Biden promises there will be a cure for cancer if he’s elected

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Hmmmm, I assume this is acceptable.
President Trump has promised to cure cancer, eradicate AIDS, and ensure that American astronauts land on Mars if he wins a second term. “We will push onward with new medical frontiers. We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases—including cancer and others and we’re getting closer all the time,” Trump said to a cheering crowd at his rally in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday night. “We will eradicate AIDS in America once and for all and we’re very close. We will lay the foundation for landing American astronauts on the surface of Mars.”
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You're misunderstanding. It is different bc Trump built miles of new wa...ah Trump made other nations respect....ah Trump brought back clean coa… ah Trump wiped out the defi….ah Trump tells it like it....ah..

Nevermind.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

again, it would be nice to have a set of rules
applied consistently to presidents of both parties. both sides engage in this hypocrisy, but Trump has taken that hypocrisy to new heights.
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Fixed it for you

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did trump explicitly promise a cure, only on the condition that he get elected, bryan? if he did, well, we already knew he was a jerk. if he didn’t, dont compare him to someone who did.
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Yes, though probably he was joking again.
SAD, it's acceptable if it's your hero. (that you don't really like)

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yes, though probably he was joking again.
SAD, it's acceptable if it's your hero. (that you don't really like)

let’s back up. when i said biden said some awful things, you said it was “bizarre” of me to believe he said them. so i posted the videos showing he said exactly what i claimed he said. exactly.

did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

obama separated
kids from parents at the birder. No one said anything. Trump expands in that, and he gets accused of setting up concentration camps, if being this monster. Why was it acceptable for obama to do
it?

this is the hypocrisy and derangement. pointing that out, doesn’t make me a trump sympathizer. i hate trump, but i think criticism should
be fair and accurate. not tinfoil
hat wearing gibberish.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

let’s back up. when i said biden said some awful things, you said it was “bizarre” of me to believe he said them. so i posted the videos showing he said exactly what i claimed he said. exactly.

did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

obama separated
kids from parents at the birder. No one said anything. Trump expands in that, and he gets accused of setting up concentration camps, if being this monster. Why was it acceptable for obama to do
it?

this is the hypocrisy and derangement. pointing that out, doesn’t make me a trump sympathizer. i hate trump, but i think criticism should
be fair and accurate. not tinfoil
hat wearing gibberish.
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The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has. Apparently he is acceptable to you. SAD

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has.

this is a pretty myopic view

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

this is dumb

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is dumb

You've got it also.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has. Apparently he is acceptable to you. SAD

You dodged my question completely. Was it "bizarre" for me to claim Biden said those things? Or is there proof that he actually said them? Do you stand my the insult you threw at me?

So you agree that past presidents, some of whom you support, did the same things Trump does. He just des it more often.

I completely, 100% agree with that statement. So stop acting as if the others didn't do the same exact thing, with your approval.

"Apparently he is acceptable to you"

His behavior is unacceptable to me, for the 1,000th time. But like with my CEO, I can put up with him being a jerk, if he makes my life better. Trump is making my life better IMO, so if he wants to be a world-class jerk along the way, that's better than a well-mannered idiot who can't do anything right. Isn't it?

It's also worth pointing out that his opponent in the 2016 election, also took lying, greed, and corruption to new heights. She wasn't as crass or as vulgar as Trump, but a disgusting person nonetheless.

Character wasn't on the ballot in 2016.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

He insulted me when I claimed Biden said some things, said it was bizarre that I could accuse Biden of saying them. You claimed that no sane person thinks Biden is a jerk. So I posted multiple videos of Biden saying the exact things I claimed he said. Neither of you had it in you, to admit I was right. What does that say about you two?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You dodged my question completely. Was it "bizarre" for me to claim Biden said those things? Or is there proof that he actually said them? Do you stand my the insult you threw at me?

So you agree that past presidents, some of whom you support, did the same things Trump does. He just des it more often.

I completely, 100% agree with that statement. So stop acting as if the others didn't do the same exact thing, with your approval.

"Apparently he is acceptable to you"

His behavior is unacceptable to me, for the 1,000th time. But like with my CEO, I can put up with him being a jerk, if he makes my life better. Trump is making my life better IMO, so if he wants to be a world-class jerk along the way, that's better than a well-mannered idiot who can't do anything right. Isn't it?

It's also worth pointing out that his opponent in the 2016 election, also took lying, greed, and corruption to new heights. She wasn't as crass or as vulgar as Trump, but a disgusting person nonetheless.

Character wasn't on the ballot in 2016.

Sorry if you are insulted, I assumed you were happy that you found the backup for your claim and your ego didn't need my approval.

Everyone can screw up, the difference between a moral person and in immoral one is knowing that you did, apologizing if needed.
Still waiting to see Trump do that once.

Trump is a congenital liar and that is unacceptable to me.

Not many CEOs i've worked for or known have been jerks, a few but they were not the most successful ones. One was comparable in narcissism to Trump, he committed suicide eventually.
I'm sorry that you have to work for a jerk and perhaps you should make your feelings known, I'm sure he'd appreciate the criticism and comparison.

Hillary lost the electoral college years ago, get over it.

Hopefully there will be a worthy candidate and character will count in this election.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Sorry if you are insulted, I assumed you were happy that you found the backup for your claim and your ego didn't need my approval.

Everyone can screw up, the difference between a moral person and in immoral one is knowing that you did, apologizing if needed.
Still waiting to see Trump do that once.

Trump is a congenital liar and that is unacceptable to me.

