Drip.....Drip.....Drip...the Russians are coming

[Pete F.]

Julian Assange's lawyer has just told a British court that Rep. Rohrabacher (R-CA) passed a message to Assange from Agolf Twittler that if Assange agreed to cover up Russian involvement in hacking DNC emails (published by WikiLeaks) that Agolf would pardon him.

Lawyer's don't usually make claims in court they can't prove. Will be interesting to see if there is proof of these serious allegations Rohrabacher was the WH's messenger, offering a pardon in exchange for silence on Russia's hack of our election.

With Agolf, it’s impossible to discount an allegation of criminality that, against anyone else, would seem absurd.

So far just a claim in court by one scoundrel's lawyers, but it would be probably the worst thing that has happened so far if it's borne out--and man is that saying something.

There has been talk previously of both Roger Stone and former Rep. Dana Rohrabacher trying to broker a pardon for Assange.

This description seems to match reported effort by Rohrabacher: https://wsj.com/articles/gop-congres...509918?tesla=y

And guess who's on the "don't know him" list now?

Stephanie Grisham on Assange: “The President barely knows Dana Rohrabacher other than he’s an ex-congressman. He’s never spoken to him on this subject or almost any subject. It is a complete fabrication and a total lie. This is probably another never ending hoax and total lie from the DNC"

There's always a tweet for that.........

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Dana Rohrabacher has been a great Congressman for his District and for the people of Cal. He works hard and is respected by all - he produces! Dems are desperate to replace Dana by spending vast sums to elect a super liberal who is weak on Crime and bad for our Military & Vets!
12:32 AM · Nov 5, 2018·Twitter for iPhone

[detbuch]

So Trump didn't lie and your drip drip is just another dry faucet.

From Yahoo News Michaeil Isikoff today:

A lawyer for Assange in London on Wednesday cited the pardon offer from Rohrabacher during a court hearing on the U.S. government’s request to extradite the WikiLeaks founder.

White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham immediately denounced the claim about a pardon discussion with Assange as a “complete fabrication” and that the president “barely knows Dana Rohrabacher” and has “never spoken to him on this subject or almost any subject.”

Rohrabacher said not only did talk of a Trump pardon take place during his meeting, but he followed up by calling then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly to discuss the proposal. He did not, however, ever speak to Trump about it, he said.

“I spoke to Julian Assange and told him if he would provide evidence about who gave WikiLeaks the emails I would petition the president to give him a pardon,” Rohrabacher said. “He knew I could get to the president.”

When he spoke to Kelly, the then-chief of staff was “courteous” but made no commitment that he would even raise the matter directly with the president. “He knew this had to be handled with care,” Rohrabacher said, and that it could be spun by the news media in ways that would be “harmful” to the president. In fact, Rohrabacher said he never heard anything further from Kelly about the matter nor did he ever discuss the subject directly with Trump.

Rohrabacher also emphasized in the interview that he only wanted “truthful” information from Assange and never suggested that he “lie.”

[Pete F.]

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,”
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said on a recording of Republican leaders made on June 15, 2016.

Some of the lawmakers on the tape laughed at McCarthy’s comment.

Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

[Got Stripers]

It’s amazing how many people Trump claims he barely or doesn’t know, until he suddenly is forced to admit it and if you believe any claims coming out of this lying administration; you just need something to eat with your coolaid.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

coolaid

everybody drink!!

poor desperate snowflakes....

[Pete F.]

Another GOP member who went on his own "fact finding mission" a la Giuliani — but supposedly all on his own. And to get Assange to deny Russian involvement. Yeah, sure.

[Pete F.]

To be fair, dementia plays havoc with one’s memory. This might account for why he can’t remember Dana Rohrabacher, Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman and a multitude of other criminal co-conspirators. Just sayin...

[Pete F.]

And Twittler didn't send Giuliani to Ukraine to dig up dirt on the Bidens. Until he admitted it. And he didn't know Lev Parnas, although a dozen photos show he did. And then there was this meeting in the WH with Rohrabacher.
Agolf didn’t know Lev Parnas but so many pictures, meals shared, etc. If I was going to bet, there are likely pictures here too with Rohrabacher.. let’s wait and see if this is the standard gaslighting Twittler operation.
Yes it exists, it is Dana Rohrabacher with Lev Parnas at the inaugural ball.
And Rohrabacher at the WH.
Amazing, how many coincidences there are with Agolf and Russian operatives........

