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Old 09-02-2022, 05:45 PM   #31
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Right?

Imagine if Jan6 had lasted three months in heavy mode and 18 months in light to moderate mode.

Wait.
Not even remotely the same but keep trying
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Old 09-02-2022, 05:51 PM   #32
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Seems you don’t know the difference between a Maga supporters and a trump supporter

You would be the latter
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Things that are divisive/demagogic:
—Calling the press the enemy of the people
When large portions of the press Actively suppresses information, or outright lies, putting their thumb on the scale of justice. The shoe fits.



—Banning entire religions from the country
Name one

—Siding with Putin over our own intelligence agencies


—Stealing state secrets to sell to our enemies
Prove it

—Inciting insurrections to overthrow the U.S. government
There was no way THAT was overthrowing the government. I have a lot of problems with Trump, Including Jan6, but it wasn't an overthrow, the Republic was not going to die that day. But particularly three years into the effing tantrum the left has thrown in this country, it mitigates a lot of the bad.
So Trump trying to over turn a national election is not an overthrow?

Then what would you call it ?

A missed opportunity

The republic didn’t die that day because it failed. Not sure how you can’t see that elephant in the room.

The press outing their Thumbs on the scales of justice
Love to hear how that works
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explain please.
So you don’t know which you Are?

Do you think the election was rigged
A yes makes you Maga

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So you don’t know which you Are?

Do you think the election was rigged
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i don’t think the election was rigged. i think trump lost because he’s an unbelievable jerk.

I’d never vote for trump in a primary. i’d almost certainly vote for him in a general against any democrat.

i want america to be great.

and i think it had to be a republican plant in the Biden administration who came up with the optics for that speech. all that was missing was the Darth Vader music.
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i don’t think the election was rigged. i think trump lost because he’s an unbelievable jerk.

I’d never vote for trump in a primary. i’d almost certainly vote for him in a general against any democrat.

i want america to be great.

and i think it had to be a republican plant in the Biden administration who came up with the optics for that speech. all that was missing was the Darth Vader music.

You need to make up your mind


there videos of capital police welcoming the trespassers in, talking to them causally, being polite

And. Your a Babbitt defender if Babbitt was black you would be defending the police suggesting she should have followed orders

The Maga world is a threat to America .

Just look at the meltdown of the FBI search.

Now they don’t like the lock him up chant
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there videos of capital police welcoming the trespassers in, talking to them causally, being polite

And. Your a Babbitt defender if Babbitt was black you would be defending the police suggesting she should have followed orders

The Maga world is a threat to America .

Just look at the meltdown of the FBI search.

Now they don’t like the lock him up chant
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i did make up my mind. most people
were just trespassing. some were rioting.

do you deny that there’s video evidence of capital police wrlcomgbthe trespassers?

i’ve been crystal clear. your turn. were there violent liberal riots in the summer of 2020? yes or no?
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i did make up my mind. most people
were just trespassing. some were rioting.

do you deny that there’s video evidence of capital police wrlcomgbthe trespassers?

i’ve been crystal clear. your turn. were there violent liberal riots in the summer of 2020? yes or no?
Are you referring to the Capitol police that were disciplined for taking photos with rioters?

Most people marching for BLM, the largest protest in the history of the USA were just exercising their constitutional right to protest, more than 95% of the protests were nonviolent.
In others right wing agitators were charged and convicted of crimes, in others people committed crimes.
In a Washington DC protest, the pastor of a church was driven out with gas for a presidential photo op.
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I'd heard they were trying to regain some sanity over at CNN....maybe



NEWSWEEK-CNN anchor Brianna Keilar criticized President Joe Biden after he delivered a speech with Marines positioned behind him Thursday evening. During his speech, the president issued a warning about Make America Great Again (MAGA) Republicans.

"Whatever you think of this speech, the military is supposed to be apolitical. Positioning Marines in uniform behind President Biden for a political speech flies in the face of that. It's wrong when Democrats do it. It's wrong when Republicans do it," Keilar said in a tweet on Thursday evening.

Others called out Biden for using Marines during the primetime address.

"We need to make sure that our military is as removed from politics as possible and it's not right if a Democrat uses the military as a political pawn and it's not right if the Republican Party does it as well. None of our politicians or elected leaders should do that," Allison Jaslow, a former official with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, told CNN.
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hey wayne...BBC...if satan rose from hell to give a speech

"Earlier on Thursday, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters that Mr Biden's speech was not going to be political.

But it was decidedly political."

"It made it look as though he were delivering his speech from the gates of hell - a mood only accentuated by the darker moments of his text.