Not many CEOs i've worked for or known have been jerks, a few but they were not the most successful ones. One was comparable in narcissism to Trump, he committed suicide eventually.
I'm sorry that you have to work for a jerk and perhaps you should make your feelings known, I'm sure he'd appreciate the criticism and comparison.

Hillary lost the electoral college years ago, get over it.

Hopefully there will be a worthy candidate and character will count in this election.

"Sorry if you are insulted"

You asked me to answer your question, I took it head-on. I asked you to answer my question, you refused. I tried. Have a good day Pete.

[wdmso]

Jim. Just saw a clip of Trump at a campaign rally Monday Stating were going to fix cancer ... spin that.

At the president's official re-election kickoff event on Tuesday, Don Jr. mocked Joe Biden over his cancer moonshot. And the crowd went wild. !!!! And a mere few hours later President Trump said 'we' will come up with a cure for many diseases, including cancer.

What reality does his supporters live in ??
I
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim. Just saw a clip of Trump at a campaign rally Monday Stating were going to fix cancer ... spin that.

At the president's official re-election kickoff event on Tuesday, Don Jr. mocked Joe Biden over his cancer moonshot. And the crowd went wild. !!!! And a mere few hours later President Trump said 'we' will come up with a cure for many diseases, including cancer.

What reality does his supporters live in ??
I
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here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

However, from what i saw, Trump didn’t say that curing cancer was
contingent to his getting elected. he didn’t say we’d cure cancer, only if he was elected.

i liked the cancer moonshot initiative. setting lofty goals
and sharing hope, is good. telling people that they will live only if you get elected, is bad.

Here’s the reality I live in. Trump signed the “right to try” act, which gives sick people who haven’t been helped
by established treatments, the right to try experimental treatment not yet approved by the FDA. no one before trump bothered to sign what is such an obvious thing. He signed it, and it’s irrefutable fact that people are alive today because of it. Obama or bush could easily have signed that, they chose not to.

trump absolutely deserves credit for that. is he a jerk? hell yes. did he do something no one else bothered to do, to save lives? hell, yes.

what do you think?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

However, from what i saw, Trump didn’t say that curing cancer was
contingent to his getting elected. he didn’t say we’d cure cancer, only if he was elected. Really? As usual, you try and use semantics to excuse Trump and demonize others to justify Trump's behavior. Typical Obergruppensplainer behavior.


i liked the cancer moonshot initiative. setting lofty goals
and sharing hope, is good. telling people that they will live only if you get elected, is bad.

Here’s the reality I live in. Trump signed the “right to try” act, which gives sick people who haven’t been helped
by established treatments, the right to try experimental treatment not yet approved by the FDA. no one before trump bothered to sign what is such an obvious thing. He signed it, and it’s irrefutable fact that people are alive today because of it. Obama or bush could easily have signed that, they chose not to.

trump absolutely deserves credit for that. is he a jerk? hell yes. did he do something no one else bothered to do, to save lives? hell, yes.

what do you think?
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Ask your physician about Right to Try and get his opinion.

Talk about giving false hope.

Or do a little research outside of the far right media, follow the money. I bet you'll end up at CTCA.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

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trumplican always defending trump and his base!!!#$#@!!!

trump didn't sound as dumb as biden and that has them perplexed...also, trump fills stadiums biden can't draw flies




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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ask your physician about Right to Try and get his opinion.

Talk about giving false hope.

Or do a little research outside of the far right media, follow the money. I bet you'll end up at CTCA.

“we’ll come up with a cure for cancer and we’re getting closer all
the time”. what trump said. not how i would have liked him to say it.

“if i’m elected...i promise we’ll cure cancer”. what biden said. there are semantic differences, you’re right!

they’re both disgusting people.

gotta get back to puttin y’all back in chains! which you denied he said, then never ever commented on it after i showed the video, because unlike me, you are physically incapable of criticizing politicians whose policies you like.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

trumplican always defending trump and his base!!!#$#@!!!

trump didn't sound as dumb as biden and that has them perplexed...also, trump fills stadiums biden can't draw flies




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trump packs stadiums, biden can’t fill the atrium of an apartment complex. i still don’t see how trump could beat biden, but (1) i said thee thing about hilary and i was as foolishly wrong as everyone else, and (2) i can’t see biden getting the nomination. they’re too wrapped
up in identity politics. if the superdelegates were still around in their old form, that would help biden. the democrats are too busy looking for a transgender, orphaned, native american candidate who is in a wheelchair, someone who checks off all the “victim” boxes. they should
create one in a lab at CNN.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i still don’t see how trump could beat biden,

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you said the same thing about hillary


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

you said the same thing about hillary


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i sure did. read the next sentence i wrote after that. plus i don’t think biden gets the nomination, he has lots of baggage that won’t play well in today’s democrat party ( which looks a lot like the ‘cantina scene ‘from the first star wars movie).
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

“we’ll come up with a cure for cancer and we’re getting closer all
the time”. what trump said. not how i would have liked him to say it.

“if i’m elected...i promise we’ll cure cancer”. what biden said. there are semantic differences, you’re right!

they’re both disgusting people.

gotta get back to puttin y’all back in chains! which you denied he said, then never ever commented on it after i showed the video, because unlike me, you are physically incapable of criticizing politicians whose policies you like.
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PeteF is confused by truth and facts.
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[Pete F.]

Not as confused as the stable genius
"I’ve heard and studied the Laffer Curve for many years in the Wharton School of Finance," @realDonaldTrump (@Wharton '68) said today at the White House as he honored Art Laffer, who famously drew the curve on a napkin... in 1974
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[Sea Dangles]

Great school, a lot of great minds have been through those halls.
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[PaulS]

7 pages - figured I'd pull it to the top just to reread this.