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And Twittler didn't send Giuliani to Ukraine to dig up dirt on the Bidens. Until he admitted it. And he didn't know Lev Parnas, although a dozen photos show he did. And then there was this meeting in the WH with Rohrabacher.
Agolf didn’t know Lev Parnas but so many pictures, meals shared, etc. If I was going to bet, there are likely pictures here too with Rohrabacher.. let’s wait and see if this is the standard gaslighting Twittler operation.
Yes it exists, it is Dana Rohrabacher with Lev Parnas at the inaugural ball.
And Rohrabacher at the WH.
Amazing, how many coincidences there are with Agolf and Russian operatives........

There you go scurrying to all your suppositions and conspiracy theories.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And Twittler didn't send Giuliani to Ukraine to dig up dirt on the Bidens. Until he admitted it. And he didn't know Lev Parnas, although a dozen photos show he did. And then there was this meeting in the WH with Rohrabacher.
Agolf didn’t know Lev Parnas but so many pictures, meals shared, etc. If I was going to bet, there are likely pictures here too with Rohrabacher.. let’s wait and see if this is the standard gaslighting Twittler operation.
Yes it exists, it is Dana Rohrabacher with Lev Parnas at the inaugural ball.
And Rohrabacher at the WH.
Amazing, how many coincidences there are with Agolf and Russian operatives........

Originally Posted by detbuch

There you go scurrying to all your suppositions and conspiracy theories.

Show me a supposition, I see plenty of Twittler's typical obstruction.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Show me a supposition, I see plenty of Twittler's typical obstruction.

With Agolf, it’s impossible to discount an allegation of criminality that, against anyone else, would seem absurd.

Any proof of that, or are you just supposing so.

And to get Assange to deny Russian involvement. Yeah, sure.

Do you have proof that Rohrabacher was lying when he said that he only wanted “truthful” information from Assange, or are you supposing that he merely wanted Assange to deny Russian involvement.

To be fair, dementia plays havoc with one’s memory. This might account for why he can’t remember Dana Rohrabacher, Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman and a multitude of other criminal co-conspirators. Just sayin...

Do you have proof that Trump has dementia?

and he didn't know Lev Parnas, although a dozen photos show he did. And then there was this meeting in the WH with Rohrabacher.
Agolf didn’t know Lev Parnas but so many pictures, meals shared, etc. If I was going to bet, there are likely pictures here too with Rohrabacher.. let’s wait and see if this is the standard gaslighting Twittler operation.
Yes it exists, it is Dana Rohrabacher with Lev Parnas at the inaugural ball.
And Rohrabacher at the WH.

Do you have proof that Trump actually "knew" these people on a personal basis rather than just appearing with them in photos, and that he knew Rohrabacher more than barely as his press secretary said.

I see plenty of Twittler's typical obstruction.[QUOTE]

Are you saying, do you have proof, that all the above is actual obstruction, or just assuming, supposing so.

[Pete F.]

[QUOTE=detbuch;1186541]With Agolf, it’s impossible to discount an allegation of criminality that, against anyone else, would seem absurd.

Any proof of that, or are you just supposing so.

And to get Assange to deny Russian involvement. Yeah, sure.

Do you have proof that Rohrabacher was lying when he said that he only wanted “truthful” information from Assange, or are you supposing that he merely wanted Assange to deny Russian involvement.

To be fair, dementia plays havoc with one’s memory. This might account for why he can’t remember Dana Rohrabacher, Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman and a multitude of other criminal co-conspirators. Just sayin...

Do you have proof that Trump has dementia?

and he didn't know Lev Parnas, although a dozen photos show he did. And then there was this meeting in the WH with Rohrabacher.
Agolf didn’t know Lev Parnas but so many pictures, meals shared, etc. If I was going to bet, there are likely pictures here too with Rohrabacher.. let’s wait and see if this is the standard gaslighting Twittler operation.
Yes it exists, it is Dana Rohrabacher with Lev Parnas at the inaugural ball.
And Rohrabacher at the WH.

