politics and Iran

[JohnR]

I fear we are very close to or have crossed the event horizon.

When things seem like they cannot possibly get more weird - they do.

Hey Kev - still thinking we should get a few people an a lakefront compound down NC?

The Rye Rebellion?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Nothing wrong with that.
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You said you havent seen any democrats blame Trumo for the plane crash.

TDF showed you a link where an elected democrats blamed Tum for the plane crash.

And you cannot just say, "you know what, I was wrong and you are right." Liberals can't do that, they can never, ever made to be wrong. It's something.

You have shown be to be absolutey wrong a few times on this board. It happens. No one is right every single time. WHat are you afraid would happpen, if you simply admitted you made a mistake?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You're Still Wrong

Wrong wrong wrong
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You proved him wrong, with irrefutable fact. You showed that there is literally a 0% chance that he was correct. And hell will freezize over before he admoits it, because he still be;ieves that no democrats are blaming Trump.

As a group, liberals are not capable of admitting they were wrong. They just can't do it. He's probably on another political forum right now, asserting that ne demovcrat anywhere blames Trump for the crash.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I fear we are very close to or have crossed the event horizon.

When things seem like they cannot possibly get more weird - they do.

Hey Kev - still thinking we should get a few people an a lakefront compound down NC?

The Rye Rebellion?

I’m in. I’ll bring the fixins for a still
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You proved him wrong, with irrefutable fact. You showed that there is literally a 0% chance that he was correct. And hell will freezize over before he admoits it, because he still be;ieves that no democrats are blaming Trump.

As a group, liberals are not capable of admitting they were wrong. They just can't do it. He's probably on another political forum right now, asserting that ne demovcrat anywhere blames Trump for the crash.

And of course, his only comeback is that I have no sympathy for the victims families.

Typical
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[Sea Dangles]

Spence is absolutely correct,according to Russian officials.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

And of course, his only comeback is that I have no sympathy for the victims families.

Typical
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obviously, unless you are willing to blame trump, you have no sympathy for the victims of the jet crash, you heartless ghoul.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I fear we are very close to or have crossed the event horizon.

We have jumped the shark for sure.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You proved him wrong, with irrefutable fact. You showed that there is literally a 0% chance that he was correct. And hell will freezize over before he admoits it, because he still be;ieves that no democrats are blaming Trump.

As a group, liberals are not capable of admitting they were wrong. They just can't do it. He's probably on another political forum right now, asserting that ne demovcrat anywhere blames Trump for the crash.

His link backed up my statement. Even the PM of Canada said the same thing. Everything isn’t so black and white Jim.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Even the PM of Canada said the same thing. Everything isn’t so black and white Jim.
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"Even the PM of Canada said the same thing"

You're relying on Blackface now?

"Everything isn’t so black and white Jim"

I never said "everything" is black and white. But here are two facts which are black and white.

(1) TDF proved you wrong.

(2) You couldn't man up and admit it, for the same reason you couldn't post here after the 2016 election. Your ego is too delicate.

[spence]

Yawn
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Your ego is too delicate.

he's one of the more fragile snowflakes around here

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

His link backed up my statement.
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No it didn’t.

It proved your statement was......wait for it......WRONG!
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Yawn
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chuckle.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No it didn’t.

It proved your statement was......wait for it......WRONG!
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Let’s work on reading comprehension for 2020
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I haven't seen any Dems laying the blame directly on Trump,

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jacki...b6da971d13f559

“If what is being projected is true, this is yet another example of collateral damage from the actions that have been taken in a provocative way by the president of the United States,” Speier said.
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Originally Posted by spence

Let’s work on reading comprehension for 2020
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Let's work on accepting our mistakes and becoming a better person in 20/20


Rep. Jackie Speier Lays Blame For Iran Passenger Jet Downing On Donald Trump

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Thursday suggested President Donald Trump was in part to blame for Iran’s suspected mistaken downing of a Ukraine International Airlines passenger plane during hostilities with the U.S.

Speier, who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer she’d been briefed on the crash, which killed all 176 aboard, but was “not at liberty to say” whether Iran mistakenly believed the aircraft was a U.S. military plane. The Boeing jet crashed soon after taking off from Tehran’s airport.

“If what is being projected is true, this is yet another example of collateral damage from the actions that have been taken in a provocative way by the president of the United States(That's Trump, in case you missed it),” Speier (see the big "D" next to her name, that means democrat) said.

