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Old 11-19-2019, 04:49 PM   #451
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The facts so far establish that Floridaman used his office to try and secure his own power in 2020.

He did this in a way that undermined the written national security policy of the United States, which he signed, as well as the interests of the American people.

There is no alternative version of events offered by Trumplicans.

The only Trumplican argument left is: You can’t make us care what Floridaman did and he can do whatever he wants as President.

If “we don't care” is an entire political party’s view of a sitting President asking a foreign power to interfere in our elections, then something has gone very, very wrong.

And the problem does not stop with Floridaman.

Will the next election be decided by whomever receives the best dirt on their opponent by saying "If you're listening, give me some dirt on my opponent and you will be very well rewarded.
Russia, I'll give you Ukraine and Finland
China, you'll get Taiwan
Israel, we already gave you the West Bank, produce already.

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Donald Trump

"Was there a quid pro quo?.....The answer is yes"
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"Everyone was in the loop.....It was no secret."
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:50 PM   #452
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nobody cares, even the networks are bailing on this joke
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Old 11-19-2019, 06:45 PM   #453
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nobody cares, even the networks are bailing on this joke
If you say so
Floridaman certainly hopes that is true
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"I would like you to do us a favor though"
Donald Trump

"Was there a quid pro quo?.....The answer is yes"
Ambassador Gordon Sondland

"Get over it"
Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney

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Old 11-19-2019, 06:54 PM   #454
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There is no reason to do so. I hope you are joking.
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OMG Devin Nunes has done nothing but cry on national television, you guys should be embarrassed

and of course Trumpists to Alexander Vindman: ‘#^&#^&#^&#^& You for Your Service’
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:15 PM   #455
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and of course Trumpists to Alexander Vindman: ‘#^&#^&#^&#^& You for Your Service’
so are you suggesting that if someone serves in the military they can never be questioned for the rest of their life?
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:36 PM   #456
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so are you suggesting that if someone serves in the military they can never be questions for the rest of their life?
All Vindman did was tell the truth
For that he was called a “nevertrumper, it was intimated that he had dual loyalties and that he did not do his job
Perhaps you could explain what he did that was not done correctly or went outside the chain of command
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Old 11-19-2019, 08:24 PM   #457
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Nunes closing statements
Another embarrassment. For a member of congress
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Old 11-19-2019, 08:27 PM   #458
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so are you suggesting that if someone serves in the military they can never be questioned for the rest of their life?
Seems you dont understand the difference bettween a question and accusation.. all with out evidence mind you
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:25 PM   #459
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CASTRO: Putting President Trump aside, do you believe that it is proper for any president…to ask a foreign govt. to investigate a U.S. citizen, and specifically a U.S. citizen that could be a political rival?

VOLKER: I don't believe it is appropriate

MORRISON: I agree
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:47 PM   #460
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Another day, more firsthand evidence, more amending testimony, more fact witnesses cooreberating the bribery scandal. Nunes looks like a fool. All they can do it ask questions the witnesses don’t have visibility to and smear honest civil servants and patriots.

It’s sickening.
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Old 11-19-2019, 11:10 PM   #461
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CASTRO: Putting President Trump aside, do you believe that it is proper for any president…to ask a foreign govt. to investigate a U.S. citizen, and specifically a U.S. citizen that could be a political rival?

VOLKER: I don't believe it is appropriate

MORRISON: I agree
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Phew . . . good thing there were more questions and answers than that.
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Old 11-19-2019, 11:11 PM   #462
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Another day, more firsthand evidence, more amending testimony, more fact witnesses cooreberating the bribery scandal. Nunes looks like a fool. All they can do it ask questions the witnesses don’t have visibility to and smear honest civil servants and patriots.

It’s sickening.
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I agree. The whole thing is sickening.
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Old 11-19-2019, 11:45 PM   #463
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Funny watching some of these fleabags grasping at fame.
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:47 AM   #464
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it's pretty obvious who ran to the "whistleblower"

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Old 11-20-2019, 07:51 AM   #465
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It’s the whistleblower’s fault?
Silly boy
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:01 AM   #466
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Absolutely perfect.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:10 AM   #467
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Absolutely Perfect

"I would like you to do us a favor though"
Donald Trump

"Was there a quid pro quo?.....The answer is yes"
Ambassador Gordon Sondland

"Get over it"
Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney

"Everyone was in the loop.....It was no secret."
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:14 AM   #468
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After Sondland's opening statement Nunes was seen rushing into the mens room to change his shorts and probably throw up.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:36 AM   #469
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Your excitement guarantees a large helping.🎯🍔
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:47 AM   #470
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Your excitement guarantees a large helping.🎯🍔
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Really wish this was a clip

https://twitter.com/i/status/1197184057249062915

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"Was there a quid pro quo?.....The answer is yes"
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:27 PM   #471
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Adam Schiff and his team have run the most effective Congressional probe in history.

After being informed of the WB complaint on Sep 9, in a little over two months they have broken WH obstruction, got documents & testimony, flipped reluctant witnesses, and revealed the entire plot.

Seriously impressive.

Here's what Trump is looking at

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Old 11-21-2019, 01:32 PM   #472
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Can anyone explain to me Why republicans keep bringing up the Javelin anti tank weapon system ..

I am trying to understand what it has to do with the phone call other to just say see they got them whats the issue ???

I am sure a white house visit for ukraine would have been far less expensive for American Tax payers and 100% more beneficial to ukraine both domestically and regionally...

I am sure Trump put as much thought into this as he did syria
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Old 11-21-2019, 01:42 PM   #473
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They have nothing else
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Lev Parnas Helped Rep. Devin Nunes' Investigations
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:11 PM   #475
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which explains why republicans hold zero elected offices. we have nothing. we don’t have the white house, the senate, and
majority of governorships. Nope. We have nothing.
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:53 PM   #476
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Hill nailed it today, he will be impeached in the house and Mitch will have a OMG we have to do it trial and then we get to watch Trump show us his true colors again in the 2020 campaign and those on the fence will likely say that’s enough of that.
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Hill nailed it today, he will be impeached in the house and Mitch will have a OMG we have to do it trial and then we get to watch Trump show us his true colors again in the 2020 campaign and those on the fence will likely say that’s enough of that.
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that could well happen. or, if the democratic nominee is a marxist jerk and the economy is still roaring, people on the fence may flock to trump. there’s a political risk to all this for the democrats. no way of knowing how this will play in FL, NC, OH, WI. I don’t think Harris, Warren, Sanders, or Buttigieg has a prayer against Trump, but that's a guess on my part, and unlike democratic witnesses, i can differentiate between my opinions and fact.
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As with what's happening with Suburban moms I think finally others will say they're tired of this vile, lying, classless grifter and maybe some of their class will come out and they'll vote for someone else.
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As with what's happening with Suburban moms I think finally others will say they're tired of this vile, lying, classless grifter and maybe some of their class will come out and they'll vote for someone else.
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very good chance that’s exactly what happens. who knows.

do you think that many of the democratic candidates are potentially too extremely liberal
for those suburbanites in middle
america? and what about the economy? the libs here will
do anything to avoid admitting how well the economy is doing ( pete thinks it’s tanking), but that has to help him a little.

a fascinating conflict of
forces. trumps divisiveness and
vulgarity work against him. working for him, are the economy and the freak show of candidates to oppose him, outside of biden.
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Just saw Congresswoman Elise Stefanik while on fox's Hannity show AKA Trump TV ask viewers for money for Her re - election campaign


never seen such a thing. clearly unethical ting from FOX or the congress women
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