Now we're talking!

[RIJIMMY]

Im pretty impressed with this. Sorry Libs/dems but this is WAY better than anything that came out of 2 yrs under Obama, way better!
Think how simple some of this is. Every business in the world is trying to eliminate mail and paper expense. the IRS and Social Security should MANDATE electronic payments and direct deposit, hows that for "change"

So far, looks like the repubs are keeping to their promises. None of these cuts are making the rich richer. Now, lets see them get them done!

House GOP Lists $2.5 Trillion in Spending Cuts - Yahoo! Finance

[RIJIMMY]

ya gotta wonder....

Exchange Programs for Alaska, Natives Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts. $9 million annual savings.

General Assistance to District of Columbia. $210 million annual savings.

Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of. $15 billion total savings. (duh!)

Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings.

Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees. $1.2 billion savings over ten years.

[ecduzitgood]

I like where this thread is going

[JohnnyD]

This is excellent. Now we'll see if anything actually happens with it.

[PRBuzz]

Here's a good one to eliminate:

Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.

What do members of Congress need $$ for when they are DEAD?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by PRBuzz

Here's a good one to eliminate:

Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.

What do members of Congress need $$ for when they are DEAD?

AND, consider the dems want to tax the crap out of rich peoples estates!

[Jim in CT]

In 2012, TWENTY THREE Democratic US Senators are up for re-election. Too bad that wasn't the case in 2010. This is why the Senate won't bring health care repeal up for a vote, because NONE of those 23 senators wants to be on record as voting for Obamacare.

Every poll ever taken shows that we are a center-right nation. Hopefully, this momentum can lead to some actual improvements.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

So far, looks like the repubs are keeping to their promises. None of these cuts are making the rich richer. Now, lets see them get them done!

I like what I've seen over the first few weeks.

Reading of the Constitution reminding everyone that Congress
is the "People's House" not the politicians playground.

Having every Bill introduced accompanied by a an addition showing it is constitutional.

The first spending cut being on it's own Congressional Budget.

May all be symbolic but it's a good start.

[scottw]

Krauthammer has a great article today Obamacare must go

"dems have a strange way of reducing the deficit"

Suppose someone — say, the president of the United States — proposed the following: We are drowning in debt. More than $14 trillion right now. I’ve got a great idea for deficit reduction. It will yield savings of $230 billion over the next 10 years: We increase spending by $540 billion while we increase taxes by $770 billion.

He’d be laughed out of town. And yet, this is precisely what the Democrats are claiming as a virtue of Obamacare. During the debate over Republican attempts to repeal it, one of the Democrats’ major talking points has been that Obamacare reduces the deficit — and therefore its repeal raises it — by $230 billion. Why, the Congressional Budget Office says exactly that.

Very true, and very convincing. Until you realize where that number comes from. CBO director Douglas Elmendorf explains in his “preliminary analysis of H.R. 2” (the Republican health-care repeal): “CBO anticipates that enacting H.R. 2 would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion and a reduction in outlays in the vicinity of $540 billion.”

As National Affairs editor Yuval Levin pointed out when mining this remarkable nugget, this is a hell of a way to do deficit reduction: a radical increase in spending, topped by an even more radical increase in new taxes.

Why Everything Starts with Repeal - Charles Krauthammer - National Review Online

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

Krauthammer has a great article today Obamacare must go

"dems have a strange way of reducing the deficit"

Suppose someone — say, the president of the United States — proposed the following: We are drowning in debt. More than $14 trillion right now. I’ve got a great idea for deficit reduction. It will yield savings of $230 billion over the next 10 years: We increase spending by $540 billion while we increase taxes by $770 billion.

He’d be laughed out of town. And yet, this is precisely what the Democrats are claiming as a virtue of Obamacare. During the debate over Republican attempts to repeal it, one of the Democrats’ major talking points has been that Obamacare reduces the deficit — and therefore its repeal raises it — by $230 billion. Why, the Congressional Budget Office says exactly that.

Very true, and very convincing. Until you realize where that number comes from. CBO director Douglas Elmendorf explains in his “preliminary analysis of H.R. 2” (the Republican health-care repeal): “CBO anticipates that enacting H.R. 2 would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion and a reduction in outlays in the vicinity of $540 billion.”

As National Affairs editor Yuval Levin pointed out when mining this remarkable nugget, this is a hell of a way to do deficit reduction: a radical increase in spending, topped by an even more radical increase in new taxes.

Why Everything Starts with Repeal - Charles Krauthammer - National Review Online

Krauthammer is a genius. He's a atsunch conservative, obviously, but the man provides irrefutable fact to support his conclusions.

To the liberals here...if Obamacare only reduces the deficit by $230 billion because it raises taxes by $230 billion more than the plan costs, how is that a good thing?

The liberals will respond by calling Krauthammer a neocon, pro-Israel hack. They will not respond directly to his points, mind you, because they know they can't, they know that all of the facts and every speck of common sense are on his side. But they will attack him personally, like they always do.

I love Dr Krauthammer. He lays out the facts, and tells why what they are obviously suggesting.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by scottw

Krauthammer has a great article today Obamacare must go

"dems have a strange way of reducing the deficit"

Suppose someone — say, the president of the United States — proposed the following: We are drowning in debt. More than $14 trillion right now. I’ve got a great idea for deficit reduction. It will yield savings of $230 billion over the next 10 years: We increase spending by $540 billion while we increase taxes by $770 billion.

