Why Elizabeth Warren Matters

[Jim in CT]

i actually agree with Lie-awathas economic
message, that maybe letting corporations and banks do almost anything to improve the bottom line, might
not be the best way. is it in the national best interests to make it so easy for a
large company to ship huge numbers of jobs to china, to improve the bottom line? it’s worth having the conversation. Warren is a disgusting, unprincipled liar, but she strikes a chord with me on this one issue. i wish companies could be a little
more economically patriotic. not to the point of bankrupting themselves, but just a little bit.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i actually agree with Lie-awathas economic
message, that maybe letting corporations and banks do almost anything to improve the bottom line, might
not be the best way. is it in the national best interests to make it so easy for a
large company to ship huge numbers of jobs to china, to improve the bottom line? it’s worth having the conversation. Warren is a disgusting, unprincipled liar, but she strikes a chord with me on this one issue. i wish companies could be a little
more economically patriotic. not to the point of bankrupting themselves, but just a little bit.
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I think I need some smelling salts. I just fainted
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think I need some smelling salts. I just fainted
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why? i’m not close to a thoughtless drone, i’m
i’m favor of gay marriage, i’m opposed
to the death penalty, i’m all
about fairness and wanting everyone to thrive.

i’m. it saying i want laws
banning companies
from pursuing efficiencies, but maybe we’ve
gone too far. when i
see how many hours people
work, how few families have someone staying home with little
kids, how much harder it is to
be middle class in manufacturing, I get sad. it’s worth a conversation in my opinion.

that said, she’s
bonkers and would
be a horrible president.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i wish companies could be a little
more economically patriotic. not to the point of bankrupting themselves, but just a little bit.
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Economic patriotism. That sounds like a notion which could lead a free market down the rabbit hole of fascism/socialism/communism/totalitarianism.

Well, I suppose since we're halfway there, might as well finish the trip.

But shouldn't it be the other way around? I mean, shouldn't government power in a presumably free society be used to protect its presumably free market rather than to coerce it into allegiance to its regulatory, anti-competitive control? Shouldn't patriotism in a free society be to the people and their institutions rather than to the central government?

How about the government not regulating and taxing business to the point it becomes more than just a little bit onerous vis a vis opportunities elsewhere? Relatively higher costs can be more attractive in a free and friendly environment than lower costs in a communist regime with unlimited power to demand how, when, where, and under what conditions, including control of who actually runs the business along with access to its intellectual and technical property.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Economic patriotism. That sounds like a notion which could lead a free market down the rabbit hole of fascism/socialism/communism/totalitarianism.

Well, I suppose since we're halfway there, might as well finish the trip.

But shouldn't it be the other way around? I mean, shouldn't government power in a presumably free society be used to protect its presumably free market rather than to coerce it into allegiance to its regulatory, anti-competitive control? Shouldn't patriotism in a free society be to the people and their institutions rather than to the central government?


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it might lead to socialism, if you assume that everything ends up
at one extreme or
the other. I see just
about everything, ending up between the two extremes.
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