Do you have proof that Trump actually "knew" these people on a personal basis rather than just appearing with them in photos, and that he knew Rohrabacher more than barely as his press secretary said.

I see plenty of Twittler's typical obstruction.

Are you saying, do you have proof, that all the above is actual obstruction, or just assuming, supposing so.

Are you trying for a position on the Twittler Team?

There is plenty of evidence that Twittler coordinated with the Russians in the prior election, enough for thirty something indictments.

Does the fact that the Fifth no longer applies after you are pardoned have anything to do with why Manafort has not been pardoned and how long Stone will have to wait?

[Pete F.]

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You forgot this one

I just noticed that Hillary Clinton is not going to prison for 3 years and 4 months

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You forgot this one

I just noticed that Hillary Clinton is not going to prison for 3 years and 4 months

I didn't forget it. I didn't watch it.

[PaulS]

Maybe Scott is a Russian bot trying to get Trump reelected?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Maybe Scott is a Russian bot trying to get Trump reelected?
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I think he’s auditioning to be Trump Jr’s political advisor.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Maybe Scott is a Russian bot trying to get Trump reelected?
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he doesn't need my help...the democraps are doing a fine job...what a freekin' disaster

[Jim in CT]

WHat should scare you isn't the Russians, it's...drip...drip...drip...the convention is coming, and the likely resulting civil war within the democratic party.

[Got Stripers]

Same old same old like Trump willing to aid Russia indirectly to avoid (like anyone with a brain can’t see through that smoke screen) the appearance of impropriety. Intelligence head briefs those cleared to receive such briefing about Russia taking steps to help Trump again in 2020, Trump freaks out over it, fires him and puts in a dolt who is as qualified as I am to head that agency and it’s deja vu all over again.

[Pete F.]

Hey, do you know who ISN'T a convicted and sentenced felon?

It's a long list, but I was promised that ANY day now the "Deep State Coup Plotters" would be brought to justice...

Jim Comey.
John Brennan.
Andy McCabe.
Pete Strozk.
Lisa Page.

Sorry, Detbuch and QAnon.

[PaulS]

Drip - the Russians help Trump in the 2016 election
Drip - Trump ask the Russians to find HC's emails
Drip - The Russians search for HC's emails
Drip - Trump lies about his Russia investments/plans
Drip - Trump takes Russians into the oval office
Drip - Trump praises Putin constantly and takes his word over our intelligence agencies
Drip - Russians do all they can to help Trump get elected in 2020 election.
Drip - DNI head briefs congress about Russian interference, Trump has a tantrum and fires person giving briefing
Drip - SB Trumplicans moan, deflect and cry.
Drip - Republican party strangely quite on DNI briefing.

Still trying to figure out why the Russians are so intent on getting a Repub. elected.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Drip - the Russians help Trump in the 2016 election
Drip - Trump ask the Russians to find HC's emails
Drip - The Russians search for HC's emails
Drip - Trump lies about his Russia investments/plans
Drip - Trump takes Russians into the oval office
Drip - Trump praises Putin constantly and takes his word over our intelligence agencies
Drip - Russians do all they can to help Trump get elected in 2020 election.
Drip - DNI head briefs congress about Russian interference, Trump has a tantrum and fires person giving briefing
Drip - SB Trumplicans moan, deflect and cry.
Drip - Republican party strangely quite on DNI briefing.

Still trying to figure out why the Russians are so intent on getting a Repub. elected.

So they could give more arms to Ukraine, drill more oil and natural gas to keep the price down and hurt the Russian economy, continue to strengthen NATO, slow China's economy down, Boost the American economy, maintain sanctions on Russia and Iran, stretch Russia's resources as it further involves into the Middle East, create a space force to counter and beat China to it and the power to control the space grid, and a bunch of other small stuff which obviously can't compare to your or Pete's drips.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

