Gods Intention

[Sea Dangles]

It is too bad you are missing the point here.
There have been enough advances and contributions from people who were "mistakes".There is certainly nobody alive who is less of a person,regardless of conception. But to characterize it as Gods will under those circumstances is reckless and deranged.

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It is too bad you are missing the point here.

It's not that your point is being missed. It's that your point is being disputed.

There have been enough advances and contributions from people who were "mistakes".There is certainly nobody alive who is less of a person,regardless of conception.

Excellent point, and tending toward the argument that disputes your real point which is:

But to characterize it as Gods will under those circumstances is reckless and deranged.

So you claim to know God's will more than Mourdock/Murdoch?

The counter argument is that pregnancy is a result of sexual union, and that the result is not dependent on human laws or social restrictions or personal preferences or "horrible situations". If you believe in God, it would not be reckless or deranged to believe that the process, being His creation, is His will. It would be a contradiction to say that it wasn't. The same would apply to those who believe in "nature" and its "evolution" in which the process of pregnancy as a result of sexual union is the same regardless of "horrible situations."

As for what humans do with God's creation (if you believe your god has given them free will)--that is a matter of consequences either for trespassing His will by doing harm to his creation (which includes other human beings) and reaping his punishment for disobedience--as might be exemplifed by the rapist; or by suffering the "horrible situations" that others impose in order to abide by His will and reaping His reward--as might be exemplified by the girl that jackbass knew who lovingly raised her child who was conceived as a result of rape.

That is all to say that Murdoch's remark was not meant to mean that rape is God's will, it is to say that the process of creating new life is God's creation and therefore His will. How we treat that creation, is not His will, but the free will He has given us and by which we will be judged.

And as a Senator in the Federal Government, he would not have, as Romney states, power to impose those beliefs on others. Reproductive "rights" are the domain of the states not the Federal Government--that is if you abide by the Constitution.