His voice a bit hoarse - perhaps still rough from his recent bout with Covid-19 - the president flashed some anger as he denounced Maga Republicans who "embrace anger", "thrive on chaos" and "live not in the light of truth but in the shadow of lies".

There's an internet meme among Democrats about Mr Biden as "dark Brandon", vanquishing his political enemies without mercy. The visuals of this speech, intentional or not, will only feed those flames."
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I bet pete dresses up as dark brandon for halloween this year.....
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right, because it’s classier and therefore acceptable when senator chuck schumer tells the world the Gorsuch and Kavanaugh won’t know what hit them if they don’t vote in line with liberals, and that they’ll reap the whirlwind

whem has Joe Biden ever “just taken” anything without swinging back?

Biden : republicans want to put blacks back in chains. That was ok!

We can agree to dial down the rhetoric, or we can agree not to dial it down, but it can’t be expected that only one side has to behave like adults. T
For years Trumplicans said nothing while the tweet master demonized anyone who disagreed with him, from lock her up, lil Marco, lying Ted, encouraging supporters to beat up people, accusing critics of treason and murder, calling opponents fascists and retweeting a supporter’s tweet that “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat”

In 2020, Trump called Democrats "fascists" in '20 while surrounded by military officials.

No one remembers it bc Dems didn't feel threatened by his false claim.

Today, MAGA Republicans are angry at President Biden for a similar remark. Because they know it's true.
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Super Hero DARK BRANDON "There's no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country."

...and...

"MAGA Republicans have made their choice. They embrace anger. They thrive on chaos. They live not in the light of truth, but in the shadow of lies.


Milld Mannered Let's Go Brandon the very next day...

reporter... "Do you consider all Trump supporters to be a threat to this country?"

Let's Go Brandon "Come on, look, guys, you keep trying to make that case. I don't consider any Trump supporter to be a threat to the country"

it's like when Jim Carey would put on that mask... ..probably forgot everything from the night before
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Super Hero DARK BRANDON "There's no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country."

...and...

"MAGA Republicans have made their choice. They embrace anger. They thrive on chaos. They live not in the light of truth, but in the shadow of lies.


Milld Mannered Let's Go Brandon the very next day...

reporter... "Do you consider all Trump supporters to be a threat to this country?"

Let's Go Brandon "Come on, look, guys, you keep trying to make that case. I don't consider any Trump supporter to be a threat to the country"

it's like when Jim Carey would put on that mask... ..probably forgot everything from the night before
correct. mutually exclusive statements a few fours apart.
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Ken Casey of Dropkick Murphy calls it…..

https://twitter.com/wutangkids/statu...449UXaVswfAq_Q
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Donald Trump has called President Joe Biden an "enemy of the state" at his first rally since the FBI searched his Florida resort for sensitive files.

Funny how the head name caller and his supporters who love his childish behaviors are upset

Because Biden called them the F word

Yep facts and honesty Are not Trumps or his supporters strongest virtue
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Take Back Country From 'Insurrectionists and Lunatics'

Trump's latest rally proclamations



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So Trump trying to over turn a national election is not an overthrow?

Then what would you call it ?

A missed opportunity

The republic didn’t die that day because it failed. Not sure how you can’t see that elephant in the room.

The press outing their Thumbs on the scales of justice
Love to hear how that works
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I saw the same thing from the right (Verboten) that I have seen for years from the left (Righteous Patriotic Dissent).

I saw a day of BAD violence in a Gov Building, partially fueled by a foolish politician, versus MONTHS of Bad Violence IN and OUT of Gov Buildings, Cities, Towns partially fueled by a foolish politicians.

I saw foolish politicians on the right say the same things foolish politicians on the left said in 2016.

AND the media buried Hunter - they even admit it.

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I saw the same thing from the right (Verboten) that I have seen for years from the left (Righteous Patriotic Dissent).

I saw a day of BAD violence in a Gov Building, partially fueled by a foolish politician, versus MONTHS of Bad Violence IN and OUT of Gov Buildings, Cities, Towns partially fueled by a foolish politicians.

I saw foolish politicians on the right say the same things foolish politicians on the left said in 2016.

AND the media buried Hunter - they even admit it.
I see a lot of unnecessary rationalization . By you and others Trying to depict current and past events as some how the same .

While actual history and facts clearly suggest otherwise

In poll after poll, about 70% of Republicans say they don’t think Joe Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.


The Republican Party on Friday officially declared the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol and events that led to it “legitimate political discourse,” and rebuked two lawmakers in the party who have been most outspoken in condemning the deadly riot and the role of Donald J. Trump in spreading the election lies that fueled it.