So they could give more arms to Ukraine,
Arms don't help when the continued support of Russia (Donald Trump meets Russia's top diplomat at White House, etc.) in the Ukraine is rapidly eroding Zelensky's popular support. I will be surprised if he lasts till our election.
drill more oil and natural gas to keep the price down and hurt the Russian economy,
Rosstat said growth in the natural resources industries, including the production of gas and gas condensate — which jumped by more than 10% — was the biggest contributor to growth over the year.
Saudi Arabia and Russia appear to be heading toward the fourth consecutive year of OPEC+ collaboration when producers gather in early March. A continuation of the output cuts agreement with a possible deepening of agreed reductions is widely anticipated.
Russian consumer demand rises in January on growing real income levels.
continue to strengthen NATO,
His brilliant move to let the Turks into Syria just might be the end of NATO as we know it. Things are breaking there.
slow China's economy down,
Morgan Stanley says China’s first-quarter growth could fall as low as 3.5% due to coronavirus, still 1% better than ours. He'll probably take credit for Coronavirus
Boost the American economy,
US GDP growth is the same as it has been for the last 10 years, and he has the deficit up to a Trillion. Just like his other bankruptcies
maintain sanctions on Russia and Iran

What happened to the sanctions on Deripaska and the other oligarchs?
U.S. President Donald Trump ordered Attorney General William Barr to drop charges against state-run Halkbank, now accused of seeking to circumvent U.S. sanctions on Iran, to deal with persistent Turkish pressure
And that stuff is just the tip of that particular iceberg

, stretch Russia's resources as it further involves into the Middle East, create a space force to counter and beat China to it and the power to control the space grid, and a bunch of other small stuff which obviously can't compare to your or Pete's drips.

Just keep believing the conman

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Originally Posted by detbuch
So they could give more arms to Ukraine,
Arms don't help when the continued support of Russia (Donald Trump meets Russia's top diplomat at White House, etc.) in the Ukraine is rapidly eroding Zelensky's popular support. I will be surprised if he lasts till our election.

Well, if arms don't help, we shouldn't be upset about a delay in sending them. I guess they help our economy when Ukraine pays for them. Damn that Trump--he should stop meeting Russian diplomats. We would be much safer and world peace would be more greatly advanced if he would stop talking with the Russians.

drill more oil and natural gas to keep the price down and hurt the Russian economy,

Rosstat said growth in the natural resources industries, including the production of gas and gas condensate — which jumped by more than 10% — was the biggest contributor to growth over the year.
Saudi Arabia and Russia appear to be heading toward the fourth consecutive year of OPEC+ collaboration when producers gather in early March. A continuation of the output cuts agreement with a possible deepening of agreed reductions is widely anticipated.
Russian consumer demand rises in January on growing real income levels.


Like I said, our increased production keeps the price down. I would suppose other oil producing nations would want to fight that by decreasing production. Either way, it hurts their economy.

continue to strengthen NATO,

His brilliant move to let the Turks into Syria just might be the end of NATO as we know it. Things are breaking there.


His insistence that Europe's countries pay more into NATO strengthens it and sends the message that Europe must more greatly support NATO. That, in effect, ended NATO as we knew it. So what did NATO do to stop Turkey?

slow China's economy down,

Morgan Stanley says China’s first-quarter growth could fall as low as 3.5% due to coronavirus, still 1% better than ours. He'll probably take credit for Coronavirus


It used to be more than 1% better than ours. And the trade war has led to a weakening growth in China's economy. And if Coronavirus expands, especially here, you will blame Trump. If it doesn't, no way you'll give Trump any credit.

Boost the American economy,

US GDP growth is the same as it has been for the last 10 years, and he has the deficit up to a Trillion. Just like his other bankruptcies


GDP growth remaining the same in a wealthier economy means an actual rise in growth. Same rate, but larger numbers.

maintain sanctions on Russia and Iran

What happened to the sanctions on Deripaska and the other oligarchs?

Congress made that decision. And it was heavily influenced by our beloved Europeans--Ambassadors from Austria, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Sweden, the U.K. and the E.U. sent a letter to Democratic House Committee Chairman Eliot Engel lobbying for the end of sanctions on

U.S. President Donald Trump ordered Attorney General William Barr to drop charges against state-run Halkbank, now accused of seeking to circumvent U.S. sanctions on Iran, to deal with persistent Turkish pressure

Halbank is Turkish, not Russian. According to the Hill: "Justice Department spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said The New York Times report “grossly mischaracterizes” the attorney general’s conversations with Bolton and that Barr never had any discussions of “personal favors” or “undue influence,” nor did he think the president’s communications with foreign leaders were “improper.”