He’d be laughed out of town. And yet, this is precisely what the Democrats are claiming as a virtue of Obamacare. During the debate over Republican attempts to repeal it, one of the Democrats’ major talking points has been that Obamacare reduces the deficit — and therefore its repeal raises it — by $230 billion. Why, the Congressional Budget Office says exactly that.

Very true, and very convincing. Until you realize where that number comes from. CBO director Douglas Elmendorf explains in his “preliminary analysis of H.R. 2” (the Republican health-care repeal): “CBO anticipates that enacting H.R. 2 would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion and a reduction in outlays in the vicinity of $540 billion.”

As National Affairs editor Yuval Levin pointed out when mining this remarkable nugget, this is a hell of a way to do deficit reduction: a radical increase in spending, topped by an even more radical increase in new taxes.

Why Everything Starts with Repeal - Charles Krauthammer - National Review Online

As former CBO director Douglas Holtz-Eakin and scholars Joseph Antos and James Capretta note, “Only in Washington could the creation of a reckless entitlement program be used as [an] ‘offset’ to grease the way for another entitlement.” I would note additionally that only in Washington could such a neat little swindle be titled the “CLASS Act” (the Community Living Assistance Services and Supports Act).

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Im pretty impressed with this. Sorry Libs/dems but this is WAY better than anything that came out of 2 yrs under Obama, way better!
Think how simple some of this is. Every business in the world is trying to eliminate mail and paper expense. the IRS and Social Security should MANDATE electronic payments and direct deposit, hows that for "change"

So far, looks like the repubs are keeping to their promises. None of these cuts are making the rich richer. Now, lets see them get them done!

House GOP Lists $2.5 Trillion in Spending Cuts - Yahoo! Finance

It reads good here, but, will it ever be implemented?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

It reads good here, but, will it ever be implemented?

to be seen. realize that liberals will fight this tooth and nail. They still control the senate and the presidency. The machine will begin to roll - CNN will post pictures of homeless kids on the street, somehow linked to these cuts, MSNBC will show how these cuts put more money back in the hands of the rich (duh, they pay the most taxes!) the View will discuss how the greedy wall st repubs are further weakening our nation. And as the economy improves (which has been predicted well before ANY stimulus or Obama moves) the libs will point to Obamas success and try to undermine any repub finanical decisions. you heard it here first.......................

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

to be seen. realize that liberals will fight this tooth and nail. They still control the senate and the presidency.

Yes, but I will be interested and optimistic to see some cuts made. I think it is a powerful message going into 2012 if some on the left are making cuts. Much like Jim says they don't want to be on the record FOR health care, they want to be on the record making some cuts.

It also puts the right on the spot to 'stay the course' the pushed in the past election...

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

And as the economy improves (which has been predicted well before ANY stimulus or Obama moves) the libs will point to Obamas success and try to undermine any repub finanical decisions. you heard it here first.......................

Yeah.. it's a good thing no one on the right blamed him soley for the economy bein in the crapper.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Krauthammer is a genius. He's a atsunch conservative, obviously, but the man provides irrefutable fact to support his conclusion.
I love Dr Krauthammer. He lays out the facts, and tells why what they are obviously suggesting.

Yes, a man of extreme intelligence, highly educated, and having the rare
common sense not found in most intellectuals.

[scottw]

"Last fall at a luncheon announcing her leaving the chairmanship of the Council of Economic Advisors, Christina Romer admitted that she and the council made serious errors in their assumptions, that the stimulus failed and taxes should be cut to stimulate economic growth. However, during her tenure as Obama's chief economist, she faithfully toed the company line and was there to support the policies of the President.

The latest example of this transformative action is Peter Orszag, former Obama Director of the Office of Management and Budget. In that position he oversaw and proposed budgets which averaged deficits of $1.4 Trillion per year. No effort was made to trim or argue against the massive spending spree of the Obama administration and the Democrats in Congress.

Yesterday Mr. Orszag wrote an op-ed piece in the Financial Times entitled: "America Must Brace Itself for Turbulence." From the article:

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At the Federal level the combination of ongoing weakness in the labor market and large structural budget deficits means the right policy mix should be more stimulus now and more deficit reduction, enacted now, to take effect in two to three years. Policymakers have acted on the first part, most prominently through the payroll tax holiday announced in December...


They have not, however, undertaken the harder work needed to reduce projected deficits over the next decade. Most fundamentally it is difficult to see how the medium-term federal deficit can be reduced to sustainable levels without additional tax revenue from those earning less than $250,000.00 a year. [Italics added]


If policymakers will not act before we have a fiscal crisis at the federal level, a fiscal crisis we will have.


Mr. Orszag concludes:


The bottom line is that there may well be US public debt tremors this year, both during federal debate over raising the debt ceiling and with at least a limited number of crises in local and city governments. The bigger problem, though, lies beyond 2011, as the unsustainablity of the federal government's fiscal trajectory becomes increasingly clear. I hope it does not ultimately require a crisis to restore fiscal sustainability at the federal level, but I fear it will. I wonder what that will look like...no more 200 dollar a bottle wine at White House functions?

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This is a far different from the policies Mr. Orzsag or for that matter Ms. Romer were publicly espousing when they were in thrall to the Obama agenda. If they know now that the fiscal policies of the Obama administration are unsustainable, did they not realize it at the time when they were key architects of these actions?


It is always cathartic to realize the failure of one's actions and intentions; but in this case many millions of Americans are suffering and the prospect of severe economic upheaval in the not too distant future is a near certainty because of these failures."