She also lambasted Trump’s “continued saber-rattling,” called for the situation with Iran to be “de-escalated” and for Trump to return to the negotiating table.

Tensions flared last week following the U.S. assassination of top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. Iran responded with missile strikes on two Iraqi bases housing U.S. soldiers. No casualties were reported.

Hours later, the passenger jet crashed. U.S., Canadian and British officials say they have intelligence that Iranian missiles, probably fired by mistake, brought down the airliner.

“Iran has been a bad actor. Soleimani was a bad actor,” Speier acknowledged.

“But there are many people in that region and around the world who are bad actors,” she said. “We have to find a way to live together and attempt to move towards peace.”

[spence]

That’s not laying direct blame, it’s an observation that without Trump’s significant escalation the wheels wouldn’t have been in motion. It in no way exonerates Iran.

Keep digging.
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[scottw]

every time I think the leftists have reached peak stupid...they soar to new heights

[Jim in CT]

spence, what about the Wright Brothers, they're the ones who invented the airplane, are you and your fellow snowflakes going to let them off the hook?

Maybe they were democrats, because if they were republicans, you’d be throwing them under the bus too.

You’re humiliating yourself and getting bitch slapped even by TDF, one of the most easygoing and non partisan people here.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

every time I think the leftists have reached peak stupid...they soar to new heights

why do you think their last legions of support are Hollywood and academia?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

“But there are many people in that region and around the world who are bad actors,” she said. “We have to find a way to live together and attempt to move towards peace.”

My god, what an idea! How come
no one has ever tried that before with these people?!

We did move towards peace. You can’t achieve peace when terrorists and mass murderers are roaming free, can you?

I also see there are Iranians in the streets, protesting the incompetence of leadership for shooting down the jet. Another political victory. May God be with those poor people.


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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You’re humiliating yourself and getting bitch slapped even by TDF, one of the most easygoing and non partisan people here.
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2 for 1 special on reading comprehension classes this year, I’ll send you the coupon
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

2 for 1 special on reading comprehension classes this year, I’ll send you the coupon
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What are you afraid would
happen, exactly, if you conceded that democrats have been a wee bit quick to blame Trump for some
things? What exactly, are you afraid would happen if you did that?
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[Sea Dangles]

At this point I can’t help but feel bad for poor Jeff. I am sure he means well but it is obvious that the saber rattling has impacted his life negatively. He will never accept blame because that is simply how he was raised. It is good to be stubborn and stick to your guns when you are right. Unfortunately,he gets proven wrong consistently and simply can’t come to terms with his failings. Let’s hope he raises his children to be honest so this cycle can broken.
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[Jim in CT]

here Spence, I’ll show you, I’ll start off...

I think it’s wrong for people
on the right to say that Iran bought the missiles it fired at us, with the cash Obama sent them. We don’t know that’s true, and shouldn’t be saying so to score cheap political points.

There. I said it. Nothing bad happened to me!

My side isn’t right every single time, and i have news for you, neither is yours. And that’s ok.

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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Keep digging.
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Me??? You’re the one flailing the shovel and digging yourself a hole.

In the end though, you’re still Wrong, not right, mistaken, incorrect, inaccurate, misguided, or whatever other word you’d like to insert that means wrong.

You’re sitting in the back seat of the short bus on your way to common sense school.
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[Jim in CT]

TDF, next he’ll tell you that you took that story out of
context. Because
not only was the democratic congresswoman from California correct, but she was brilliant.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Or the classic “it’s not what she said, it’s what she didn’t say”
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Or the classic “it’s not what she said, it’s what she didn’t say”
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now you’re thinking like a liberal, boy-o.
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[wdmso]

State Department security officials weren't notified of 'imminent' threats to US embassies

republicans were outraged over bengiza being blamed on a movie , and held that even after the administration's dismissed that reason as incorrect

Yet now Republicans have no issue with the changing narrative coming out of the White House


And have no issues with these comments

“I think the president is making clear that the Democrats have been parroting Iranian talking points and almost taking the side of terrorists and those who were out to kill the Americans,” Stephanie Grisham said on Fox News. “I think the President was making the point that the Democrats seem to hate him so much that they’re willing to be on the side of countries and leadership of countries who want to kill Americans.


Grisham has yet to hold a single briefing since taking the role of President Donald Trump's chief spokeswoman in July, deciding instead to participate in interviews with friendly conservative television outlets like Fox News and One America News Network

And anyone who thinks this is acceptable is a sell out and is all in with Trump 1st country 2nd mentality