, stretch Russia's resources as it further involves into the Middle East, create a space force to counter and beat China to it and the power to control the space grid, and a bunch of other small stuff which obviously can't compare to your or Pete's drips.


Just keep believing the conman

Keep trying to make everything Trump does, or says, or thinks, or wants, or implies, or suggests, or criticizes, or makes sarcastic fun of, or supports, or is in contact with, or breathes, a destruction of America, of the Constitution, evil, wrong . . . and that anything or anyone that opposes him, no matter how idiotic, dingbat, socialist, corrupt, will actually save us if only we all would embrace them rather than giving Trump even a slight nod of credit, or ability . . . and keep telling us that we are no better off now than under Obama, actually worse off and about to collapse into some pit of political and economic horror even though Trump is just living off of Obama policies.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Keep trying to make everything Trump does, or says, or thinks, or wants, or implies, or suggests, or criticizes, or makes sarcastic fun of, or supports, or is in contact with, or breathes, a destruction of America, of the Constitution, evil, wrong . . . and that anything or anyone that opposes him, no matter how idiotic, dingbat, socialist, corrupt, will actually save us if only we all would embrace them rather than giving Trump even a slight nod of credit, or ability . . . and keep telling us that we are no better off now than under Obama, actually worse off and about to collapse into some pit of political and economic horror even though Trump is just living off of Obama policies.

You ought to loosen that MAGA hat, it's cutting off the circulation to your brain. Twittler is losing it.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You ought to loosen that MAGA hat, it's cutting off the circulation to your brain. Twittler is losing it.

I showed you the courtesy to actually respond to your post, point by point, which I have done many times. You, here, as you have done many times, respond with nonsense.

I don't have a MAGA hat. The circulation to my brain is just fine. I am not afraid to say "Trump." That is not a taboo name that would cause me harm if I spoke it. I don't know about "Twittler" losing it, nor what it is that he is supposed to be losing.

President Trump has had a lot of wins. He doesn't appear to me to be more irrational than Bernie Sanders, or Joe Biden, or E. Warren, et. al. If I were to compare what Trump has accomplished to what you are accomplishing by your incessant, repetitious, ranting, it would appear to me that you would be the loser, not him.

It has occurred to me that, because of your method of idiotic or no response, your inability to have a rational discussion, any attempt to which you respond by merely extending your diatribe, that you are not worth talking with.

Actually, your worth ignoring. Memo to self. Will do.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I showed you the courtesy to actually respond to your post, point by point, which I have done many times. You, here, as you have done many times, respond with nonsense.

I don't have a MAGA hat. The circulation to my brain is just fine. I am not afraid to say "Trump." That is not a taboo name that would cause me harm if I spoke it. I don't know about "Twittler" losing it, nor what it is that he is supposed to be losing.

President Trump has had a lot of wins. He doesn't appear to me to be more irrational than Bernie Sanders, or Joe Biden, or E. Warren, et. al. If I were to compare what Trump has accomplished to what you are accomplishing by your incessant, repetitious, ranting, it would appear to me that you would be the loser, not him.

It has occurred to me that, because of your method of idiotic or no response, your inability to have a rational discussion, any attempt to which you respond by merely extending your diatribe, that you are not worth talking with.

Actually, your worth ignoring. Memo to self. Will do.

I answered everyone of your points that were worth answering with a defendable answer.
You deflected with baloney and weasel words each of my points.

As far as praise of Twittler or Trump goes, I think Shakespeare called that out long ago: “He that loves to be flattered is worthy o’ the flatterer.”

[detbuch]

Drip . . . drip . . . drip from Bongino. He's really good as well as charismatic and entertaining. Highly recommend his daily episodes to get an alternative view from someone with sources that have proven accurate re the Russia hoax, etc. Not for wdmso, or Striper, or Spence, but for those who want a wider range of information than the MSM which so often has gotten it wrong--almost as if they have an agenda . . . nah . . . can't be . . .

[Pete F.]

Really looking forward to a Trump/Sanders general election which is decided by who gets the coveted Vladimir Putin endorsement!!
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