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PaulS · 09-15-2016, 07:14 AM

Have I mentioned Racism in my posts other than to mention what Colin Powell thinks of the birther movement (and I guess the Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump).

However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.

But back to the orginal point - in that absense of any real voter fraud do you agree that the NC voter ID law (and the other aspects like closing polling places, shorting voting times, etc.) was meant to prevent Blacks from voting?

The Dad Fisherman · 09-15-2016, 07:19 AM

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However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.

Well, Explain it to me?

Jim in CT · 09-15-2016, 07:21 AM

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Well, Explain it to me?

(1) Colin Powell said so.
(2) it makes conservatives look hateful

That, to liberals, more than suffices as evidence of racism.

PaulS · 09-15-2016, 08:09 AM

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Well, Explain it to me?

The many, many racist signs which were so prevelant early on.

The Dad Fisherman · 09-15-2016, 08:25 AM

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The many, many racist signs which were so prevelant early on.

were any of those signs being held by elected officials?

there are kooks and a-holes in all walks of life.....just because some racist nut cases show up in support of something doesn't make that initial thing racist.

I asked how does asking somebody for a birth certificate or proof of citizenship meet the definition of racism.

was it racist for people to ask for Ted Cruz's proof?

scottw · 09-15-2016, 08:26 AM

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was it racist for people to ask for Ted Cruz's proof?

and John McCain

PaulS · 09-15-2016, 08:46 AM

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I asked how does asking somebody for a birth certificate or proof of citizenship meet the definition of racism.

Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?

Jim in CT · 09-15-2016, 08:57 AM

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Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?

For Gods sake man, you said those id laws were put in, specifically to suppress black voter turnout.

So now you are claiming, that suppressing black votes, is not racist?

The Dad Fisherman · 09-15-2016, 09:06 AM

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Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?

I did...

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However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.

JohnR · 09-15-2016, 09:23 AM

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This is surreal. We keep asking why the id process is more burdensome for blacks, and you will not answer. You dodge. You re-direct. You insult. But you cannot answer the question directly.

Colin Powell? Now that his emails were hacked, we really know what he thinks of Hilary (ambitious, full of hubris) and her pervert husband (still di*king bimbos in his home!!!).

Of course, some racists were birthers. That doesn't mean questioning his birth, was necessarily racist. Some of them weren't racist, just paranoid or stupid or uninformed.

Anyway, one final time...please tell us why it's harder for blacks to get this id, than whites.

Dog Whistles. If one makes everything a dog whistle and condition people to yelp, you can ignore parsing at a deeper level.

Dog Whistle: Asking for birth certificate is racist
Dog Whistle: Strong Border security is racist
Dog Whistle: Illegal immigration is racist
Dog Whistle: Requiring people proving eligibility to vote is racist.

We have some of the most lax border security, citizenship, and voting laws in the world, yet they are still racist.

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Use the brain Luke!
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Use Common Sense, Jar Jar

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Re structuring voting precincts, closing polling areas in urban areas could be used as an example.
Personally I don't think that blacks are suppressed from voting
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I would think if you apply the same rules for everyone that would not be racist. Punish the ones that violate that. As for Gerrymandering - that is a game the Dems play better than Rs. I guess that is why in a blue state we only hear it happening in Red states

PaulS · 09-15-2016, 09:26 AM

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I did...

You have bad reading comprehension.

You said "I asked how does asking somebody for a birth certificate or proof of citizenship meet the definition of racism."

and I said "Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?"

and you quoted me as saying "However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it."

Aren't they 2 different things? I never said that asking for a birth certificate or a proof of citizenship met the definition of racism. I'm sure when President Obama first ran for Senate or was put on the foreign relations committeed he was asked for his birth certificate.

Jim in CT · 09-15-2016, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS

Have I mentioned Racism in my posts other than to mention what Colin Powell thinks of the birther movement (and I guess the Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump).

However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.

But back to the orginal point - in that absense of any real voter fraud do you agree that the NC voter ID law (and the other aspects like closing polling places, shorting voting times, etc.) was meant to prevent Blacks from voting?

"Have I mentioned Racism in my posts "

Are you feeling OK? Seriously, are you OK? Because you have said a couple of times lately, that "Republicans have no use for minorities. "

"It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it"

Ah, but you didn't say there was "some" racism. You said the movement itself was racist. Two very different things. I don't think liberals even notice anymore, when they accuse conservatives of racism. It's like breathing to them (and you) now. You don't even notice when you are doing it anymore.

PaulS · 09-15-2016, 08:23 AM

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"Have I mentioned Racism in my posts "

Are you feeling OK? Seriously, are you OK? Because you have said a couple of times lately, that "Republicans have no use for minorities. "So you think my saying that is saying they are racist?

"It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it"

Ah, but you didn't say there was "some" racism.Actually I think you need to go back and read what I wrote I never mentioned racism 1 way or the other. I repeated what the person you hold up to show the Repubs. appeal to minorities said about the birher movement. You said the movement itself was racist. Pls. point out where I said that. Two very different things. I don't think liberals even notice anymore, when they accuse conservatives of racism. It's like breathing to them (and you) now. You don't even notice when you are doing it anymore.

Can you pls. point out where I accused conservatives of racism?

Jim in CT · 09-15-2016, 08:53 AM

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Can you pls. point out where I accused conservatives of racism?

Do you have a concussion?

You said that the GOP has no use for minorities.

Here are some other things you said on this thread, these are exact quotes...

"you can't tell me that those Repub. Legisl. put those restrictions in for any other reason than to keep minorities from being able to vote"

"Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist. "

"The many, many racist signs which were so prevelant early on. "

90% of your posts accuse conservatives of racism. The other 10% of your posts, consist of you stubbornly saying that you never accused anyone of racism.

George Bush - saved a million lives in Africa, promoted many blacks to very high profile positions (but he was called a racist by your side)

John McCain - adopted an orphaned girl from Bangladesh (the New York Times published a front page story, totally false, that he fathered the girl with a mistress). Read that again. Adopting an orphan from Bangladesh, is one of the finest expressions of love a human being can contemplate. And instead of giving him credit for that, it was used as a club against him.

Mitt Romney - has a black grandson. For that, the family was ridiculed by a black host at MSNBC who has her own program and is paid a king's ransom, that's how highly she is thought of.

If these GOP leaders are racists, they really stink at being racist. They need to take some lessons on how to really be racist.