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Old 01-05-2016, 10:58 AM   #1
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It is everywhere now a days. When you read the obit section of the newspaper and someone under 40 dies unexpectedly there is a real good chance it was on OD. My bosses neighbors lost both of their sons to OD's.

I found a needle out on block in the parking lot to the north light. It is everywhere. You can see the addicts all over the place, its really sad. I was hooked on Vicodin in my early 20's, my doc refused to refill me anymore after a back injury. I was so pissed but thanked him a few months later. I am glad heroin wasn't around back then. IT surfaced in Michigan a couple years after i moved out here in a big way. A buddy of mine was found in a motel dead of an OD. There is a chance i would have tried it and lord knows what would have happened.

The drug dealers/cartels are not dummies. They know there is a huge demand for the product. They ramp up production and make it cheap and readily available. The consumer is happy to buy even knowing there is a good chance they will die.

I'm glad the Governor is taking this problem seriously. Part of the solution is treatment. I like what they are doing in Gloucester. Obviously what we are doing now isn't working. I'm all open for ideas as i am sure the Governor is.

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Old 01-05-2016, 04:51 PM   #2
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I work in the state detox in Bridgewater for the past 20 years the new drugs come in waves when I started it was mostly alcohol abuse with some heroin addicts then we had the big Crack epidemic then the huffing then the benzo's now its gone full circle most of the heroin guys are 18 -35 they are committed 30-90 days and come back 3-20 time most they dont want treatment.. Most didn't start using by accident , most of them its what they do for fun its their life style

And sadly the only reason its such a big deal its affecting Affluent white kids out on the cape.. and else where while Crack was seen as a city issue and no one cared

This is just my historical experience Sadly Time and education will be the only things to put a dent in the problem
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Old 01-05-2016, 05:03 PM   #3
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Most didn't start using by accident , most of them its what they do for fun its their life style
that right there says a LOT, these addicts have to take responsibility. It's the only "disease" I know that people choose to have.

Still - we need to also declare an all out war on these kinds of drugs in general, we simply aren't doing enough.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:02 AM   #4
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Still - we need to also declare an all out war on these kinds of drugs in general, we simply aren't doing enough.
going to war with Mexico....

the poppies producing the substance that makes heroin aren't being
grown in Mexico.... they are just "excellent smugglers"

crystal meth is being produced here and there .
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B.T.W. Ginko Biloba herb reduces the heady part of cannabis
allowing just the body high (relaxation part) to occur

Dietary Changes ... for detox are to eat (drink) wheatgrass as
a source of chlorophyll that's what detox's the body besides activated charcoal. (not abstinence)
problem is chlorophyll is quite strong tasting so you have to
add apple (for sweetness) celery (full of water) and most importantly
carrots to make the chlorophyll taste good USING a JUICER.

LACK of greens in the diet makes one a "FAULT finder"
it's basically a lack of Vitamin K
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