take home pay would increase even more. But the bump I'm getting, is infinitely more than what I got from the feds from 2009-2016. Somebody is doing something better, than was done during those years.