Clearly we see the world via completely different lenses
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Opinion by S.E. Cupp, Tribune Content Agency - 2h ago

Over the past few days, it’s safe to say we’ve all shed a tear or two, maybe even said a prayer, and quietly reflected on the tremendous loss the world collectively experienced last week. For many that’s because of the historic and solemn events unfolding in the United Kingdom.

But I’m not talking about the death of Queen Elizabeth II at age 96. I’m talking about the grief and trauma many in MAGA world are apparently experiencing, inflicted by President Biden and his very mean speech earlier this month.

To listen to them bravely share their stories of pain and suffering is to truly break one’s heart. Before you keep reading, you might want to grab a tissue.

Rep. Lauren Boebert, the gentlelady from Colorado who once suggested a Muslim Democratic congresswoman was probably a terrorist, called Biden’s remarks about MAGA Republicans “disgusting and decisive [sic].” That was just before she accused him of having “cognitive failure.” As my therapist says, hurt people hurt people.

Minority House Leader Kevin McCarthy seemed utterly devastated when he lamented that Biden had “chosen to divide, demean, and disparage his fellow Americans. Why? Simply because they disagree with his policies.”

Yeah, what kind of monster would do such a thing? Like, what president would tell fellow Americans who disagreed with his policies — say, four elected women of color — to “go back” to their home countries?

What leader of the Free World would call the Americans who fought our wars “losers” and “suckers”? That would be unforgivable.

Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, was also personally afflicted by Biden’s comments, calling him “the most condescending president of my lifetime.”

Indeed. But could you imagine if Biden had said — of his own supporters — that, I don’t know, he “could stand in the middle of Fifth Ave. and shoot somebody” and they’d still vote for him? I mean, no politician would think that little of his or her base.

As for Mike Pence, the former vice president who insists he and Trump parted amicably despite a mob of Trump supporters calling for his death by hanging, he’s appalled by Biden’s reference to “semi-fascism.”

“Never before in the history of our nation has a president stood before the American people and accused millions of his own countrymen of being a ‘threat to this country.’ ”

Never — because what kind of president would call millions of his own countrymen fascists?

What kind of leader would call the free press, a sitting president and a secretary of state “the enemy”?

Who would call police officers who defended the Capitol against a violent mob of insurrectionists “p*ssies”?

Who would call members of the opposing political party “un-American” and “treasonous,” simply because they didn’t clap for you?

It’s unheard of.

Finally, the folks at Fox News are also bummed at Biden. Jesse Watters, a reliably sensitive host who once urged young conservatives to “ambush” Anthony Fauci and then “go in for the kill shot,” complained that Biden has waged a “war on terror” against him and other MAGA Republicans.

Harris Faulkner also wondered aloud, “Do we really, really love the citizens of this great nation? We have a president who hates at least half of them.”

These are the aching words of the downtrodden, mistreated and tortured souls of Trump’s MAGA army. How they survive in these unlivable conditions, under this kind of oppression, is anyone’s guess.

Perhaps, and I’m just spitballing, Biden’s words — that Trump and MAGA Republicans “represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic” — are cutting so deep because they are irrefutably true.

Storming the Capitol to overturn a democratic election is extreme and threatens the very foundations of our republic.

Nominating self-avowed election deniers to positions of power all over the country is extreme and threatens the very foundations of our republic.

Denying basic facts in favor of baseless conspiracy theories is extreme and threatens the very foundations of our republic.

Biden didn’t invent the idea that MAGA world is a threat to democracy, and most American people — including a quarter of Republicans — agree, according to recent polling.

But you can understand why this would be so hard to hear, so painful, so gut-wrenching, even for the party that belittles liberal “snowflakes” for finding words and ideas offensive…

…and even for the party that shrugged when Trump mocked a disabled journalist, a prisoner of war, a teenage activist, Asian accents and asylum seekers…

…and even for the party that accepted Trump’s disparaging comments about women, Jews, Blacks, Muslims, LGBTQ, immigrants and the poor.

Indeed, let’s all have some empathy and compassion for the aggrieved MAGA Republicans, who no longer feel safe in Joe Biden’s America.
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Opinion by S.E. Cupp, Tribune Content Agency - 2h ago

Over the past few days, it’s safe to say we’ve all shed a tear or two, maybe even said a prayer, and quietly reflected on the tremendous loss the world collectively experienced last week. For many that’s because of the historic and solemn events unfolding in the United Kingdom.

