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buckman · 04-21-2009, 01:59 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/...piracy_suspect

Read the part about the US lawyers offering there services. What a country. We will be supporting (here I go again) this POS before it's over. One bullet away from having it done with. Damn hindsight

Nebe · 04-21-2009, 02:16 PM

that guys got it made in the shade now- our prison system is like a 4 star hotel to a bum from Somalia..

Cool Beans · 04-21-2009, 02:36 PM

I think its highly doubtful that he gets to prison. He'll be released, typical lawyer talk. "He was coerced by drug lords" "He was under a flag of truce and not subject to capture" everyone knows pirate law, you can't harm someone under the rule of "parlay". Mark my words, he will end up under some form of asylum and live out his life in America, and if he is only 16 his mom will be brought over too. A slap on the wrist, and he'll be an American on welfare and foodstamps.

Nebe · 04-21-2009, 02:54 PM

maybe he will get a book deal.

oh wait... RECORD DEAL..move over snoop dog.. the pie rat is in da house...

RIROCKHOUND · 04-21-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool Beans

A slap on the wrist, and he'll be an American on welfare and foodstamps.

Yup.
thats how I see it going down...

RIJIMMY · 04-21-2009, 03:01 PM

that guy won the lottery

Raven · 04-21-2009, 03:19 PM

On OPRAH

EarnedStripes44 · 04-21-2009, 03:29 PM

Fresh fruit delivered to his residence...

spence · 04-21-2009, 05:02 PM

You ever stop and think that's exactly why he jumped on the US boat in the first place?

I'm sure he's going to be held accountable for his actions (as he should) but this isn't the person to make an example of. A bullet Buck? The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

Raven · 04-21-2009, 05:20 PM

in that part of the world
he may have already killed
a hundred human beings.
so age of innocence is irrelevant

buckman · 04-21-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

You ever stop and think that's exactly why he jumped on the US boat in the first place?

I'm sure he's going to be held accountable for his actions (as he should) but this isn't the person to make an example of. A bullet Buck? The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

This is why the world is going to hell. You are making excuses for someone that may or may not be 16. He is a criminal. just like the kids in Columbine and the thugs that kill each other on the streets of Boston. Everyones a damn victim now.
That kid is no pawn and he has seen more and done more then you and I. They live a tough life, but not all become pirates. Give me a break.

spence · 04-21-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

This is why the world is going to hell. You are making excuses for someone that may or may not be 16. He is a criminal. just like the kids in Columbine and the thugs that kill each other on the streets of Boston. Everyones a damn victim now.
That kid is no pawn and he has seen more and done more then you and I. They live a tough life, but not all become pirates. Give me a break.

You didn't read my post, you just had a knee jerk hissy fit.

Funny, I knew you would

-spence

Mike P · 04-21-2009, 06:53 PM

Anyone care to hazard a guess on what the conviction rate is in the Federal courts? You guys must think they're going to haul this guy in front of a typical Massachusetts District Court judge

I'd bet you on a long stretch in a max secure Federal prison but I think I'd be stealing your money

RIROCKHOUND · 04-21-2009, 07:11 PM

MikeP; me too...
I think my sarcasm was lost in translation...

Cool Beans · 04-21-2009, 07:19 PM

We should start a pool as to who is closest to the punishment this punk gets. Winner gets some plugs or something.

Used to be anyone caught involved in piracy were shot on site, or hanged the day after their "trial" (may not have been much of a trial but efficient).

Cool Beans · 04-21-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

I'd bet you on a long stretch in a max secure Federal prison but I think I'd be stealing your money

If the kid is only 16, like his Mom says, I can't see any long term punishments. A minor can just about get away with murder and get sent to Juvenal Hall. I'm sure it will all spin out that he was forced into it, maybe some sort of threat to his family if he didn't. Something will come up, that will pull the heart strings of the media and in turn the left and he may never see a federal court room.

justplugit · 04-21-2009, 07:31 PM

Guess ya havta do a carbon test on him first to determine his true age.