But I’m not talking about the death of Queen Elizabeth II at age 96. I’m talking about the grief and trauma many in MAGA world are apparently experiencing, inflicted by President Biden and his very mean speech earlier this month.

To listen to them bravely share their stories of pain and suffering is to truly break one’s heart. Before you keep reading, you might want to grab a tissue.

Rep. Lauren Boebert, the gentlelady from Colorado who once suggested a Muslim Democratic congresswoman was probably a terrorist, called Biden’s remarks about MAGA Republicans “disgusting and decisive [sic].” That was just before she accused him of having “cognitive failure.” As my therapist says, hurt people hurt people.

Minority House Leader Kevin McCarthy seemed utterly devastated when he lamented that Biden had “chosen to divide, demean, and disparage his fellow Americans. Why? Simply because they disagree with his policies.”

Yeah, what kind of monster would do such a thing? Like, what president would tell fellow Americans who disagreed with his policies — say, four elected women of color — to “go back” to their home countries?

What leader of the Free World would call the Americans who fought our wars “losers” and “suckers”? That would be unforgivable.

Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, was also personally afflicted by Biden’s comments, calling him “the most condescending president of my lifetime.”

Indeed. But could you imagine if Biden had said — of his own supporters — that, I don’t know, he “could stand in the middle of Fifth Ave. and shoot somebody” and they’d still vote for him? I mean, no politician would think that little of his or her base.

As for Mike Pence, the former vice president who insists he and Trump parted amicably despite a mob of Trump supporters calling for his death by hanging, he’s appalled by Biden’s reference to “semi-fascism.”

“Never before in the history of our nation has a president stood before the American people and accused millions of his own countrymen of being a ‘threat to this country.’ ”

Never — because what kind of president would call millions of his own countrymen fascists?

What kind of leader would call the free press, a sitting president and a secretary of state “the enemy”?

Who would call police officers who defended the Capitol against a violent mob of insurrectionists “p*ssies”?

Who would call members of the opposing political party “un-American” and “treasonous,” simply because they didn’t clap for you?

It’s unheard of.

Finally, the folks at Fox News are also bummed at Biden. Jesse Watters, a reliably sensitive host who once urged young conservatives to “ambush” Anthony Fauci and then “go in for the kill shot,” complained that Biden has waged a “war on terror” against him and other MAGA Republicans.

Harris Faulkner also wondered aloud, “Do we really, really love the citizens of this great nation? We have a president who hates at least half of them.”

These are the aching words of the downtrodden, mistreated and tortured souls of Trump’s MAGA army. How they survive in these unlivable conditions, under this kind of oppression, is anyone’s guess.

Perhaps, and I’m just spitballing, Biden’s words — that Trump and MAGA Republicans “represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic” — are cutting so deep because they are irrefutably true.

Storming the Capitol to overturn a democratic election is extreme and threatens the very foundations of our republic.

Nominating self-avowed election deniers to positions of power all over the country is extreme and threatens the very foundations of our republic.

Denying basic facts in favor of baseless conspiracy theories is extreme and threatens the very foundations of our republic.

Biden didn’t invent the idea that MAGA world is a threat to democracy, and most American people — including a quarter of Republicans — agree, according to recent polling.

But you can understand why this would be so hard to hear, so painful, so gut-wrenching, even for the party that belittles liberal “snowflakes” for finding words and ideas offensive…

…and even for the party that shrugged when Trump mocked a disabled journalist, a prisoner of war, a teenage activist, Asian accents and asylum seekers…

…and even for the party that accepted Trump’s disparaging comments about women, Jews, Blacks, Muslims, LGBTQ, immigrants and the poor.

Indeed, let’s all have some empathy and compassion for the aggrieved MAGA Republicans, who no longer feel safe in Joe Biden’s America.
Paul, there are truly despicable republicans. That’s not who bidem said was a threat. He cast the net a lot wider.

You found someone who doesn’t think anyone in the right has a reason to be upset at bidens speech. i can post articles from people who thought his tone was awful.

FYI, it’s kind of funny to describe people who want a smaller federal government, as fascists.
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Actually Trump's calling Dems. fascists was broader than Biden's.

In 2020, Trump called Democrats "fascists" while surrounded by military officials.

No one remembers it bc Dems didn't feel threatened by his false claim.

In the clip, the ex-president begins listing all the wrongs of the Democratic party, which included the move away from fossil fuels, reproductive rights and the claim that the party wanted to “replace American freedom with left-wing fascism.”

“Fascists. They are fascists. Some of them, not all of them. But some of them, but they’re getting closer and closer. We have to win this election,” Mr Trump adds in the since viral clip.
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