Cool Beans · 04-21-2009, 07:36 PM

Its starting already, this is from the AP.

"MOGADISHU, Somalia – At home in central Somalia, Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse studied English, frequented a dusty, outdoor cinema after school where he watched Bollywood films dubbed into his native Somali and, his mother says, "was wise beyond his years."
The neighborhood where he grew up in the town of Galkayo is one of small homes with corrugated iron roofs, and no running water or electricity.
"The last time I saw him he was in his school uniform," the teen's mother, Adar Abdirahman Hassan, 40, told The Associated Press by telephone Tuesday from her home in Galkayo. "He was brainwashed. People who are older than him outwitted him, people who are older than him duped him.""

JohnnyD · 04-21-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool Beans

If the kid is only 16, like his Mom says, I can't see any long term punishments. A minor can just about get away with murder and get sent to Juvenal Hall. I'm sure it will all spin out that he was forced into it, maybe some sort of threat to his family if he didn't. Something will come up, that will pull the heart strings of the media and in turn the left and he may never see a federal court room.

He's being charged as an Adult. No brief trips to juvey for him.

MarshCappa · 04-21-2009, 08:42 PM

Maybe they'll waterboard him to give up the big boss.

buckman · 04-21-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

Sounds like the ground work being set by his lawyers to me, Spence.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Sometimes in the same post.

spence · 04-22-2009, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Sometimes in the same post.

Actually, it's called objectivity.

-spence

PaulS · 04-22-2009, 06:54 AM

For all the people who think he's going to get off w/o a sentence. Anyone want bet a plug?

spence · 04-22-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS

For all the people who think he's going to get off w/o a sentence. Anyone want bet a plug?

Yep, if the system has been so corrupted by Liberals as some have accused, it's time for them to put the money where the mouth is.

-spence

buckman · 04-22-2009, 03:07 PM

He already got off compared to the other guys fate. He's going to get the best lawyers because they love the limelight. He's got a chance, a good chance of getting off.

scottw · 04-22-2009, 03:15 PM

you guys bet...I will build a plug for the winner...

oh, it will have an eye patch so that when you fish with it you will laugh and remember how you got it...

JohnnyD · 04-22-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

you guys bet...I will build a plug for the winner...

oh, it will have an eye patch so that when you fish with it you will laugh and remember how you got it...

Now that's pretty awesome.

Very kind of you scott. I'm curious to see which one of them win.

spence · 04-22-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

He already got off compared to the other guys fate. He's going to get the best lawyers because they love the limelight. He's got a chance, a good chance of getting off.

How can you think he has a good chance? He's already lost the first round by being tried as an adult. He may not see life but he's in Federal prison for a good amount of time. It's not like he can argue that he isn't guilty of piracy. At best he can say he was forced into it, but even then he's not going to find a lot of love.

-spence

Cool Beans · 04-22-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

How can you think he has a good chance? He's already lost the first round by being tried as an adult. He may not see life but he's in Federal prison for a good amount of time. It's not like he can argue that he isn't guilty of piracy. At best he can say he was forced into it, but even then he's not going to find a lot of love.

-spence

He's being tried as an adult, because his father and brother both say he is 18 almost 19. His mother was more than likely going for sympathy by saying he was 16. Even tried as an adult, I still think there is a good chance he's getting off.

Swimmer · 04-22-2009, 07:15 PM

The first thing that will happen is that he'll get a job at Roche Bros. as a stock boy.

The second thing is that he'll say he is one of "the lost boys of Africa" who didn't walk across the continent. He chose to float his way here.

The third thing that will happen will be that Al Kuntsler, (or did he pass away), the pink attorney will represent him and he'll have him apply for citizenship.

The fourth thing that will happen is that his father will be proven right when he said the perp is 18 years of age, which will make the juvenile question moot.

The fifth thing, what MikeP says will happen, will happen, he'll go to club fed for a long time, and be place in the cell next to John (canoli) Connolly the crooked F.B.I. agent.